| Genuine question …. 15:30 - Nov 21 with 6699 views | backwaywhen |
Is Paul Cook making us a bang average side ? When the squad we have assembled should be doing much better , for me he still lacks the extra ingredient needed at all levels …. Tactical nouse !
Let’s be honest it is certainly looking that way . |  | | |  |
| Genuine question …. on 15:34 - Nov 21 with 3070 views | Illinoisblue |
Another question, what is Peter Reid’s contribution? Just meet up with Cook and the lads for a few drinks at northern away games? |  |
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| Genuine question …. on 15:37 - Nov 21 with 3051 views | gtsb1966 |
The coaching staff recruitment was so poor. That is Cooks biggest mistake by a country mile. |  | | |
| Genuine question …. on 16:05 - Nov 21 with 2979 views | Bobbychase |
No.
The entertainment level is light years ahead of the past four/five seasons. The atmosphere around the club is a complete about-face from the Hurst and Lambert eras (and the end of the McCarthy era TBH).
Almost all the summer signings have been a success, even the ones like Aluko that puzzled us all. The keepers have been dodgy until Walton and Barrie isn't getting a look-in but the impact of players like Burns, Chaplin, Bonne, Morsey, Edmundson etc show Cook has an eye for a transfer.
Add in the fact we are about to have three 25,000+ crowds in a row for the first time in years and will probably invest again in January, makes me question why there is any negativity at the moment. |  |
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| Genuine question …. on 16:12 - Nov 21 with 2944 views | gtsb1966 |
| Genuine question …. on 16:05 - Nov 21 by Bobbychase |
No.
The entertainment level is light years ahead of the past four/five seasons. The atmosphere around the club is a complete about-face from the Hurst and Lambert eras (and the end of the McCarthy era TBH).
Almost all the summer signings have been a success, even the ones like Aluko that puzzled us all. The keepers have been dodgy until Walton and Barrie isn't getting a look-in but the impact of players like Burns, Chaplin, Bonne, Morsey, Edmundson etc show Cook has an eye for a transfer.
Add in the fact we are about to have three 25,000+ crowds in a row for the first time in years and will probably invest again in January, makes me question why there is any negativity at the moment. |
"Add in the fact we are about to have three 25,000+ crowds in a row for the first time in years and will probably invest again in January, makes me question why there is any negativity at the moment"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/table [Post edited 21 Nov 2021 16:13]
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| Genuine question …. on 16:14 - Nov 21 with 2932 views | homer_123 |
| Genuine question …. on 16:05 - Nov 21 by Bobbychase |
No.
The entertainment level is light years ahead of the past four/five seasons. The atmosphere around the club is a complete about-face from the Hurst and Lambert eras (and the end of the McCarthy era TBH).
Almost all the summer signings have been a success, even the ones like Aluko that puzzled us all. The keepers have been dodgy until Walton and Barrie isn't getting a look-in but the impact of players like Burns, Chaplin, Bonne, Morsey, Edmundson etc show Cook has an eye for a transfer.
Add in the fact we are about to have three 25,000+ crowds in a row for the first time in years and will probably invest again in January, makes me question why there is any negativity at the moment. |
Wouldn't it be great to get three wins in a row under Cook? [Post edited 21 Nov 2021 16:14]
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| Genuine question …. on 16:15 - Nov 21 with 2927 views | Bobbychase |
| Genuine question …. on 16:12 - Nov 21 by gtsb1966 |
"Add in the fact we are about to have three 25,000+ crowds in a row for the first time in years and will probably invest again in January, makes me question why there is any negativity at the moment"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/table [Post edited 21 Nov 2021 16:13]
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Our start is the problem, and perhaps we should have expected that with such an overhaul in the summer.
But the implication in the OP question is that Paul Cook has somehow come in and turned a load of good players crap.
He identified these players as transfer targets. They are his signings. | |
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| Genuine question …. on 16:17 - Nov 21 with 2911 views | Bobbychase |
| Genuine question …. on 15:34 - Nov 21 by Illinoisblue |
Another question, what is Peter Reid’s contribution? Just meet up with Cook and the lads for a few drinks at northern away games? |
He poses with fans after games for pics. After a slow start he looks like he's getting quite good at it. | |
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| Genuine question …. on 16:18 - Nov 21 with 2904 views | gtsb1966 |
| Genuine question …. on 16:15 - Nov 21 by Bobbychase |
Our start is the problem, and perhaps we should have expected that with such an overhaul in the summer.
