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TWTD cooks 11:51 - Mar 30 with 3153 viewsbluelagos

If you have half a jar of black bean sauce, stored in fridge with lid on since first opened. Smells ok, but reckon it's at least 6 months since it was opened.

Added to chicken and veg and would be properly cooked/heated before eating.

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TWTD cooks on 12:01 - Mar 30 with 1353 viewshomer_123

A hard no from me.

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TWTD cooks on 12:08 - Mar 30 with 1345 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

6 months might be pushing it.

Jars of black bean sauce cost pennies, why risk it?!

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TWTD cooks on 12:08 - Mar 30 with 1343 viewsmylittletown

Don't even think about it!
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TWTD cooks on 12:13 - Mar 30 with 1335 viewsGuthrum

Even I'd be a bit wary, the man who happily eats custard made from ten years out of date powder.

Tho have to declare a bias, as I find black bean sauce revolting at the best of times.

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TWTD cooks on 12:19 - Mar 30 with 1324 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

TWTD cooks on 12:13 - Mar 30 by Guthrum

Even I'd be a bit wary, the man who happily eats custard made from ten years out of date powder.

Tho have to declare a bias, as I find black bean sauce revolting at the best of times.


You don't like beef in black bean sauce?! One of my favourite Chinese dishes!

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TWTD cooks on 12:31 - Mar 30 with 1304 viewsLord_Lucan

I would confidently use it, it's jammed packed with preservatives and salt.

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TWTD cooks on 12:41 - Mar 30 with 1286 viewsdickie

If that was all that was left in the apocalypse would you give it a go?
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TWTD cooks on 12:42 - Mar 30 with 1288 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

TWTD cooks on 12:31 - Mar 30 by Lord_Lucan

I would confidently use it, it's jammed packed with preservatives and salt.


Depends if something else has contaminated it (like from the spoon originally used in it). It's probably fine... but for the sake of 50p I'd just buy a new one.

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TWTD cooks on 12:47 - Mar 30 with 1276 viewsdickie

TWTD cooks on 12:42 - Mar 30 by The_Flashing_Smile

Depends if something else has contaminated it (like from the spoon originally used in it). It's probably fine... but for the sake of 50p I'd just buy a new one.


I wonder what botulism smells like in black bean sauce?
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TWTD cooks on 13:50 - Mar 30 with 1201 viewsLord_Lucan

TWTD cooks on 12:19 - Mar 30 by The_Flashing_Smile

You don't like beef in black bean sauce?! One of my favourite Chinese dishes!


And herein lay the problem.

It's not Chinese, it's Cantonese. The muck offered by western "Chinese" restaurants is bloody awful - everything is sweet.

Edit - and by the way "Contaminated by a spoon"! No wonder you got hit with a bad covid dose, you probably have no immune system.
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TWTD cooks on 13:52 - Mar 30 with 1191 viewsDanTheMan

TWTD cooks on 13:50 - Mar 30 by Lord_Lucan

And herein lay the problem.

It's not Chinese, it's Cantonese. The muck offered by western "Chinese" restaurants is bloody awful - everything is sweet.

Edit - and by the way "Contaminated by a spoon"! No wonder you got hit with a bad covid dose, you probably have no immune system.
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As someone who doesn't really like mixing sweet and savoury, this winds me up no end. Only thing I ever tend to eat from a Chinese is the spring rolls.

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TWTD cooks on 14:16 - Mar 30 with 1144 viewsmylittletown

TWTD cooks on 13:50 - Mar 30 by Lord_Lucan

And herein lay the problem.

It's not Chinese, it's Cantonese. The muck offered by western "Chinese" restaurants is bloody awful - everything is sweet.

