| Longest Serving EFL Managers 13:31 - Nov 20 with 4333 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
Following Derek Adams resignation as Morecambe boss, only 16 of the 72 EFL managers were in charge of their current club at the end of the 21/22 season.
No wonder clubs find it so hard to create an identity and style of play when they keep changing managers. |  | | |  |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 13:59 - Nov 20 with 4188 views | Sharkey |
Very true, - but sometimes of course it's not the club that instigates the change. Duff and Manning both left 'upwards' recently, when they'd started to create some style and identity. Not sure how many others there are in the period you mention - Ainsworth closely followed by Bloomfield spring to mind , - though Colchester have also 'axed' Garner since then, (I'm not quite sure why.) [Post edited 20 Nov 2023 13:59]
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 14:31 - Nov 20 with 4057 views | ElephantintheRoom |
I think you’re looking at this from the wrong end of the stick. Most managers are utterly useless and awaiting their pay off and next stop on the gravy train.
Whilst the rewards for abject failure are far higher than stability or moderate success, nothing will change. | |
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 14:38 - Nov 20 with 4023 views | Keno |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 14:31 - Nov 20 by ElephantintheRoom |
I think you’re looking at this from the wrong end of the stick. Most managers are utterly useless and awaiting their pay off and next stop on the gravy train.
Whilst the rewards for abject failure are far higher than stability or moderate success, nothing will change. |
just proves that Ipswich are lucky to have such a well regarded and secure ownership structure who are able to give a young manager a stable platform to build a team |  |
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 15:35 - Nov 20 with 3888 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 14:38 - Nov 20 by Keno |
just proves that Ipswich are lucky to have such a well regarded and secure ownership structure who are able to give a young manager a stable platform to build a team |
Possibly. Be interesting to see how long they stand by him if the results dont match ‘the plan.
I doubt he’d still be here if Town had contrived to finish below Sheff Wed last season | |
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 15:41 - Nov 20 with 3861 views | JimmyJazz |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 15:35 - Nov 20 by ElephantintheRoom |
Possibly. Be interesting to see how long they stand by him if the results dont match ‘the plan.
I doubt he’d still be here if Town had contrived to finish below Sheff Wed last season |
What about this season, where would we contrive to finish to result in a sacking this season? Playoffs maybe? |  |
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 16:25 - Nov 20 with 3771 views | tractorshark |
Frightening that people would have considered sacking McKenna if we'd finished below Sheffield Wednesday last season.
Even more scary that there would be a consideration for sacking him if we didn't reach the playoffs this season.
Of course it is a results-driven business but nothing the owners have said suggests they would part with McKenna if we didn't reach the playoffs this season. They would be absolutely bonkers to sack him. Look at the ceiling he has.
Sadly the default response from the modern football fan is to demand instant success and make swift changes if it is not delivered. We have already seen a few murmurings and grumbles from some of our 'long lost' returning fans this season when things haven't quite gone to plan. The 'I've always been a Blue, I just couldn't watch it under McCarthy, Hurst, Lambert etc brigade'.
And that's after winning 12 of our 16 league matches and losing once.
I would be more concerned that McKenna will be poached by another club if we don't reach the playoffs. [Post edited 20 Nov 2023 20:43]
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 16:33 - Nov 20 with 3732 views | N2_Blue |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 15:35 - Nov 20 by ElephantintheRoom |
Possibly. Be interesting to see how long they stand by him if the results dont match ‘the plan.
I doubt he’d still be here if Town had contrived to finish below Sheff Wed last season |
Utter BS |  |
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 18:09 - Nov 20 with 3569 views | MK1 |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 15:35 - Nov 20 by ElephantintheRoom |
Possibly. Be interesting to see how long they stand by him if the results dont match ‘the plan.
I doubt he’d still be here if Town had contrived to finish below Sheff Wed last season |
That is some statement. You think they would have sacked him if we finished 3rd last season? |  |
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 18:12 - Nov 20 with 3562 views | MK1 |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 16:25 - Nov 20 by tractorshark |
Frightening that people would have considered sacking McKenna if we'd finished below Sheffield Wednesday last season.
Even more scary that there would be a consideration for sacking him if we didn't reach the playoffs this season.
Of course it is a results-driven business but nothing the owners have said suggests they would part with McKenna if we didn't reach the playoffs this season. They would be absolutely bonkers to sack him. Look at the ceiling he has.
Sadly the default response from the modern football fan is to demand instant success and make swift changes if it is not delivered. We have already seen a few murmurings and grumbles from some of our 'long lost' returning fans this season when things haven't quite gone to plan. The 'I've always been a Blue, I just couldn't watch it under McCarthy, Hurst, Lambert etc brigade'.
