| Surely midfield is our January priority now? 14:08 - Nov 15 with 3339 views | SomethingBlue |
I'll say first that I think it's a difficult window in many ways but especially because we play in such a specific way and it takes time for newcomers to tune up.
I think the striker stuff gets a bit overblown. My massive concern now is the engine room. Evans was the best midfielder in the division, for me, in the few weeks before his injury and reading between the lines we'll be lucky to see him in a month's time — then realistically it's several weeks before hitting the old levels. Morsy is already three cards away from a two-game ban, let's be honest he'll rack those up around Christmas. May have to lean on a barely workable Camara/Humphries axis at some point and we need to get our cover right for the rest of the season to avoid more of that.
Basically we need another Ball type — no frills, good egg, happy to step in and compete well when required. I don't have a name for you but we need one, it's going to be important. |  |
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:18 - Nov 15 with 3266 views | BiGDonnie |
What about Brannagan at Oxford? |  |
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:22 - Nov 15 with 3250 views | SomethingBlue |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:18 - Nov 15 by BiGDonnie |
What about Brannagan at Oxford? |
Would take him, probably, though for balance I think someone a bit more defensive is ideal. | |
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:29 - Nov 15 with 3236 views | Exiled2Surrey |
Comment made by the Cheltenham commentators was that, despite the fact they thought they were very lucky not to be much further behind when they scored, we are so open if teams want to attack us having committed our usual 5 players to all out attack (striker, 10s, Wing Backs) - so I think you are right.
We do have a couple of these players in the loan world. El Miz is the obvious first name - maybe not Evans' level but clearly going very well in L2. Harper is a less attractive option. Could Woolfenden play there in extremis?
Please, nobody mention Flynn Downes... | | | |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:38 - Nov 15 with 3193 views | LankHenners |
Yeah there's a few fixtures in the first month or so of the new year where you wouldn't want a weakened midfield that's for sure. If we were desperate I think we'd look at getting El-Miz back but in the grand scheme of things no point doing that to cover a couple of games then sticking him back on the bench (or outside the 18) once the cavalry return from the sick bay.
Agree with the type of player we need - without a bit of research can't think of a 'solid pro' who would be available and willing to hold the fort until Evans is up and running properly. |  |
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:39 - Nov 15 with 3172 views | bournemouthblue |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:29 - Nov 15 by Exiled2Surrey |
Comment made by the Cheltenham commentators was that, despite the fact they thought they were very lucky not to be much further behind when they scored, we are so open if teams want to attack us having committed our usual 5 players to all out attack (striker, 10s, Wing Backs) - so I think you are right.
We do have a couple of these players in the loan world. El Miz is the obvious first name - maybe not Evans' level but clearly going very well in L2. Harper is a less attractive option. Could Woolfenden play there in extremis?
Please, nobody mention Flynn Downes... |
The Wolf in midfield could be an interesting one, he's technically astute, certainly
Could you put Donacien in there or maybe even KVY, sometimes full backs can do that holding role?
This is assuming we don't go out and find Ball II
It's a tricky one because once Evans is back, they don't necessarily get much of a look in any way, you've already got Camara
Do you make do for the timebeing, I assume Harper and El Miz don't have recalls any way?
If only we had someone like McGavin to do a job for a bit whilst others are out [Post edited 15 Nov 2022 14:41]
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:40 - Nov 15 with 3160 views | iamipswich |
El Mizouni's time has finally come. |  |
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:40 - Nov 15 with 3157 views | BigCommon |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:29 - Nov 15 by Exiled2Surrey |
Comment made by the Cheltenham commentators was that, despite the fact they thought they were very lucky not to be much further behind when they scored, we are so open if teams want to attack us having committed our usual 5 players to all out attack (striker, 10s, Wing Backs) - so I think you are right.
We do have a couple of these players in the loan world. El Miz is the obvious first name - maybe not Evans' level but clearly going very well in L2. Harper is a less attractive option. Could Woolfenden play there in extremis?
Please, nobody mention Flynn Downes... |
I've often thought Woolfy could play as an anchor man in midfield. Especially last season when we were down to our bare bones.. He reads the game well, he's quick, he's physical and he can provide the odd burst forwards with ball at his feet. And he doesn't panic under pressure. And he can pick the odd pass, although not as well as Evans, probably. With all of our CB options, I'd be tempted to play Wollfy at DM if needed. Give whoever plays alongside him, plenty of license to get forwards. Be that Morsy or Humphreys . |  | | |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:44 - Nov 15 with 3140 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:38 - Nov 15 by LankHenners |
Yeah there's a few fixtures in the first month or so of the new year where you wouldn't want a weakened midfield that's for sure. If we were desperate I think we'd look at getting El-Miz back but in the grand scheme of things no point doing that to cover a couple of games then sticking him back on the bench (or outside the 18) once the cavalry return from the sick bay.
Agree with the type of player we need - without a bit of research can't think of a 'solid pro' who would be available and willing to hold the fort until Evans is up and running properly. |
Re El-Miz, even if it is for a few games before everyone else is up to speed, in the absence of better alternatives I would still recall him if it meant that the team had a greater chance of the autos. That has to be the primary objective for this season beyond young player development. | | | |
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:46 - Nov 15 with 3122 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:40 - Nov 15 by BigCommon |
I've often thought Woolfy could play as an anchor man in midfield. Especially last season when we were down to our bare bones.. He reads the game well, he's quick, he's physical and he can provide the odd burst forwards with ball at his feet. And he doesn't panic under pressure. And he can pick the odd pass, although not as well as Evans, probably. With all of our CB options, I'd be tempted to play Wollfy at DM if needed. Give whoever plays alongside him, plenty of license to get forwards. Be that Morsy or Humphreys . |
and its not like we are short of CB alternatives to Woolf | | | |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:56 - Nov 15 with 3075 views | Dubtractor |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:29 - Nov 15 by Exiled2Surrey |
Comment made by the Cheltenham commentators was that, despite the fact they thought they were very lucky not to be much further behind when they scored, we are so open if teams want to attack us having committed our usual 5 players to all out attack (striker, 10s, Wing Backs) - so I think you are right.