Edit - and by the way "Contaminated by a spoon"! No wonder you got hit with a bad covid dose, you probably have no immune system.
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So where do you go for your Chinese regional food in this country?
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TWTD cooks on 14:22 - Mar 30 with 1134 viewswkj

If you put a little on the end of your tongue and it is a bit 'fizzy' then it is spent. Personally, I wouldn't chance it as you can do a lot with oil, sugar, soy sauce, and dry spices to make the meal if getting new sauce isn't an option.
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TWTD cooks on 14:29 - Mar 30 with 1117 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

TWTD cooks on 13:50 - Mar 30 by Lord_Lucan

And herein lay the problem.

It's not Chinese, it's Cantonese. The muck offered by western "Chinese" restaurants is bloody awful - everything is sweet.

Edit - and by the way "Contaminated by a spoon"! No wonder you got hit with a bad covid dose, you probably have no immune system.
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Ooh, get you Mr. Expert! So EVERY Chinese restaurant in the West is a fake? Wowsers. You'd better tell that to the Chinese people running them.

Whether beef in black bean sauce is Chinese or Cantonese isn't really the issue. I like it!

My immune system is very good, I rarely get ill.

And yes, things get contaminated by spoons/knives etc. Jam gets mould largely from butter/crumbs on a knife going into it. But fine, encourage him to gamble on food poisoning for the sake of 50p! Great idea!

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TWTD cooks on 14:31 - Mar 30 with 1113 viewsEdwardStone

TWTD cooks on 14:22 - Mar 30 by wkj

If you put a little on the end of your tongue and it is a bit 'fizzy' then it is spent. Personally, I wouldn't chance it as you can do a lot with oil, sugar, soy sauce, and dry spices to make the meal if getting new sauce isn't an option.
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I agree

A bit of dry rub on the meat is always good

And after that you can think what to prepare for supper
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TWTD cooks on 14:41 - Mar 30 with 1097 viewsChurchman

I wouldn’t, personally. I doubt it’ll kill you but I would bin it.

Black bean sauce is mmm.
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TWTD cooks on 14:43 - Mar 30 with 1079 viewsSwansea_Blue

TWTD cooks on 14:31 - Mar 30 by EdwardStone

I agree

A bit of dry rub on the meat is always good

And after that you can think what to prepare for supper


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TWTD cooks on 14:44 - Mar 30 with 1076 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

TWTD cooks on 14:16 - Mar 30 by mylittletown

So where do you go for your Chinese regional food in this country?


He gets his flown in directly from China. Bit of a wait but everything else is an imposter!

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TWTD cooks on 14:50 - Mar 30 with 1056 viewsjeera

TWTD cooks on 14:29 - Mar 30 by The_Flashing_Smile

Ooh, get you Mr. Expert! So EVERY Chinese restaurant in the West is a fake? Wowsers. You'd better tell that to the Chinese people running them.

Whether beef in black bean sauce is Chinese or Cantonese isn't really the issue. I like it!

My immune system is very good, I rarely get ill.

And yes, things get contaminated by spoons/knives etc. Jam gets mould largely from butter/crumbs on a knife going into it. But fine, encourage him to gamble on food poisoning for the sake of 50p! Great idea!


Lucan's perfectly right of course that the regular Chinese restaurants/takeaways are western food and have as much authenticity as their Indian counterparts.

There are places in Chinatown that serve stuff we hardly recognise as food!

I've seen inside a larger commercial kitchen in China courtesy of lucan and can say i didn't recognise much in there either! He has a stronger stomach than i.

In the cities ive no doubt there are places that counter for the tourist too but again, that's the same as anywhere in the world.

To Lagos, next time use what you will and pour the rest into a small tub and freeze. It's one of those items people use once in a blue moon and only needs a spoonful at a time in stock and the rest gets wasted.

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TWTD cooks on 14:51 - Mar 30 with 1043 viewsSkip_Intro

TWTD cooks on 12:47 - Mar 30 by dickie

I wonder what botulism smells like in black bean sauce?


black bean sauce...
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TWTD cooks on 14:52 - Mar 30 with 1035 viewsmylittletown

TWTD cooks on 14:44 - Mar 30 by The_Flashing_Smile

He gets his flown in directly from China. Bit of a wait but everything else is an imposter!


