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Elis Simms....... 08:06 - Jun 19 with 12672 viewsPippin1970

Is he one definitely through the door . Seems loads of speculation on him . Obviously will know our other ex Everton forward.
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Elis Simms....... on 08:20 - Jun 19 with 6887 viewsSteve_M

Well there was a Twitter account with a massive 38 followers claiming it was an agreed deal so that's me convinced.

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Elis Simms....... on 08:24 - Jun 19 with 6856 viewsPippin1970

Elis Simms....... on 08:20 - Jun 19 by Steve_M

Well there was a Twitter account with a massive 38 followers claiming it was an agreed deal so that's me convinced.


Interesting times. Ladopa or Harness or Adhme sold off. Keep upgrading existing players.
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Elis Simms....... on 08:29 - Jun 19 with 6790 viewsBlueandTruesince82

Elis Simms....... on 08:20 - Jun 19 by Steve_M

Well there was a Twitter account with a massive 38 followers claiming it was an agreed deal so that's me convinced.


Seems to be another that's started with Brent Fischer who apparently writes for the Daily Star, never heard of him so IDK if he's even real

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Elis Simms....... on 08:33 - Jun 19 with 6737 viewsOldsmoker

I now have blind faith in the Town management team.
I'll be Ok with who they recruit and let go.
I'm not going to get excited about a rumour no matter how much def info is offerred.
When the signature is on the contract then I'll join in the conversation 'cos he'll be our player.

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Elis Simms....... on 09:01 - Jun 19 with 6486 viewsGuthrum

Elis Simms....... on 08:24 - Jun 19 by Pippin1970

Interesting times. Ladopa or Harness or Adhme sold off. Keep upgrading existing players.


I'd be quite surprised if Ladapo is sold, would be indicative of a major squad overhaul - or a serious need to raise money.

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Elis Simms....... on 09:08 - Jun 19 with 6376 viewsdavblue

Elis Simms....... on 09:01 - Jun 19 by Guthrum

I'd be quite surprised if Ladapo is sold, would be indicative of a major squad overhaul - or a serious need to raise money.


i don't think i would be surprised. Thought he improved massively during the season but i thought Hirst was a real step up from him.

Unless they have an eye on a couple of strikers, but i can't see us spending fees on 2 strikers this summer.
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Elis Simms....... on 09:11 - Jun 19 with 6319 viewsportmanking

Elis Simms....... on 09:08 - Jun 19 by davblue

i don't think i would be surprised. Thought he improved massively during the season but i thought Hirst was a real step up from him.

Unless they have an eye on a couple of strikers, but i can't see us spending fees on 2 strikers this summer.


Ladapo out and Simms and Hirst in, for me. The one area where we need to invest for the next 3-4 years and those two could stick around and grow.

Each offers something different too - Hirst is the pressing forward. Simms is the target man, ideal for playing against deep-lying teams.
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Elis Simms....... on 09:14 - Jun 19 with 6247 viewsdavblue

Elis Simms....... on 09:11 - Jun 19 by portmanking

Ladapo out and Simms and Hirst in, for me. The one area where we need to invest for the next 3-4 years and those two could stick around and grow.

Each offers something different too - Hirst is the pressing forward. Simms is the target man, ideal for playing against deep-lying teams.


will we potentially spend 6-7 million on those 2 with FFP rules? Im not sure we would without selling someone for a good fee, is Ladapo going to bring in a few million, no i suspect we could get 500k-750k max for him.
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Elis Simms....... on 09:16 - Jun 19 with 6210 viewscressi

Elis Simms....... on 09:11 - Jun 19 by portmanking

Ladapo out and Simms and Hirst in, for me. The one area where we need to invest for the next 3-4 years and those two could stick around and grow.

Each offers something different too - Hirst is the pressing forward. Simms is the target man, ideal for playing against deep-lying teams.


