| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party 22:32 - Oct 2 with 1744 views | XYZ |
She'd dismiss them as a bunch of economically illiterate idiots.
They simply don't make any sense to anyone with a functioning brain.
Liz Truss, who was at the heart of a cabinet that oversaw the biggest corrupt raid on Britain's public purse (PPE VIP scandal; Bounce Back loan scandal; Track and Trace scandal) that they were "all about" "value for money" in public spending - whilst refusing to reaffirm Suank's promises from a few months ago.
Apparently that was a different government.
Anyone like to defend these crooks?
Let's crawl back to the EU and beg forgiveness. Dump the £ - the rest of the world already has - join the € to protect the 99%.
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| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 22:38 - Oct 2 with 1459 views | NthQldITFC |
I just love this anonymous former cabinet minister quote on Trussump:
'Yet Truss appears to lack even the slightest hint of self-doubt that she may be on the wrong track. “She has supreme self-confidence — she’s brave, determined, doesn’t flinch,” one former cabinet minister says. “But that’s the generous interpretation.”'
from https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/02/trusss-mini-budget-looks-likely |  |
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| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 22:44 - Oct 2 with 1440 views | Oldsmoker |
It seems that the induction motor connected to Thatchers grave is producing 15KW of power.
Spin Maggie, spin. |  |
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| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 22:57 - Oct 2 with 1413 views | HARRY10 |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 22:38 - Oct 2 by NthQldITFC |
I just love this anonymous former cabinet minister quote on Trussump:
'Yet Truss appears to lack even the slightest hint of self-doubt that she may be on the wrong track. “She has supreme self-confidence — she’s brave, determined, doesn’t flinch,” one former cabinet minister says. “But that’s the generous interpretation.”'
from https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/02/trusss-mini-budget-looks-likely |
"Truss is the longest serving cabinet minister, having served in Tory cabinets from Cameron’s onwards. “She’s always done what was asked of her in those roles,” one ally says."
Which begs the question, who is now doing the asking ? | | | |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 23:04 - Oct 2 with 1406 views | XYZ |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 22:44 - Oct 2 by Oldsmoker |
It seems that the induction motor connected to Thatchers grave is producing 15KW of power.
Spin Maggie, spin. |
Thatcher would vote for Starmer for the sake of saving the country.
DK and BDS can untangle that one for cleansing my conscience. | | | |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 10:21 - Oct 3 with 1185 views | XYZ |
... hours later the Thatcher wannabee tribute act does a screeching handbrake U turn ...
Her supporters on here are left with nothing but ad hominem attacks and desperately trying to be the edgelordy cool guy at the age of 55.
Which 100% principled position they hold today will they dump tomorrow? No one is willing to explain it; but they'll still put a cross next to Tom Hunt's name. | | | |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 10:50 - Oct 3 with 1151 views | HARRY10 |
"coalition of chaos"
"strong and stable "
"master knows best"
Must be galling for the ever so 'umble. A week into the first tentative steps of brexit, the markets collapse and the flashing warning lights and lorry reversing noises are heard.
I wonder if they will tell us what public services will now receive the money those tax cuts would have cost. | | | |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 10:56 - Oct 3 with 1133 views | giant_stow |
No ta to the Euro. Fair enough on the rest. |  |
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| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 10:59 - Oct 3 with 1119 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 10:50 - Oct 3 by HARRY10 |
"coalition of chaos"
"strong and stable "
"master knows best"
Must be galling for the ever so 'umble. A week into the first tentative steps of brexit, the markets collapse and the flashing warning lights and lorry reversing noises are heard.
I wonder if they will tell us what public services will now receive the money those tax cuts would have cost. |
Or maybe just borrow a bit less. |  |
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| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:08 - Oct 3 with 1098 views | leitrimblue |
I don't think she would at all. The idea of tax cuts for the richest in society will cutting the services used by the poorest in society is the fundamental principal of the torie party.
What's weird is suddenly seeing all these tories trying to distance themselves from the kinda policies they have championed all their political lives.
