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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? 11:16 - Mar 23 with 1911 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

I always assumed it was a tiny bit of the disease, which your body can easily overcome and then becomes immune to.

But reading the leaflet under "What COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca contains" it has this intriguing line:

"Recombinant, replication-deficient chimpanzee adenovirus vector encoding the SARS-CoV-2 Spike glycoprotein. Produced in genetically modified human embryonic kidney cells."

I'm not a scientist, but am I part chimp now?

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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 11:18 - Mar 23 with 1880 viewshype313

Always have been.

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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 11:20 - Mar 23 with 1875 viewsCotty

"I'm not a scientist"

Thanks for clarifying
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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 11:22 - Mar 23 with 1865 viewsfooters

Great band.


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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 11:24 - Mar 23 with 1851 viewshomer_123

Bless.

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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 11:30 - Mar 23 with 1817 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 11:24 - Mar 23 by homer_123

Bless.


I feel I might need to point out (again) that this isn't an entirely serious thread!

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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 11:33 - Mar 23 with 1810 viewsGuthrum

You were part chimp already.

Or, at least, you have a lot of DNA from our Most Recent Common Ancestor. Thus they are quite useful for building a vaccine intended for humans.

Plus vaccines like that are nowadays more specifically engineered to target particular aspects of the virus or its behaviour - in this case the "spikes" which allow it to attach to human cells.

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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 11:41 - Mar 23 with 1774 viewsCotty

If you're actually interested, they have genetically engineered an existing chimp virus to express (i.e. make) the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which causes Covid. It's also been engineered so that the chimp virus does not replicate itself (that's the replication-deficient bit).

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines work in a different way, in that they deliver mRNA straight to your cells, which then express the spike protein. This is what mRNA does, it's just a molecule encoded to make a particular protein.

So both methods are just a delivery method for replicating a large amount of spike protein in your body. Your body then recognises a (synthetic) "attack" and creates antibodies which attach to the spike proteins and flag them for destruction by the immune cells in your body. And then if you ever come in contact with the real deal, your immune system "remembers" the spike protein and attacks the virus before it can take hold.

So no SARS-CoV-2 virus goes anywhere near the vaccines. Nor does any chimp DNA.

PS Clearer and more accurate descriptions undoubtedly exist elsewhere.
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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 11:48 - Mar 23 with 1742 viewsKeno

What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 11:41 - Mar 23 by Cotty

If you're actually interested, they have genetically engineered an existing chimp virus to express (i.e. make) the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which causes Covid. It's also been engineered so that the chimp virus does not replicate itself (that's the replication-deficient bit).

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines work in a different way, in that they deliver mRNA straight to your cells, which then express the spike protein. This is what mRNA does, it's just a molecule encoded to make a particular protein.

So both methods are just a delivery method for replicating a large amount of spike protein in your body. Your body then recognises a (synthetic) "attack" and creates antibodies which attach to the spike proteins and flag them for destruction by the immune cells in your body. And then if you ever come in contact with the real deal, your immune system "remembers" the spike protein and attacks the virus before it can take hold.

So no SARS-CoV-2 virus goes anywhere near the vaccines. Nor does any chimp DNA.

PS Clearer and more accurate descriptions undoubtedly exist elsewhere.


so does this explain my sudden craving for bananas since I have my jab?

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Coincidence that this thread is next to this one? on 11:51 - Mar 23 with 1729 viewsSwansea_Blue

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I think not *taps side of nose in a David Icke manner*

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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 11:57 - Mar 23 with 1707 viewsmonytowbray

What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 11:22 - Mar 23 by footers

Great band.



Word.

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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 12:00 - Mar 23 with 1692 viewsGlasgowBlue

Your new username on here is Cornelius.

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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 12:04 - Mar 23 with 1671 viewsfooters

What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 11:57 - Mar 23 by monytowbray

Word.


Was the last band I saw I think. In bloody 2019!

