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El Miz has to be recalled in January 20:03 - Nov 27 with 3408 viewscbower

Even if Evans comes back before January (and that's a bif if), we are one injury or suspension away from problems in the centre of the park. Clear that Camara has problems and despite today, we really don't want to be patching things up with Woolfie in there. If El Miz stays at Orient then Brannigan from Oxford. Statement signing with Championship ability imho. Would cost of course.

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:05 - Nov 27 with 3362 viewsMullet

Could easily see us dipping into a grizzled old loanee market, especially if it means someone gets promotion on their CV and needs a contract in the summer.

As great as it would be to see El Miz step up, a midfield of him and Humphreys wouldn't be ideal either.

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:06 - Nov 27 with 3357 viewsNthsuffolkblue

It all depends on whether we are signing someone suitable early in the window. It would be a shame to recall El Mizouni and then not play him.

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:09 - Nov 27 with 3313 viewsMaySixth

Yes

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:17 - Nov 27 with 3246 viewscbower

El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:05 - Nov 27 by Mullet

Could easily see us dipping into a grizzled old loanee market, especially if it means someone gets promotion on their CV and needs a contract in the summer.

As great as it would be to see El Miz step up, a midfield of him and Humphreys wouldn't be ideal either.


No, not ideal and as someone has said, tough on El Miz. However, he has half a season performing well in L2 and has been knocking around our squad since the relegation season. I remember him playing in the dismal defeat at Preston after the drop was confirmed. Just like Humphries, now might be his time?
Any suggestions as to who this grizzled old loanee might be? A Richie Wellens type I guess?
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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:43 - Nov 27 with 3106 viewsTractorFrog

A Leyton Orient fan who I barely know stopped me to tell me he thought Idris El Mizouni was an outstanding player, first name on the team sheet for them, who are top of the League 2 table, and we should definitely recall him in January.

They'd all laugh at me if they knew what I was trying to do. To create a new strain of super-wine in half-an-hour with a fraction of nature's resources and a FOOL for an assistant. 'Bernard Black, he's mad,' they'd say, 'he's insane, he's dangerous.' Well I'll show them! I'll show them all!
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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:46 - Nov 27 with 3070 viewsMullet

El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:17 - Nov 27 by cbower

No, not ideal and as someone has said, tough on El Miz. However, he has half a season performing well in L2 and has been knocking around our squad since the relegation season. I remember him playing in the dismal defeat at Preston after the drop was confirmed. Just like Humphries, now might be his time?
Any suggestions as to who this grizzled old loanee might be? A Richie Wellens type I guess?
Anyone for a Rakheem return?


I think Harper's career needs a restart. Clearly, that was meant to be here but circumstance and time has got away from him unfortunately. If he'd have had a season next to Morsy I reckon he'd be flying by now.

Had a look at midfielders coming to the end of their contracts and found someone who doesn't fit the shout at all. However, Josh Onomah has fallen out of favour at Fulham and I wonder if KMcK would know him from Spurs?

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:47 - Nov 27 with 3055 viewssouthnorfolkblue

El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:17 - Nov 27 by cbower

No, not ideal and as someone has said, tough on El Miz. However, he has half a season performing well in L2 and has been knocking around our squad since the relegation season. I remember him playing in the dismal defeat at Preston after the drop was confirmed. Just like Humphries, now might be his time?
Any suggestions as to who this grizzled old loanee might be? A Richie Wellens type I guess?
Anyone for a Rakheem return?


If he is going to have a future with us he has to grasp the opportunity when it comes along. January has to be that time, otherwise when will he get a chance? It’s difficult to see him breaking in at the start of next season because of the numbers ahead of him. This maybe his only chance to stake a claim. Tough on Orient, but he’s our player first and foremost.

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:48 - Nov 27 with 3052 viewsParisBlue

We can always bring him back and loan him out later in the window if things ease up. Tough on Orient though.

He's also not cup-tied. He was on the bench but didn't come on when Orient lost in the 1st round.

Good to see Ndaba played for Burton today.

If Greg Leigh is out for a period of time then I wonder if we'll bring a Matt Penney back.

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:49 - Nov 27 with 3048 viewsitfcjoe

Without a doubt - even if Evans is fit again he's had 2 bad injuries in 8 months or so under McKenna so can't be relied upon to get through season

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:55 - Nov 27 with 2975 viewsMullet

El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:48 - Nov 27 by ParisBlue

We can always bring him back and loan him out later in the window if things ease up. Tough on Orient though.

He's also not cup-tied. He was on the bench but didn't come on when Orient lost in the 1st round.

Good to see Ndaba played for Burton today.

If Greg Leigh is out for a period of time then I wonder if we'll bring a Matt Penney back.


Can't loan him if we play him though so seems a bit pointless.

Also, has Chirewa signed a contract or indicated he will? Assumed he was frozen out a la Simpson unless he had.

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 21:02 - Nov 27 with 2885 viewscbower

El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:46 - Nov 27 by Mullet

I think Harper's career needs a restart. Clearly, that was meant to be here but circumstance and time has got away from him unfortunately. If he'd have had a season next to Morsy I reckon he'd be flying by now.