Haven't they long claimed that tax cuts for the wealthiest In society was a good thing otherwise 'the job/wealth creators will leave the uk'. Now suddenly this isn't what they believe in? |  | | |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:09 - Oct 3 with 1090 views | HARRY10 |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 10:59 - Oct 3 by Tangledupin_Blue |
Or maybe just borrow a bit less. |
A level of borrowing that was necessary to 'grow the economy', but is not necessary to fund sustainability
Rather blows a massive hole in their flawed strategy | | | |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:38 - Oct 3 with 1039 views | MattinLondon |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 22:38 - Oct 2 by NthQldITFC |
I just love this anonymous former cabinet minister quote on Trussump:
'Yet Truss appears to lack even the slightest hint of self-doubt that she may be on the wrong track. “She has supreme self-confidence — she’s brave, determined, doesn’t flinch,” one former cabinet minister says. “But that’s the generous interpretation.”'
from https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/02/trusss-mini-budget-looks-likely |
She was once a Liberal, once a republican and once campaigned to stay in the EU.
She isn’t confident just totally shameless. |  | | |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:40 - Oct 3 with 1035 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:08 - Oct 3 by leitrimblue |
I don't think she would at all. The idea of tax cuts for the richest in society will cutting the services used by the poorest in society is the fundamental principal of the torie party.
What's weird is suddenly seeing all these tories trying to distance themselves from the kinda policies they have championed all their political lives.
Haven't they long claimed that tax cuts for the wealthiest In society was a good thing otherwise 'the job/wealth creators will leave the uk'. Now suddenly this isn't what they believe in? |
I have to disagree.
Thatcher would not have lasted for eleven years as PM if she had not been competent, confident and politically intelligent. Of those characteristics Truss has confidence but appears to be without the other two to any great degree.
Thatcher had sufficient savvy to know when to press on with unpopular measures and when to rein them in.
She would not have allowed the debacle of the last ten days. | |
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| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:43 - Oct 3 with 1017 views | EdwardStone |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:40 - Oct 3 by Tangledupin_Blue |
I have to disagree.
Thatcher would not have lasted for eleven years as PM if she had not been competent, confident and politically intelligent. Of those characteristics Truss has confidence but appears to be without the other two to any great degree.
Thatcher had sufficient savvy to know when to press on with unpopular measures and when to rein them in.
She would not have allowed the debacle of the last ten days. |
Ummmm....
Poll Tax?
Thatcher's political antenna let her down on that one |  | | |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:46 - Oct 3 with 1008 views | giant_stow |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:43 - Oct 3 by EdwardStone |
Ummmm....
Poll Tax?
Thatcher's political antenna let her down on that one |
She probably wouldn't have liked the unfunded nature of these tax cuts, I reckon. | |
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| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:48 - Oct 3 with 988 views | HARRY10 |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:40 - Oct 3 by Tangledupin_Blue |
I have to disagree.
Thatcher would not have lasted for eleven years as PM if she had not been competent, confident and politically intelligent. Of those characteristics Truss has confidence but appears to be without the other two to any great degree.
Thatcher had sufficient savvy to know when to press on with unpopular measures and when to rein them in.
She would not have allowed the debacle of the last ten days. |
eh ?
are we to overlook the poll tax ?
much of what she spouted came from Keith Joseph
once he had departed we were given Lawsons 1988 budget, which in true Tory fashion crashed the economy, and led to a massive house price crash among many other things
Thatcher was no different to Truss, an idiot used by others to promote flawed economic thinking, much as Johnson was used as the believable face of Brexit | | | |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:53 - Oct 3 with 979 views | XYZ |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:46 - Oct 3 by giant_stow |
She probably wouldn't have liked the unfunded nature of these tax cuts, I reckon. |
That's the fundamental point I was making - the sheer recklessness. Thatcher would have more respect for Jeremy Corbyn than she would for Truss and Kwarteng.
She'd gone mad by the time of the poll tax - being in power more than 8 years (max) leads to madness - Thatcher, Blair, etc etc
The Americans got that bit right in their constitution. | | | |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:54 - Oct 3 with 974 views | Ryorry |
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| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 12:27 - Oct 3 with 898 views | leitrimblue |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:46 - Oct 3 by giant_stow |
She probably wouldn't have liked the unfunded nature of these tax cuts, I reckon. |
She would have loved the giving more tax breaks to the richest in society while cutting services/benefits to the poorest though | | | |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 12:34 - Oct 3 with 888 views | leitrimblue |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:40 - Oct 3 by Tangledupin_Blue |
I have to disagree.
Thatcher would not have lasted for eleven years as PM if she had not been competent, confident and politically intelligent. Of those characteristics Truss has confidence but appears to be without the other two to any great degree.
Thatcher had sufficient savvy to know when to press on with unpopular measures and when to rein them in.