We do have a couple of these players in the loan world. El Miz is the obvious first name - maybe not Evans' level but clearly going very well in L2. Harper is a less attractive option. Could Woolfenden play there in extremis?
Please, nobody mention Flynn Downes... |
No way would I stick Woolfy in there - it's a totally different role to picking passes out of defence, and requires a very different, much more agile, player. I can see why you'd make the suggestion, I just happen to think it would be a very bad fit.
I think the big unknown is just how long Evans is out for - unless he is back and firing for January then we clearly need another option, as as Thingers has mentioned, they need to be able to play a similar role to Evans so a passer who can also screen the defence a little. |  |
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:56 - Nov 15 with 3076 views | Illinoisblue |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:38 - Nov 15 by LankHenners |
Yeah there's a few fixtures in the first month or so of the new year where you wouldn't want a weakened midfield that's for sure. If we were desperate I think we'd look at getting El-Miz back but in the grand scheme of things no point doing that to cover a couple of games then sticking him back on the bench (or outside the 18) once the cavalry return from the sick bay.
Agree with the type of player we need - without a bit of research can't think of a 'solid pro' who would be available and willing to hold the fort until Evans is up and running properly. |
I take your point but there is no grand scheme beyond getting promoted. The grand scheme is the here and now. If that means El Miz has to come back for a bit and then not get used much so be it. |  |
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 15:33 - Nov 15 with 2927 views | cbower |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:18 - Nov 15 by BiGDonnie |
What about Brannagan at Oxford? |
I have suggested him both at the end of last season and again after Saturday. He is a good player but would cost and would be expecting to be first choice. Given the circumstances on reflection I can see a recall for Idris or Harper if possible or a loan deal for a Keoghlike midfielder (age and experience). It is set up for Camara and Humphries I guess but we are one light at the mement. |  |
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 15:59 - Nov 15 with 2825 views | davblue |
would think a loan rather than a permie would be the right approach. |  | | |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 16:04 - Nov 15 with 2802 views | LankHenners |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:56 - Nov 15 by Illinoisblue |
I take your point but there is no grand scheme beyond getting promoted. The grand scheme is the here and now. If that means El Miz has to come back for a bit and then not get used much so be it. |
Well that is true, guess I was more thinking from his point of view where he's been constantly unfortunate not to be more involved in the first team for pretty much his whole professional career here. | |
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 16:04 - Nov 15 with 2798 views | itfcjoe |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:38 - Nov 15 by LankHenners |
Yeah there's a few fixtures in the first month or so of the new year where you wouldn't want a weakened midfield that's for sure. If we were desperate I think we'd look at getting El-Miz back but in the grand scheme of things no point doing that to cover a couple of games then sticking him back on the bench (or outside the 18) once the cavalry return from the sick bay.
Agree with the type of player we need - without a bit of research can't think of a 'solid pro' who would be available and willing to hold the fort until Evans is up and running properly. |
Could theoretically get El Miz back on 1st Jan and send him back to orient on 31st once rest of players are back and up to speed |  |
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 16:09 - Nov 15 with 2745 views | LankHenners |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 16:04 - Nov 15 by itfcjoe |
Could theoretically get El Miz back on 1st Jan and send him back to orient on 31st once rest of players are back and up to speed |
I did wonder but wasn't sure if that was allowed (or if the club would feel it appropriate to mess Orient about like that). Guess the danger with that is if Evans is out for a bit longer than hoped and we need cover for longer but in any case expect a more permanent replacement to be sourced to avoid that situation. | |
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 16:13 - Nov 15 with 2724 views | itfcjoe |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 16:09 - Nov 15 by LankHenners |
I did wonder but wasn't sure if that was allowed (or if the club would feel it appropriate to mess Orient about like that). Guess the danger with that is if Evans is out for a bit longer than hoped and we need cover for longer but in any case expect a more permanent replacement to be sourced to avoid that situation. |
Yep, because if he comes back and plays here he would then only be able to go to Orient due to the 2 club rule so if they sourced replacement he is done | |
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 17:12 - Nov 15 with 2483 views | chicoazul |
Morsy banned again soon? Surely not.
Agreed in general luv but we should definitely get another 9. Did Will Keane sign that deal in the end..?? [Post edited 15 Nov 2022 17:13]
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 19:36 - Nov 15 with 2322 views | HighgateBlue |
Striker. The finishing was woeful at the weekend. 15 corners to zero, and Davis' delivery was excellent. 29 shots to 4. Daft.
Ladapo's instrumental goal mouth action was limited to blocking Chaplin's shot. Decent striker and we'd be guaranteed a top 2 spot. |  | | |
| My Leyton Orient mates are raving about El Miz.. I think it’s time to bring hi on 19:38 - Nov 15 with 2312 views | unstableblue |
| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 14:40 - Nov 15 by iamipswich |
El Mizouni's time has finally come. |
… him back
Humphreys is Evans understudy, El Miz should be Morsys |  |
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| Surely midfield is our January priority now? on 20:22 - Nov 15 with 2255 views | jayessess |
If that's the criteria I can't see a better move than recalling El Mizouni.
He's kicked on and is currently the standout young midfielder in League 2, near the top of the charts for his off the ball work and for his passing. Costs us virtually nothing to put him back in the squad.
Can't see that any significantly better options will want to be our injury-cover. [Post edited 15 Nov 2022 20:25]
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