But the implication in the OP question is that Paul Cook has somehow come in and turned a load of good players crap.
He identified these players as transfer targets. They are his signings. |
Cook is failing here though. There is no getting away from that unfortunately. | | | |
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| Genuine question …. on 16:19 - Nov 21 with 2896 views | homer_123 |
| Genuine question …. on 16:15 - Nov 21 by Bobbychase |
Our start is the problem, and perhaps we should have expected that with such an overhaul in the summer.
But the implication in the OP question is that Paul Cook has somehow come in and turned a load of good players crap.
He identified these players as transfer targets. They are his signings. |
They are indeed Bobs.
I posted yesterday as some were saying we need more players or the squad is unbalanced. Utter poppycock. This squad is unreal for L1 - just bonkers. Look at the players that 'didn't' start yesterdays match - even that lot would be a very decent L1 squad.
It's true to say that Cook isn't getting the most out of them, for whatever reason, though. | |
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| Genuine question …. on 16:19 - Nov 21 with 2897 views | Bobbychase |
| Genuine question …. on 16:18 - Nov 21 by gtsb1966 |
Cook is failing here though. There is no getting away from that unfortunately. |
I beg to differ. And I expect a lot of other Town fans would as well.
But the OP asked a genuine question and it deserved a genuine answer. | |
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| Genuine question …. on 16:21 - Nov 21 with 2878 views | Bobbychase |
| Genuine question …. on 16:19 - Nov 21 by homer_123 |
They are indeed Bobs.
I posted yesterday as some were saying we need more players or the squad is unbalanced. Utter poppycock. This squad is unreal for L1 - just bonkers. Look at the players that 'didn't' start yesterdays match - even that lot would be a very decent L1 squad.
It's true to say that Cook isn't getting the most out of them, for whatever reason, though. |
It always comes back to how much you blame the coach and his backroom staff. Did Cook tell Celina to miss two sitters yesterday? Did he tell players to make bad passes in the final third? I'd agree we have unreal players for this level, but some of them - Celina and Edwards in particular - need to develop an end product fairly sharpish. Celina had a flurry of goals v Fleetwood and Wycombe but he is tending to drift in games. | |
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| Genuine question …. on 16:56 - Nov 21 with 2760 views | LeoMuff |
| Genuine question …. on 15:37 - Nov 21 by gtsb1966 |
The coaching staff recruitment was so poor. That is Cooks biggest mistake by a country mile. |
We have no idea how good or bad the coaches are. |  |
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| Genuine question …. on 17:00 - Nov 21 with 2747 views | TheBlueGnu |
| Genuine question …. on 16:05 - Nov 21 by Bobbychase |
No.
The entertainment level is light years ahead of the past four/five seasons. The atmosphere around the club is a complete about-face from the Hurst and Lambert eras (and the end of the McCarthy era TBH).
Almost all the summer signings have been a success, even the ones like Aluko that puzzled us all. The keepers have been dodgy until Walton and Barrie isn't getting a look-in but the impact of players like Burns, Chaplin, Bonne, Morsey, Edmundson etc show Cook has an eye for a transfer.
Add in the fact we are about to have three 25,000+ crowds in a row for the first time in years and will probably invest again in January, makes me question why there is any negativity at the moment. |
eeer - because despite spending loads of cash, we are 10th and only just ahead of Cheltenham in the league who have a tiny budget. | |
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| Genuine question …. on 17:05 - Nov 21 with 2732 views | gtsb1966 |
| Genuine question …. on 16:56 - Nov 21 by LeoMuff |
We have no idea how good or bad the coaches are. |
Really. Coaches don't just coach , they also advise the manager during games. Ours are not just inexperienced but also Cooks mates, and it ain't working. [Post edited 21 Nov 2021 17:09]
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| Genuine question …. on 17:06 - Nov 21 with 2730 views | backwaywhen |
| Genuine question …. on 16:15 - Nov 21 by Bobbychase |
Our start is the problem, and perhaps we should have expected that with such an overhaul in the summer.
But the implication in the OP question is that Paul Cook has somehow come in and turned a load of good players crap.
