| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … 22:33 - Dec 4 with 4033 views | itfcjoe |
Just so many excuse, so many failures - but we’ve been utterly rubbish since he walked through the door. |  |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:34 - Dec 4 with 3403 views | pointofblue |
I didn't expect it so soon - I thought he'd be given Charlton and Wigan at least to see where we were after them. Guess they're free hits now! |  |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:34 - Dec 4 with 3394 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
I can understand why people wanted it to work. Surely we all do.
I cannot understand why so many cannot see that it clearly was not working. |  |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:37 - Dec 4 with 3343 views | N2_Blue |
| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:34 - Dec 4 by pointofblue |
I didn't expect it so soon - I thought he'd be given Charlton and Wigan at least to see where we were after them. Guess they're free hits now! |
Nothing should be a free hit.
But i have more hope that we can get wins from these December games than i did before.
The owners want/need this season to be successful, they have made the change to try save the season. Tall order but there is more chance than if we'd carry on meandering along with PC. |  |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:37 - Dec 4 with 3338 views | Coastalblue |
I posted similar earlier, the biggest shock for me is how shocked some people are.
We're a different club these days and there is going to have to be a ruthless streak instilled, starting from the top. |  |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:39 - Dec 4 with 3285 views | gtsb1966 |
I said before Xmas and I was correct. I'm mystified why people think he hasn't had enough time. Yes the players must take some blame but the inability to change tactics has cost us time and time again. He has had success in the lower leagues and may do again but he is yesterday's man. |  | | |
| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:42 - Dec 4 with 3216 views | BABLUE |
This is true. It’s been a terrible run
Although he was right about last years players and did a favour to the new manager by getting shot of them. |  | | |
| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:44 - Dec 4 with 3130 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Who next Joe? Who do you want ?
I have a feeling it may be Appleton or Boothroyd ( I pray to god its neither of them).
Or does he go for a bigger name and try and tempt somebody down here with a hefty pay packet and a lot of promises. |  |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:45 - Dec 4 with 3125 views | SamWhiteUK |
You said the other day we weren't far off, or words to that effect... |  | | |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:52 - Dec 4 with 3047 views | Vic |
You really didn’t like him did you! And despite your protestations I think that after his treatment of Chambers and the others jettisoned players you didn’t actually him a fair chance. You were on his case, with very, very little slack from that moment.
That said, the fact is that he has been pretty rubbish. He shouldn’t have been, he had all the right qualitfications and experience. It it just hasn’t happened here and i think the club have got the timing of his dismissal absolutely right.
I’ll be interested to hear the truth about what went on at t(e end of last season and why he felt such a drastic reset was needed. I hope it comes out. Maybe your scepticism will proven to be justified after all! |  |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:53 - Dec 4 with 3016 views | pointofblue |
| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:37 - Dec 4 by N2_Blue |
Nothing should be a free hit.
But i have more hope that we can get wins from these December games than i did before.
The owners want/need this season to be successful, they have made the change to try save the season. Tall order but there is more chance than if we'd carry on meandering along with PC. |
I mean if we lose it'll be a case of "we have to wait for the new manager" rather than wondering what the next move will be. | |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:54 - Dec 4 with 2993 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:42 - Dec 4 by BABLUE |
This is true. It’s been a terrible run
Although he was right about last years players and did a favour to the new manager by getting shot of them. |
If this is true, though, why are this year's players performing so much worse?
Is it entirely the manager? I feel like Cook went too far but I guess we will never really know. | |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:58 - Dec 4 with 2892 views | OriginalMarkyP |
I think that's right. I've taken some pretty unpleasant stick for saying the same thing.
But one thing, I think when McG takes over as interim and then the new management team come in they HAVE to work with these players. No more free hits and demolition and 19 signings. Yes sign 3-5 in Jan. Yes get rid of 3-5. But this squad should be good enough not to bin. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 22:59]
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 23:00 - Dec 4 with 2862 views | Guthrum |
Feck me! Just seen the news (all day Beatles session).
But can't say I'm really surprised, under the circumstances. |  |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 23:01 - Dec 4 with 2837 views | Vic |
| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:54 - Dec 4 by Nthsuffolkblue |
If this is true, though, why are this year's players performing so much worse?
Is it entirely the manager? I feel like Cook went too far but I guess we will never really know. |
There’s not a lot of doubt that he leav3s the new manager a much better squad (on average) than he inherited
What is odd is that for some reason he couldn’t get either group to perform to their best. | |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 23:04 - Dec 4 with 2787 views | Vic |
| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 22:58 - Dec 4 by OriginalMarkyP |
I think that's right. I've taken some pretty unpleasant stick for saying the same thing.
But one thing, I think when McG takes over as interim and then the new management team come in they HAVE to work with these players. No more free hits and demolition and 19 signings. Yes sign 3-5 in Jan. Yes get rid of 3-5. But this squad should be good enough not to bin. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 22:59]
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Surely that’s a given OMP. No way will their be another wholesale overhaul. This squad is perfectly capable of being top 6 or even top 2 material. (Probs not this year for the latter!). They’ll add a few, but this is the core of the squad for the next season or so. | |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 23:06 - Dec 4 with 2741 views | TheBoyBlue |
The longer it went on then yes, but I have to admit that I didn't expect it to happen quite so quickly. | |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 23:10 - Dec 4 with 2624 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 23:00 - Dec 4 by Guthrum |
Feck me! Just seen the news (all day Beatles session).
But can't say I'm really surprised, under the circumstances. |
Did you watch all three episodes in one session Guthers? |  |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 23:26 - Dec 4 with 2487 views | homer_123 |
Yet you were shocked yourself Joe!?