She would not have allowed the debacle of the last ten days. |
You remember the poll tax? Public order bill? Miners strike etc? I think all she really managed to do was convince loads of people that owning a council house made them middle class and going somewhere rather then even more trapped on a council estate | | | |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 15:26 - Oct 3 with 755 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:43 - Oct 3 by EdwardStone |
Ummmm....
Poll Tax?
Thatcher's political antenna let her down on that one |
Good job below I read before posting the same thing |  |
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| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 15:55 - Oct 3 with 709 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 11:48 - Oct 3 by HARRY10 |
eh ?
are we to overlook the poll tax ?
much of what she spouted came from Keith Joseph
once he had departed we were given Lawsons 1988 budget, which in true Tory fashion crashed the economy, and led to a massive house price crash among many other things
Thatcher was no different to Truss, an idiot used by others to promote flawed economic thinking, much as Johnson was used as the believable face of Brexit |
Well she did eventually over-reach but by that time she had been at the top of the slimy pole for longer than anyone since the nineteenth century.
At that time the cabinet office was a place where differing views might be aired and a consensus formed rather than the echo chamber it has become. And a willingness to consult experienced trusted aides such as Keith Joseph and Willie Whitelaw might be seen as strengths in a leader rather than signs of weakness.
I get that you didn't like her - neither did I - but she clearly was not an idiot. | |
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| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 16:13 - Oct 3 with 673 views | XYZ |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 15:55 - Oct 3 by Tangledupin_Blue |
Well she did eventually over-reach but by that time she had been at the top of the slimy pole for longer than anyone since the nineteenth century.
At that time the cabinet office was a place where differing views might be aired and a consensus formed rather than the echo chamber it has become. And a willingness to consult experienced trusted aides such as Keith Joseph and Willie Whitelaw might be seen as strengths in a leader rather than signs of weakness.
I get that you didn't like her - neither did I - but she clearly was not an idiot. |
Quite. Thatcher had a good moan about the "wets", but they stayed in her cabinet rather than being expelled from the party as is the current policy in the tory party. | | | |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 16:16 - Oct 3 with 672 views | HARRY10 |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 15:55 - Oct 3 by Tangledupin_Blue |
Well she did eventually over-reach but by that time she had been at the top of the slimy pole for longer than anyone since the nineteenth century.
At that time the cabinet office was a place where differing views might be aired and a consensus formed rather than the echo chamber it has become. And a willingness to consult experienced trusted aides such as Keith Joseph and Willie Whitelaw might be seen as strengths in a leader rather than signs of weakness.
I get that you didn't like her - neither did I - but she clearly was not an idiot. |
'Consult' as the same way Sooty consults with Harry Corbett.
She was little more than an ill informed bigot all too willing to do the dirty work for those 'behind the scenes', as with Johnson and now Truss.
I think it was Heseltine who commented on how she would turn up at cabinet meetings full of ideas, which she was then unable to enlarge upon.
Bribing thick voters by selling off 'the family silver' has left a shameful record. Norway used the oil to create a sovereign wealth fund. used it to improve their infrastructure and develop long term planning
Under Thatcher the sale of utilities allowed them to pass out of our control, something with oil and energy we are suffering with. Much the railways. Those three are pretty much owned by foreign state owned companies, to which the UK pays hefty subsidies
I expect you will be telling us next what wonders Evans did for our club. | | | |
| Y'all were desperate to throw Boris out on 16:23 - Oct 3 with 652 views | blueasfook |
Classic case of "Be careful what you wish for".
Now we got Pork Markets Truss and Kwasi Klueless. Congrats. |  |
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| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 16:29 - Oct 3 with 631 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Thatcher would disown the current Tory party on 12:34 - Oct 3 by leitrimblue |
You remember the poll tax? Public order bill? Miners strike etc? I think all she really managed to do was convince loads of people that owning a council house made them middle class and going somewhere rather then even more trapped on a council estate |
With the poll tax she went too far and was ousted a couple of years later when her cabinet colleagues decided that she had become a liability.
The Public Order Act and defeating the miners strike are examples of her competence. I am not suggesting that she was right on Public Order; rather that she was sufficiently competent to frame the law and to push it through parliament. And with the miners she decided that Scargill must be defeated and she defeated him.
I am not saying that she was good or right though, if she had been in charge over the last seven years I suspect we would still be in the EU. I am saying that she was competent; a formidable foe. Different gravy from the present awful rabble. | |
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