He identified these players as transfer targets. They are his signings. |
That is not what I said in OP , I asked the the question is he making this excellent squad bang average , yes the football is so much better and it’s a joy to go to games again , but for me something is missing ….. is it the jigsaw fitting together correctly on the pitch or indeed the nouse to finish the jigsaw as the game runs it’s cause . | | | |
| Genuine question …. on 17:09 - Nov 21 with 2716 views | 44_not_out |
| Genuine question …. on 16:05 - Nov 21 by Bobbychase |
No.
The entertainment level is light years ahead of the past four/five seasons. The atmosphere around the club is a complete about-face from the Hurst and Lambert eras (and the end of the McCarthy era TBH).
Almost all the summer signings have been a success, even the ones like Aluko that puzzled us all. The keepers have been dodgy until Walton and Barrie isn't getting a look-in but the impact of players like Burns, Chaplin, Bonne, Morsey, Edmundson etc show Cook has an eye for a transfer.
Add in the fact we are about to have three 25,000+ crowds in a row for the first time in years and will probably invest again in January, makes me question why there is any negativity at the moment. |
Ah, the ol’ ‘the football’s better’
As someone said, be great to win a few and be more consistent….
‘The signings have all been a success….’. I reserve judgement on that. For example, I’d love to compare Jay Tabb’s goals/assists record in his first 13 games with Kyle Edwards. BTW Jay Tabb was doing it in the championship.
Looking at the two squads, we’ve swapped a lot of average with some more average and a few a bit better than average.
I won’t deny its more entertaining, but I’d much prefer a few dull 1-0 wins. But hey, it seems the world has changed and now many prefer to be entertained as opposed to having a team with a winning mentality | | | |
| Genuine question …. on 17:11 - Nov 21 with 2705 views | BlueBadger |
On the evidence we have, it would appear that he's achieved it. |  |
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| Genuine question …. on 17:33 - Nov 21 with 2668 views | Churchman |
| Genuine question …. on 16:56 - Nov 21 by LeoMuff |
We have no idea how good or bad the coaches are. |
Every time we lose, the topic of coaches is brought up. This is the only manager at this club ever that I can recall the appointment of coaches being queried.
Inexperience? Gary Roberts is 37 Jeffers 40. The minimum time they’ve been in the professional game between them is 47 years, assuming they started at 15. If they don’t know the game now, they never will. Interestingly, Robson was 36 when he came to Ipswich as manager.
‘Cook’s mates’ I hear. Well he’s hardly likely to appoint somebody he doesn’t get on with any more than anyone else would in any walk of life. Nobody queried Dale Roberts who was first and foremost Burley’s mate. Nor Royle’s or Lyall’s.
Nobody was interested because the buck stops with the manager and most important, your point - we have no idea how good or bad the coaches are or what they do other than distribute the bibs. |  | | |
| Genuine question …. on 17:44 - Nov 21 with 2648 views | gtsb1966 |
| Genuine question …. on 16:19 - Nov 21 by Bobbychase |
I beg to differ. And I expect a lot of other Town fans would as well.
But the OP asked a genuine question and it deserved a genuine answer. |
Could you tell me where we are winning. | | | |
| Genuine question …. on 17:44 - Nov 21 with 2644 views | backwaywhen |
| Genuine question …. on 17:33 - Nov 21 by Churchman |
Every time we lose, the topic of coaches is brought up. This is the only manager at this club ever that I can recall the appointment of coaches being queried.
Inexperience? Gary Roberts is 37 Jeffers 40. The minimum time they’ve been in the professional game between them is 47 years, assuming they started at 15. If they don’t know the game now, they never will. Interestingly, Robson was 36 when he came to Ipswich as manager.
‘Cook’s mates’ I hear. Well he’s hardly likely to appoint somebody he doesn’t get on with any more than anyone else would in any walk of life. Nobody queried Dale Roberts who was first and foremost Burley’s mate. Nor Royle’s or Lyall’s.
Nobody was interested because the buck stops with the manager and most important, your point - we have no idea how good or bad the coaches are or what they do other than distribute the bibs. |
Some valid points Churchman , now in your opinion is there something missing with the current tactics and set up that is stopping us being a more consistent force ? | | | |
| Genuine question …. on 17:49 - Nov 21 with 2620 views | jontysnut |
| Genuine question …. on 16:21 - Nov 21 by Bobbychase |
It always comes back to how much you blame the coach and his backroom staff. Did Cook tell Celina to miss two sitters yesterday? Did he tell players to make bad passes in the final third? I'd agree we have unreal players for this level, but some of them - Celina and Edwards in particular - need to develop an end product fairly sharpish. Celina had a flurry of goals v Fleetwood and Wycombe but he is tending to drift in games. |
Isn't that the work the coaching staff should be doing in the week? |  | | |
| Genuine question …. on 17:51 - Nov 21 with 2613 views | blueboyd |
| Genuine question …. on 16:05 - Nov 21 by Bobbychase |
No.