Personally I don't think Freddie will be going anywhere at Rotherham he got double figures and only played till Xmas as he told them he wished to leave.
Also we will need 3 strikers if one gets injured or suspended we don't want Jackson or Adhadme as our back up striker .
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Elis Simms....... on 09:16 - Jun 19 with 6217 viewsportmanking

Elis Simms....... on 09:14 - Jun 19 by davblue

will we potentially spend 6-7 million on those 2 with FFP rules? Im not sure we would without selling someone for a good fee, is Ladapo going to bring in a few million, no i suspect we could get 500k-750k max for him.


As Phil has intimated, Simms isn't going to be 3.5m that the papers are reporting.

I envisage paying £2m+ each for Simms and Hirst. Sell Ladapo even for £500k and you've futureproofed your forward line for £3.5m - pocket change at Champ level.
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Elis Simms....... on 09:18 - Jun 19 with 6176 viewsFrimleyBlue

Elis Simms....... on 09:14 - Jun 19 by davblue

will we potentially spend 6-7 million on those 2 with FFP rules? Im not sure we would without selling someone for a good fee, is Ladapo going to bring in a few million, no i suspect we could get 500k-750k max for him.


What if we spent the money before the middle of June... doesn't it count as league 1 spend.

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Elis Simms....... on 09:21 - Jun 19 with 6136 viewstextbackup

At a kids football tournament Saturday, with a few very well connected people floating about. His name was mentioned as a done deal, with another this week (name unknown)

Was also said our budget to strengthen is only 2nd to Leeds.
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Elis Simms....... on 09:22 - Jun 19 with 6095 viewsPinewoodblue

Elis Simms....... on 09:18 - Jun 19 by FrimleyBlue

What if we spent the money before the middle of June... doesn't it count as league 1 spend.


Don’t Championship rules cover last three seasons irrespective of what league you were in?

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Elis Simms....... on 09:25 - Jun 19 with 6023 viewsthe_toff

Elis Simms....... on 08:29 - Jun 19 by BlueandTruesince82

Seems to be another that's started with Brent Fischer who apparently writes for the Daily Star, never heard of him so IDK if he's even real


I think he's a loser twitter troll. Used to be ITFC Luxembourg.

Having said that I do think there's truth in the Simms link, irrespective of loser twitter trolls. I think Phil said himself that is was one that was based on some truth.
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Elis Simms....... on 09:27 - Jun 19 with 5962 viewsitfc_bucks

Elis Simms....... on 08:24 - Jun 19 by Pippin1970

Interesting times. Ladopa or Harness or Adhme sold off. Keep upgrading existing players.


It never ceases to amaze me how often our own fan base mis-spells the names of our own players...
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Elis Simms....... on 09:27 - Jun 19 with 5958 viewsdavblue

Elis Simms....... on 09:18 - Jun 19 by FrimleyBlue

What if we spent the money before the middle of June... doesn't it count as league 1 spend.


the middle of June has gone!
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Elis Simms....... on 09:29 - Jun 19 with 5901 viewsthe_toff

Elis Simms....... on 09:11 - Jun 19 by portmanking

Ladapo out and Simms and Hirst in, for me. The one area where we need to invest for the next 3-4 years and those two could stick around and grow.

Each offers something different too - Hirst is the pressing forward. Simms is the target man, ideal for playing against deep-lying teams.


In the system we play how do you keep 2 'big money' arrivals happy in that position? You would think both would want some guarantee that they'll be starting which, unless we change the system isn't likely. There will be lots of rotation but will that be enough for these guys?

I can see 1 or the other coming in, with Ladapo the one acting as cover.
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Elis Simms....... on 09:31 - Jun 19 with 5855 viewsdavblue

Elis Simms....... on 09:16 - Jun 19 by portmanking

As Phil has intimated, Simms isn't going to be 3.5m that the papers are reporting.

I envisage paying £2m+ each for Simms and Hirst. Sell Ladapo even for £500k and you've futureproofed your forward line for £3.5m - pocket change at Champ level.


Blackburn had a agreed a 6 million fee for Hirst, obviously they are not going to get that nowv and it depends on how desperate Leicester are but i would think they would be looking for 3 million.

