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Oh the irony 10:27 - Jul 23 with 4704 viewsVeggie

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Oh the irony on 10:54 - Jul 23 with 3638 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

He's also talking nonsense, there's loads of channels I can think of that aren't available on the Amazon Fire Stick. Like all the Sky channels for starters!

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Oh the irony on 11:01 - Jul 23 with 3570 viewsberkstractorboy

Oh the irony on 10:54 - Jul 23 by The_Flashing_Smile

He's also talking nonsense, there's loads of channels I can think of that aren't available on the Amazon Fire Stick. Like all the Sky channels for starters!


Was thinking the same Sky don't give their content away to other providers so quite a chunk of sports channels missing there for starters
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Oh the irony on 11:04 - Jul 23 with 3539 viewsStenvict

Oh the irony on 10:54 - Jul 23 by The_Flashing_Smile

He's also talking nonsense, there's loads of channels I can think of that aren't available on the Amazon Fire Stick. Like all the Sky channels for starters!


I think Cruncher is referring to something somewhat illegal

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Oh the irony on 11:08 - Jul 23 with 3511 viewsSitfcB

Oh the irony on 10:54 - Jul 23 by The_Flashing_Smile

He's also talking nonsense, there's loads of channels I can think of that aren't available on the Amazon Fire Stick. Like all the Sky channels for starters!


I wouldn’t announce in public that I’m breaking the law though

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Oh the irony on 11:17 - Jul 23 with 3458 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Oh the irony on 11:08 - Jul 23 by SitfcB

I wouldn’t announce in public that I’m breaking the law though


I'm unaware of a way of using the Amazon Fire Stick to break the law.

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Oh the irony on 11:21 - Jul 23 with 3448 viewsStokieBlue

Oh the irony on 11:17 - Jul 23 by The_Flashing_Smile

I'm unaware of a way of using the Amazon Fire Stick to break the law.


You can buy Fire Sticks which have been sideloaded with all the channels from Sky and iFollow etc without the need to pay the subscription fees. Hence 75 GBP for the year.

It's highly illegal, literally stealing money from the club (one for FrimleyMakin there) and proves him to be the kind of intelligent person who writes on bedsheets by posting that on a public platform.

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Oh the irony on 11:29 - Jul 23 with 3368 viewsJ2BLUE

Oh the irony on 11:21 - Jul 23 by StokieBlue

You can buy Fire Sticks which have been sideloaded with all the channels from Sky and iFollow etc without the need to pay the subscription fees. Hence 75 GBP for the year.

It's highly illegal, literally stealing money from the club (one for FrimleyMakin there) and proves him to be the kind of intelligent person who writes on bedsheets by posting that on a public platform.

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Agreed. It's funny how many people have their morals on a piece of elastic when it comes to Sky.

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Oh the irony on 11:30 - Jul 23 with 3365 viewsclive_baker

Oh the irony on 11:04 - Jul 23 by Stenvict

I think Cruncher is referring to something somewhat illegal


Yeah a lot of people have been doing that for a long time, accessing sky sports, BT sport, iFollow etc with an Amazon fire stick. I think it’s going to be harder to do in the future, and as you say it’s illegal.

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Oh the irony on 11:30 - Jul 23 with 3358 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Oh the irony on 11:21 - Jul 23 by StokieBlue

You can buy Fire Sticks which have been sideloaded with all the channels from Sky and iFollow etc without the need to pay the subscription fees. Hence 75 GBP for the year.

It's highly illegal, literally stealing money from the club (one for FrimleyMakin there) and proves him to be the kind of intelligent person who writes on bedsheets by posting that on a public platform.

SB


Oh wow, I had no idea. So who on earth do you pay the yearly subscription to? I wouldn't want to be setting up a Direct Debit to criminals!

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Oh the irony on 11:48 - Jul 23 with 3212 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Oh the irony on 11:29 - Jul 23 by J2BLUE

Agreed. It's funny how many people have their morals on a piece of elastic when it comes to Sky.


Morals or finances?

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Oh the irony on 11:49 - Jul 23 with 3193 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Oh the irony on 11:30 - Jul 23 by The_Flashing_Smile

Oh wow, I had no idea. So who on earth do you pay the yearly subscription to? I wouldn't want to be setting up a Direct Debit to criminals!


A one off payment to some Leeds based @narchist inclined folk I've heard!

Edit....probably Chumbawamba innit.
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"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Oh the irony on 11:56 - Jul 23 with 3145 viewsJ2BLUE

Oh the irony on 11:48 - Jul 23 by BanksterDebtSlave

Morals or finances?


Are you suggesting that wanting something you can't afford makes stealing ok?

There's are many things I would like but don't want to pay for. Unfortunately that means not having those things.

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Oh the irony on 12:06 - Jul 23 with 3049 viewstextbackup

Oh the irony on 11:30 - Jul 23 by The_Flashing_Smile

Oh wow, I had no idea. So who on earth do you pay the yearly subscription to? I wouldn't want to be setting up a Direct Debit to criminals!


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Oh the irony on 12:07 - Jul 23 with 3036 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Oh the irony on 11:56 - Jul 23 by J2BLUE

Are you suggesting that wanting something you can't afford makes stealing ok?

There's are many things I would like but don't want to pay for. Unfortunately that means not having those things.


I'm not sure I regard it as theft to watch your football team when the alternative is unaffordable. You are just buying a cheaper option and would otherwise not be paying for the alternative. In other words either way Sky/BT still get nothing.
Wouldn't buy a stolen physical item but I have no moral dilemmas over this example.