The entertainment level is light years ahead of the past four/five seasons. The atmosphere around the club is a complete about-face from the Hurst and Lambert eras (and the end of the McCarthy era TBH).
Almost all the summer signings have been a success, even the ones like Aluko that puzzled us all. The keepers have been dodgy until Walton and Barrie isn't getting a look-in but the impact of players like Burns, Chaplin, Bonne, Morsey, Edmundson etc show Cook has an eye for a transfer.
Add in the fact we are about to have three 25,000+ crowds in a row for the first time in years and will probably invest again in January, makes me question why there is any negativity at the moment. |
*Top of the 'entertainment' league
*Top of the Atmosphere League
*Top of the Succesful Summer Signings League
*Top of the "we've sold a lot of tickets because they are cheap' League.
All while sitting 10th in League One, the 3rd tier of English football with just 6 wins out of 18 games this season...
The way people judge this team by anything other than league position baffles me, we are as good as the position we are in, so 10th, with a massive budget, a massive squad, massive wages and a large fanbase who love what is going on at the moment because they "wuv Cookeeeee"
This league is killing us, we need to get out of it and we should be doing so much better than we are. | | | |
| Genuine question …. on 17:59 - Nov 21 with 2599 views | BlueBadger |
| Genuine question …. on 16:05 - Nov 21 by Bobbychase |
No.
The entertainment level is light years ahead of the past four/five seasons. The atmosphere around the club is a complete about-face from the Hurst and Lambert eras (and the end of the McCarthy era TBH).
Almost all the summer signings have been a success, even the ones like Aluko that puzzled us all. The keepers have been dodgy until Walton and Barrie isn't getting a look-in but the impact of players like Burns, Chaplin, Bonne, Morsey, Edmundson etc show Cook has an eye for a transfer.
Add in the fact we are about to have three 25,000+ crowds in a row for the first time in years and will probably invest again in January, makes me question why there is any negativity at the moment. |
'LOL we're mid table but selling loads of tickets' is about as 'Norwich City' as you can get. | |
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| Genuine question …. on 18:03 - Nov 21 with 2583 views | chrismakin |
| Genuine question …. on 16:05 - Nov 21 by Bobbychase |
No.
The entertainment level is light years ahead of the past four/five seasons. The atmosphere around the club is a complete about-face from the Hurst and Lambert eras (and the end of the McCarthy era TBH).
Almost all the summer signings have been a success, even the ones like Aluko that puzzled us all. The keepers have been dodgy until Walton and Barrie isn't getting a look-in but the impact of players like Burns, Chaplin, Bonne, Morsey, Edmundson etc show Cook has an eye for a transfer.
Add in the fact we are about to have three 25,000+ crowds in a row for the first time in years and will probably invest again in January, makes me question why there is any negativity at the moment. |
Remember when lambert took us down and everyone showed up to support the 'most exciting football ever seen' upto xmas, which suddenly turned into 3/4 shots on goal and struggling to score goals.
Very similar path, made worse by the fact we had a worse start to the season so there's not a high to begin with.
4 2 3 1 gets you plaudits because when it works it's exciting to watch, but when teams work you out and you have no plan B, or you're missing certain requirements, you're watching patient slow build ups with the occasional opportunitiy.... i.e yesturday.
It's been exciting............ but there's a big chance that excitement will be forgotten very quickly over the next month [Post edited 21 Nov 2021 18:09]
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| Genuine question …. on 18:48 - Nov 21 with 2533 views | hunty21 |
| Genuine question …. on 16:18 - Nov 21 by gtsb1966 |
Cook is failing here though. There is no getting away from that unfortunately. |
I disagree cook is the reason we are getting good players in, and the feel good factor is back the atmosphere is better the performance quality is higher , yes we lost against Sunderland but you cant knock our style and relationship with the fans, we are improving and have been consistent with the level we play at we have shown on our dsy we can thrash teams when we convert our chances, we should of won yesterday | | | |
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