Hope im wrong and we get both in for a couple of million a piece.
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Elis Simms....... on 09:32 - Jun 19 with 5809 viewsFrimleyBlue

Elis Simms....... on 09:27 - Jun 19 by davblue

the middle of June has gone!


I know. That's why I said spent instead of spend.


Perhaps agreements have even made for some players. Not necessarily simms, but Could be done already but just not announced yet.

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Elis Simms....... on 09:33 - Jun 19 with 5801 viewsportmanking

Elis Simms....... on 09:31 - Jun 19 by davblue

Blackburn had a agreed a 6 million fee for Hirst, obviously they are not going to get that nowv and it depends on how desperate Leicester are but i would think they would be looking for 3 million.

Hope im wrong and we get both in for a couple of million a piece.


I don't think Leicester hold any aces re. Hirst deal. I don't see a long line of clubs clamouring to pay seven-figure fees for him this summer.

£2m, take it or leave it, should get it done. Especially if they need funds to rebuild themselves.
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Elis Simms....... on 09:35 - Jun 19 with 5772 viewsportmanking

Elis Simms....... on 09:29 - Jun 19 by the_toff

In the system we play how do you keep 2 'big money' arrivals happy in that position? You would think both would want some guarantee that they'll be starting which, unless we change the system isn't likely. There will be lots of rotation but will that be enough for these guys?

I can see 1 or the other coming in, with Ladapo the one acting as cover.


There'll be plenty of rotation in the Championship, especially against teams with different styles. Both players can have a major say on our squad. If both stay fit, they'll both feature in all 46 games, it's just that some will be for 65 mins and some will be for 25-30 mins.
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Elis Simms....... on 09:36 - Jun 19 with 5741 viewsMetal_Hacker

Elis Simms....... on 09:29 - Jun 19 by the_toff

In the system we play how do you keep 2 'big money' arrivals happy in that position? You would think both would want some guarantee that they'll be starting which, unless we change the system isn't likely. There will be lots of rotation but will that be enough for these guys?

I can see 1 or the other coming in, with Ladapo the one acting as cover.


There's always fighting for your position regardless of what league you're in

Surely if you want to be your best self then you put yourself up against the best at that time in being .....if any player isn't up for it then by my estimation he's not the right man for the job
Competition is good for both player and club

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Elis Simms....... on 09:44 - Jun 19 with 5599 viewsNthQldITFC

Elis Simms....... on 09:16 - Jun 19 by cressi

Personally I don't think Freddie will be going anywhere at Rotherham he got double figures and only played till Xmas as he told them he wished to leave.
Also we will need 3 strikers if one gets injured or suspended we don't want Jackson or Adhadme as our back up striker .


I too think Freddie will be here still, and I have a sneaking suspicion that he'll have a great season (again).

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Elis Simms....... on 09:47 - Jun 19 with 5530 viewsStewart27

Elis Simms....... on 09:29 - Jun 19 by the_toff

In the system we play how do you keep 2 'big money' arrivals happy in that position? You would think both would want some guarantee that they'll be starting which, unless we change the system isn't likely. There will be lots of rotation but will that be enough for these guys?

I can see 1 or the other coming in, with Ladapo the one acting as cover.


I think people overthink the whole keeping players happy thing. KM will sort that like he did with Hirst and Ladapo last season.

It’s not alien to have multiple good players in each position at a club. I guess it’s just alien for us as town fans. Our front line pairing a few years back was Freddie Sears and Ollie Hawkins.
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Elis Simms....... on 09:49 - Jun 19 with 5484 viewsthe_toff

Elis Simms....... on 09:35 - Jun 19 by portmanking

There'll be plenty of rotation in the Championship, especially against teams with different styles. Both players can have a major say on our squad. If both stay fit, they'll both feature in all 46 games, it's just that some will be for 65 mins and some will be for 25-30 mins.


Yes that's the point, is playing 50% of our minutes going to float their boat? I can't imagine Simms is looking to drop down from the Premier League to play 50% of the season.
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