Edit....also the people that can do this stuff are bloody amazing technically and there customer service is exemplary....so I hear.
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"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Oh the irony on 12:10 - Jul 23 with 3015 viewsBlueandTruesince82

Oh the irony on 11:49 - Jul 23 by BanksterDebtSlave

A one off payment to some Leeds based @narchist inclined folk I've heard!

Edit....probably Chumbawamba innit.
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Lol @ chumbawumba 👏🙌

Why is a bedsheet salesman causing as much chatter on here as the Celina saga?

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Oh the irony on 12:10 - Jul 23 with 3007 viewsJ2BLUE

Oh the irony on 12:07 - Jul 23 by BanksterDebtSlave

I'm not sure I regard it as theft to watch your football team when the alternative is unaffordable. You are just buying a cheaper option and would otherwise not be paying for the alternative. In other words either way Sky/BT still get nothing.
Wouldn't buy a stolen physical item but I have no moral dilemmas over this example.

Edit....also the people that can do this stuff are bloody amazing technically and there customer service is exemplary....so I hear.
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Interesting

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Oh the irony on 12:15 - Jul 23 with 2943 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Oh the irony on 12:10 - Jul 23 by J2BLUE

Interesting


I also believe that ideas are a commons so have no truck for intellectual copyright either but that's just me.

Edit...I also see how they make some sort of sense at times under the current profit orientated economic system but in my sixth form Utopia......
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"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Oh the irony on 12:19 - Jul 23 with 2904 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Oh the irony on 12:10 - Jul 23 by BlueandTruesince82

Lol @ chumbawumba 👏🙌

Why is a bedsheet salesman causing as much chatter on here as the Celina saga?


Chumbawamba love their football. Def info.

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Oh the irony on 12:23 - Jul 23 with 2871 viewsJakeITFC

Oh the irony on 11:30 - Jul 23 by The_Flashing_Smile

Oh wow, I had no idea. So who on earth do you pay the yearly subscription to? I wouldn't want to be setting up a Direct Debit to criminals!


I’ve done it myself before when I was a poor student and it’s relatively simple to do, effectively what the fire stick ends up being is just a directory to loads of different streams but can have quite a nice display on it that makes it very easy to find stuff and slick to use.

The problem is that with all of these illegal streaming sites (other than them being illegal!) is that they often get shutdown quite regularly and so there is a fair bit of work to make sure that the links are pointing at the right place (hence the subscription I guess, but I got bored of doing it myself).
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Oh the irony on 13:09 - Jul 23 with 2681 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Oh the irony on 12:06 - Jul 23 by textbackup

I sometimes wonder if you live under a rock


Wow, any need for that?!

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Oh the irony on 13:28 - Jul 23 with 2594 viewsNthQldITFC

Oh the irony on 11:17 - Jul 23 by The_Flashing_Smile

I'm unaware of a way of using the Amazon Fire Stick to break the law.


I guess you could sharpen one and jam it up Joris Bohnson's a-hole?

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Oh the irony on 14:04 - Jul 23 with 2436 viewsVeggie

Oh the irony on 12:07 - Jul 23 by BanksterDebtSlave

I'm not sure I regard it as theft to watch your football team when the alternative is unaffordable. You are just buying a cheaper option and would otherwise not be paying for the alternative. In other words either way Sky/BT still get nothing.
Wouldn't buy a stolen physical item but I have no moral dilemmas over this example.

Edit....also the people that can do this stuff are bloody amazing technically and there customer service is exemplary....so I hear.
[Post edited 23 Jul 2022 12:09]


I’m not sure that would stand up in court.
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Oh the irony on 14:19 - Jul 23 with 2351 viewsBlueStreak

Oh the irony on 13:09 - Jul 23 by The_Flashing_Smile

Wow, any need for that?!


Testers has a point though. I something cannot believe how little you know about anything judging by some of the threads that you start / comment on. Seems like you are successful in your field of work as well which makes it even more astounding.
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Oh the irony on 14:23 - Jul 23 with 2311 viewsBbmaj

Oh the irony on 14:04 - Jul 23 by Veggie

I’m not sure that would stand up in court.


This is not the same as receiving stolen goods though. In that scenario, someone has been deprived of a physical asset, but this is a digital copy which can be reproduced as many times as required.

As I understand it, the people committing the illegal act are those providing the service, facilitating access to the streams and bypassing the terms and conditions of the broadcaster.

A consumer of the service would not go to court or even be fined, unless they were sharing with others - e.g. showing the game in a pub.

There is a moral case that could be made, for or against depriving a billionaire or faceless shareholders of a few quid…. And there is a moral case to be made for taking profit out of the system for the benefit of all. Is the Premier League and UK football better off for the sky billions? Or does an unacceptable chunk of the money filter down into players salaries, and then onto the local flash car dealer or poncey bar? ITFC suffered thanks to ITV Digital, so maybe I hold a grudge.

I pay my way but don’t begrudge those who don’t. You may get a better service by paying, but that doesn’t always apply to iFollow! At least the club are seeing some of that profit.
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Oh the irony on 14:32 - Jul 23 with 2258 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Oh the irony on 14:19 - Jul 23 by BlueStreak

Testers has a point though. I something cannot believe how little you know about anything judging by some of the threads that you start / comment on. Seems like you are successful in your field of work as well which makes it even more astounding.


This is a steaming service and an illegal way to use it. I hardly think that's something which would be common knowledge, unless you move in criminal circles or spend all your time on twitter. How did you find out about it out of interest?

BTW in most of my question-threads I do already know, I'm just looking for other opinions/options I may have missed.

Regardless, it's still a nasty thing to say and I guarantee he wouldn't say it to my face.

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