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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 12:52 - Mar 23 with 1586 viewsBasuco

I simplistic terms there are two types of vaccine, dead and live, a live vaccine is given once, a dead vaccine has to be repeated at regular intervals. Covid is a dead vaccine and it just "tells the body" to look out for covid and attack it immediately. As the covid vaccine can and is given to people with no, or compromised immune system it definitely does not give you a tiny bit of the virus.
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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 12:55 - Mar 23 with 1575 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Its a mix of Stilton and Mature Cheddar. It's why the French aren't keen on it.

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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 13:04 - Mar 23 with 1559 viewsBasuco

COVID-19 vaccines help our bodies develop immunity to the virus that causes COVID-19 without us having to get the illness. Different types of vaccines work in different ways to offer protection. But with all types of vaccines, the body is left with a supply of “memory” T-lymphocytes as well as B-lymphocytes that will remember how to fight that virus in the future.

Currently, there are three main types of COVID-19 vaccines that are authorized and recommended, or undergoing large-scale (Phase 3) clinical trials in the United States. Below is a description of how each type of vaccine prompts our bodies to recognize and protect us from the virus that causes COVID-19. None of these vaccines can give you COVID-19.

mRNA vaccines contain material from the virus that causes COVID-19 that gives our cells instructions for how to make a harmless protein that is unique to the virus. After our cells make copies of the protein, they destroy the genetic material from the vaccine. Our bodies recognize that the protein should not be there and build T-lymphocytes and B-lymphocytes that will remember how to fight the virus that causes COVID-19 if we are infected in the future.
Protein subunit vaccines include harmless pieces (proteins) of the virus that causes COVID-19 instead of the entire germ. Once vaccinated, our bodies recognize that the protein should not be there and build T-lymphocytes and antibodies that will remember how to fight the virus that causes COVID-19 if we are infected in the future.
Vector vaccines contain a modified version of a different virus than the one that causes COVID-19. Inside the shell of the modified virus, there is material from the virus that causes COVID-19. This is called a “viral vector.” Once the viral vector is inside our cells, the genetic material gives cells instructions to make a protein that is unique to the virus that causes COVID-19. Using these instructions, our cells make copies of the protein. This prompts our bodies to build T-lymphocytes and B-lymphocytes that will remember how to fight that virus if we are infected in the future.
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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 13:10 - Mar 23 with 1538 viewsNthQldITFC

What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 12:55 - Mar 23 by Cheltenham_Blue

Its a mix of Stilton and Mature Cheddar. It's why the French aren't keen on it.


I thought that was washing?

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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 13:21 - Mar 23 with 1509 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 11:41 - Mar 23 by Cotty

If you're actually interested, they have genetically engineered an existing chimp virus to express (i.e. make) the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which causes Covid. It's also been engineered so that the chimp virus does not replicate itself (that's the replication-deficient bit).

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines work in a different way, in that they deliver mRNA straight to your cells, which then express the spike protein. This is what mRNA does, it's just a molecule encoded to make a particular protein.

So both methods are just a delivery method for replicating a large amount of spike protein in your body. Your body then recognises a (synthetic) "attack" and creates antibodies which attach to the spike proteins and flag them for destruction by the immune cells in your body. And then if you ever come in contact with the real deal, your immune system "remembers" the spike protein and attacks the virus before it can take hold.

So no SARS-CoV-2 virus goes anywhere near the vaccines. Nor does any chimp DNA.

PS Clearer and more accurate descriptions undoubtedly exist elsewhere.


That's interesting actually, thanks Cottsmeister.

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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 13:28 - Mar 23 with 1480 viewsfactual_blue

It's mainly liquefied battenberg, and therefore best avoided.

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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 13:30 - Mar 23 with 1475 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 13:28 - Mar 23 by factual_blue

It's mainly liquefied battenberg, and therefore best avoided.


Mmmm. Imagine a battenberg milkshake. That would be amazing!

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What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 13:49 - Mar 23 with 1444 viewsfactual_blue

What's actually in these Covid vaccines? on 13:30 - Mar 23 by The_Flashing_Smile

Mmmm. Imagine a battenberg milkshake. That would be amazing!


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