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 23:31 - Dec 4 with 2435 views | N2_Blue |
| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 23:26 - Dec 4 by homer_123 |
Yet you were shocked yourself Joe!?
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I have a feeling Joe may have been on the sauce tonight.
Some rather strange post from him and calling PC a nobody isn't a particularly good look.
I thought he had to go but I wish PC nothing but all the best for future and he still has my respect as a football manager. It just didn't work here. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 23:38]
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 23:33 - Dec 4 with 2404 views | Vic |
| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 23:31 - Dec 4 by N2_Blue |
I have a feeling Joe may have been on the sauce tonight.
Some rather strange post from him and calling PC a nobody isn't a particularly good look.
I thought he had to go but I wish PC nothing but all the best for future and he still has my respect as a football manager. It just didn't work here. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 23:38]
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 23:41 - Dec 4 with 2325 views | HighgateBlue |
I could never understand why Phil was so dismissive of the majority view that Cook was on borrowed time... |  | | |
| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 00:03 - Dec 5 with 2197 views | Guthrum |
| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 23:10 - Dec 4 by GlasgowBlue |
Did you watch all three episodes in one session Guthers? |
Indeed, tho with some breaks.
Was very good, but the first episode would have been hard going if you weren't a big Beatles fan and/or interested in the process of writing songs and making an album. | |
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| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 00:24 - Dec 5 with 2097 views | braveblue |
Absolute nonsense. Who should take over. Come on - tell us. | | | |
| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 00:37 - Dec 5 with 2050 views | timothyeo |
| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 23:41 - Dec 4 by HighgateBlue |
I could never understand why Phil was so dismissive of the majority view that Cook was on borrowed time... |
Yes, I didnt understand how Phil couldn't see it either...
Let's ignore his awful record last season, as some tend to anyway.
Let's also ignore the quality of player at his disposal because that alone should be enough to get him sacked right now, but of course half our fanbase get starry eyed whenever a manager says roughly the right things, or anyone from the club for that matter. I remember when things got tough against Evans a couple years ago so he spouted a load of clichés and the likes of Dollers lapped them up.
Lets also ignore the clear inability to motivate players and man manage the squad, ensuring the likes of Pigott feel involved and are sharp when called on for an inevitable dry spell for Bonne.
Lets look at the core fundamental basics that we arent seeing tactically or at least not consistently.
I'm not going to bemoan the long ball approach that creeps in every game as that's a result rather than a cause.
What I fail to understand is what on earth our triggers for pressing are beyond Bonne working hard up front and occasionally a couple behind deciding to join in - there's no organisation or consistency to this basic and its outstanding.
When we lose the ball - half the time it looks like we want to play with a low block instead of high press here which is fine if not a little negative for the league we are in. Other times our midfield will chase singularly and leave a gaping hole between our midfield and centre backs. We've been lucky that the quality in the number 10 position in this league is generally dreadful as the gap is consistently far too big.
When we decide we are going to defend with a low block then the basic fundamental is to revert into defensive shape ASAP - we don't even do this!
We are basically playing a "We have a better squad of players so tactics are irrelevant" model and its enough against the bottom sides (generally speaking) but not the above average sides (generally speaking).
Cook is adding absolutely nothing to us on the pitch. You could send this group of players out without a manager and essentially achieve the same.
There's far more wrong if you want to go more in depth but we are talking about very basic shape during transitions of losing winning and having the ball.
I may have mentioned this before but, Cook Out. | | | |
| Three simple questions on 00:45 - Dec 5 with 2020 views | unstableblue |
| Anyone who couldn’t see this coming was living in a dream world … on 00:37 - Dec 5 by timothyeo |
Yes, I didnt understand how Phil couldn't see it either...
Let's ignore his awful record last season, as some tend to anyway.
Let's also ignore the quality of player at his disposal because that alone should be enough to get him sacked right now, but of course half our fanbase get starry eyed whenever a manager says roughly the right things, or anyone from the club for that matter. I remember when things got tough against Evans a couple years ago so he spouted a load of clichés and the likes of Dollers lapped them up.
Lets also ignore the clear inability to motivate players and man manage the squad, ensuring the likes of Pigott feel involved and are sharp when called on for an inevitable dry spell for Bonne.
Lets look at the core fundamental basics that we arent seeing tactically or at least not consistently.
I'm not going to bemoan the long ball approach that creeps in every game as that's a result rather than a cause.
What I fail to understand is what on earth our triggers for pressing are beyond Bonne working hard up front and occasionally a couple behind deciding to join in - there's no organisation or consistency to this basic and its outstanding.
When we lose the ball - half the time it looks like we want to play with a low block instead of high press here which is fine if not a little negative for the league we are in. Other times our midfield will chase singularly and leave a gaping hole between our midfield and centre backs. We've been lucky that the quality in the number 10 position in this league is generally dreadful as the gap is consistently far too big.
When we decide we are going to defend with a low block then the basic fundamental is to revert into defensive shape ASAP - we don't even do this!
We are basically playing a "We have a better squad of players so tactics are irrelevant" model and its enough against the bottom sides (generally speaking) but not the above average sides (generally speaking).
Cook is adding absolutely nothing to us on the pitch. You could send this group of players out without a manager and essentially achieve the same.
There's far more wrong if you want to go more in depth but we are talking about very basic shape during transitions of losing winning and having the ball.
I may have mentioned this before but, Cook Out. |
And I want three simple yes/no answers
Were you at
Pompey away?
Wycombe away?
Sunderland away?
We have a right to know
PS - I do agree with a lot of what you’re saying |  |
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