I genuinely want to know. I think that there are far fewer decent examples than there used to be, even in London.
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TWTD cooks on 14:53 - Mar 30 with 1027 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

TWTD cooks on 14:50 - Mar 30 by jeera

Lucan's perfectly right of course that the regular Chinese restaurants/takeaways are western food and have as much authenticity as their Indian counterparts.

There are places in Chinatown that serve stuff we hardly recognise as food!

I've seen inside a larger commercial kitchen in China courtesy of lucan and can say i didn't recognise much in there either! He has a stronger stomach than i.

In the cities ive no doubt there are places that counter for the tourist too but again, that's the same as anywhere in the world.

To Lagos, next time use what you will and pour the rest into a small tub and freeze. It's one of those items people use once in a blue moon and only needs a spoonful at a time in stock and the rest gets wasted.


Yeah I wasn't really up for a debate on authenticity, I was just saying I like beef in black bean sauce!

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TWTD cooks on 14:53 - Mar 30 with 1027 viewsLord_Lucan

TWTD cooks on 14:29 - Mar 30 by The_Flashing_Smile

Ooh, get you Mr. Expert! So EVERY Chinese restaurant in the West is a fake? Wowsers. You'd better tell that to the Chinese people running them.

Whether beef in black bean sauce is Chinese or Cantonese isn't really the issue. I like it!

My immune system is very good, I rarely get ill.

And yes, things get contaminated by spoons/knives etc. Jam gets mould largely from butter/crumbs on a knife going into it. But fine, encourage him to gamble on food poisoning for the sake of 50p! Great idea!


I didn't say they are fake, I said they are not Chinese, they are Cantonese, this is a fact. The food you get in them is nothing like the food in China, it is Hong Kong food.

Similarly Indian restaurants are pretty much all Bangladeshi and not Indian at all - when UK had big waves of immigration from the Sub Continent it was the Bangladeshis that opened restaurants, Indians opened shops and Pakistanis worked in textiles, that''s how it was then and as far as the restaurant side of things nothing much has changed.

I suppose the big difference is that the food is closer to Indian food than Cantonese food is to Chinese, but then again a lot of the food you enjoy in Indian restaurants are Anglo India dishes.

Not sure why you're getting your back up really, just telling you how it is. Even in China Town I haven't had an authentic Chinese.

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TWTD cooks on 14:56 - Mar 30 with 1020 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

TWTD cooks on 14:53 - Mar 30 by Lord_Lucan

I didn't say they are fake, I said they are not Chinese, they are Cantonese, this is a fact. The food you get in them is nothing like the food in China, it is Hong Kong food.

Similarly Indian restaurants are pretty much all Bangladeshi and not Indian at all - when UK had big waves of immigration from the Sub Continent it was the Bangladeshis that opened restaurants, Indians opened shops and Pakistanis worked in textiles, that''s how it was then and as far as the restaurant side of things nothing much has changed.

I suppose the big difference is that the food is closer to Indian food than Cantonese food is to Chinese, but then again a lot of the food you enjoy in Indian restaurants are Anglo India dishes.

Not sure why you're getting your back up really, just telling you how it is. Even in China Town I haven't had an authentic Chinese.


My back's not up fella, I have no skin in this game. You've gone on a rant about authenticity when all I was saying is I like beef in black bean sauce. It seems that your back was got up because I called it Chinese! My bad!

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TWTD cooks on 14:57 - Mar 30 with 1012 viewsjeera

TWTD cooks on 14:52 - Mar 30 by mylittletown

I genuinely want to know. I think that there are far fewer decent examples than there used to be, even in London.


There'll be places wherever there's a Chinese community.

Just not on the average high street.

Lots of basic ingredients available online though then all you need is a trip to the local butchers for your tripe and the fish mongers for some eyeballs and you're well on your way.

None of this pork balls in sweet sauce nonsense.

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