Had a look at midfielders coming to the end of their contracts and found someone who doesn't fit the shout at all. However, Josh Onomah has fallen out of favour at Fulham and I wonder if KMcK would know him from Spurs?


Time to use any contacts McKenna has methinks!

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 21:21 - Nov 27 with 2740 viewsNutkins_Return

El Miz has to be recalled in January on 21:02 - Nov 27 by cbower

Time to use any contacts McKenna has methinks!


Savage would be the obvious one. Spent time training with us. Knows McKenna well. Allows El Miz to finish his season and get the experience he needs. Wouldn't rule out both.

Still a player in Harper. He would still provide decent cover as well.

Penney as it stands is only 6 months loan I think. Phil? So if Leigh was longer term that seems a pretty obvious fix given he's done well. But not as strong a defender as Leigh.

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 21:42 - Nov 27 with 2636 viewsitfcjoe

El Miz has to be recalled in January on 20:55 - Nov 27 by Mullet

Can't loan him if we play him though so seems a bit pointless.

Also, has Chirewa signed a contract or indicated he will? Assumed he was frozen out a la Simpson unless he had.


You could loan him back to Orient

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 22:09 - Nov 27 with 2535 viewsMullet

El Miz has to be recalled in January on 21:42 - Nov 27 by itfcjoe

You could loan him back to Orient


Well yes, I wasn't clear there!

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 12:49 - Nov 28 with 2119 viewsitfcsuth

Dependent on where we are with Evans and Camara come December, whoever it is could well be 5th choice.

For the case of being 5th choice you wonder whether it will be Harper who comes back given how well El Mizouni is doing - do we want to disrupt that progress.

I think it is too early to tell really.
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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 13:14 - Nov 28 with 2033 viewstractorboy1978

El Miz has to be recalled in January on 21:21 - Nov 27 by Nutkins_Return

Savage would be the obvious one. Spent time training with us. Knows McKenna well. Allows El Miz to finish his season and get the experience he needs. Wouldn't rule out both.

Still a player in Harper. He would still provide decent cover as well.

Penney as it stands is only 6 months loan I think. Phil? So if Leigh was longer term that seems a pretty obvious fix given he's done well. But not as strong a defender as Leigh.


We need a Morsy replacement, not a kid. Probably not an easy find as you want someone willing to play second fiddle to him but to be very capable of stepping in. He's going to be banned for two games soon and two games could be the difference between top 2 or not the way things are shaping up.
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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 13:29 - Nov 28 with 1976 viewsitfcjoe

El Miz has to be recalled in January on 13:14 - Nov 28 by tractorboy1978

We need a Morsy replacement, not a kid. Probably not an easy find as you want someone willing to play second fiddle to him but to be very capable of stepping in. He's going to be banned for two games soon and two games could be the difference between top 2 or not the way things are shaping up.


Where do you find someone who can step in for the 2nd best midfielder in the league who is up to speed and ready to go? It's going to prove to be impossible so someone like El Mizouni, who is contracted long term here and is flying at Orient is as good as bet as anyone.

We saw from the Ndaba situation last year that a good loan spell in league below won't get you closer to first team here so having El Miz back in the building good for all parties

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 13:33 - Nov 28 with 1950 viewsclive_baker

Agree. Might not on the face of it be what's best for his development, being a bit part here for 5 months vs. staying at Orient where he's doing so well and challenging for the title. I just think we need to be single minded about our objectives, he's in form and confidence will be high, let's get him back into the group and strengthen our midfield options.

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 13:40 - Nov 28 with 1910 viewstractorboy1978

El Miz has to be recalled in January on 13:29 - Nov 28 by itfcjoe

Where do you find someone who can step in for the 2nd best midfielder in the league who is up to speed and ready to go? It's going to prove to be impossible so someone like El Mizouni, who is contracted long term here and is flying at Orient is as good as bet as anyone.

We saw from the Ndaba situation last year that a good loan spell in league below won't get you closer to first team here so having El Miz back in the building good for all parties


Yeah I think that may end up being the case, my comment was more against someone like Savage coming in. I suspect we will try to bring someone else into that CM area though and El Mizouni will be the fall back option.
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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 15:50 - Nov 28 with 1754 viewsJ2BLUE

El Miz has to be recalled in January on 13:14 - Nov 28 by tractorboy1978

We need a Morsy replacement, not a kid. Probably not an easy find as you want someone willing to play second fiddle to him but to be very capable of stepping in. He's going to be banned for two games soon and two games could be the difference between top 2 or not the way things are shaping up.


If he’s on 9 going into the Portsmouth game would you have him get one against Portsmouth so he’s out for Lincoln and Morecambe before coming back for Plymouth at home?

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El Miz has to be recalled in January on 16:04 - Nov 28 with 1718 viewscbower

El Miz has to be recalled in January on 15:50 - Nov 28 by J2BLUE

If he’s on 9 going into the Portsmouth game would you have him get one against Portsmouth so he’s out for Lincoln and Morecambe before coming back for Plymouth at home?


As sure as eggs is eggs that 2 match ban is coming sooner rather than later isn't it!

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