And that's after winning 12 of our 16 league matches and losing once.
I would be more concerned that McKenna will be poached by another club if we don't reach the playoffs. [Post edited 20 Nov 2023 20:43]
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If we finish below them this season, I'll sack him myself. | |
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 18:55 - Nov 20 with 3488 views | SitfcB |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 15:35 - Nov 20 by ElephantintheRoom |
Possibly. Be interesting to see how long they stand by him if the results dont match ‘the plan.
I doubt he’d still be here if Town had contrived to finish below Sheff Wed last season |
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 19:01 - Nov 20 with 3466 views | Churchman |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 15:35 - Nov 20 by ElephantintheRoom |
Possibly. Be interesting to see how long they stand by him if the results dont match ‘the plan.
I doubt he’d still be here if Town had contrived to finish below Sheff Wed last season |
What do you base this opinion on? |  | | |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 19:03 - Nov 20 with 3462 views | MK1 |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 19:01 - Nov 20 by Churchman |
What do you base this opinion on? |
Being a Norwich City supporter. | |
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 00:05 - Nov 21 with 3243 views | wkj |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 15:35 - Nov 20 by ElephantintheRoom |
Possibly. Be interesting to see how long they stand by him if the results dont match ‘the plan.
I doubt he’d still be here if Town had contrived to finish below Sheff Wed last season |
Pointless supposition really, we didn't and for half a season didn't look like we were going to. |  |
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 01:59 - Nov 21 with 3204 views | Vegtablue |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 19:03 - Nov 20 by MK1 |
Being a Norwich City supporter. |
If anyone doubts the man's loyalties give this gem a quick read:
https://www.twtd.co.uk/blogs/21799/where-next/#0
And consider how he's since basked in the light that was at the end of the tunnel after all. We're overdue a new blog Mr Elephant. | | | |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 06:32 - Nov 21 with 3110 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 00:05 - Nov 21 by wkj |
Pointless supposition really, we didn't and for half a season didn't look like we were going to. |
Not at all - because for half a season Town looked like they were going to blow it. Even after the mid-season money doping things took a while to gel - with some on here calling for McKenna to go. I’d be very surprised if the gurning Ashton wasn’t working on a ‘succession plan’ to put to his paymasters if things hadn’t improved drastically.
The deluded on here may not like it but Americans ‘investing’ in a market they neither know nor understand in a faraway land are looking for greater returns than they can get with their borrowed money at home. And results have to match ‘the plan’. | |
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 07:29 - Nov 21 with 3037 views | Churchman |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 06:32 - Nov 21 by ElephantintheRoom |
Not at all - because for half a season Town looked like they were going to blow it. Even after the mid-season money doping things took a while to gel - with some on here calling for McKenna to go. I’d be very surprised if the gurning Ashton wasn’t working on a ‘succession plan’ to put to his paymasters if things hadn’t improved drastically.
The deluded on here may not like it but Americans ‘investing’ in a market they neither know nor understand in a faraway land are looking for greater returns than they can get with their borrowed money at home. And results have to match ‘the plan’. |
After 23 games we had 48 points. In what way were we blowing it? We weren’t. That we drew rather than won for a period was magnified by the relentless form of Wednesday and Argyle. That’s all. Even if we’d done nothing in the transfer window it’s likely we would have been promoted. Regardless, was a huge improvement on 21/22 and McKenna would have stayed and rightly so.
Would you call Ashton ‘gurning’ to his face? Of course not so it’s disrespectful to call him that on here and just reflects on you. As it goes, of course he succession plans. Everyone anywhere in a position of responsibility for others does.
I think it’s you that’s deluded about the Americans. I suspect they know far more about the money side of football in this country than you give them credit for. There’s been nothing since April 2021 to indicate otherwise.
Of course the results have to match the plan. S0d all point in having a plan unless they do. And if they don’t, what will these owners do? No idea, but the first stage is to understand why.
You may mourn those halcyon days of goalies wearing woolly jumpers, big ole boots, a brylcreem centre parting, the maximum wage, booze in the dressing room, leg breakers on the pitch, smoke rising from a packed terrace. I don’t. They’re gone anyway. And regardless, amongst the patrician owners, there were plenty of scumbags. They weren’t all benign like the Duke of Devonshire’s relations.
Let it go. Enjoy the now. A quite remarkable, enjoyable season and a third. I suggest you get a ticket to Portman Road and see for yourself. You never know, you might lose yourself for a couple of hours and actually enjoy it.
Edit: If you do get in to PR, I suggest you leave the yellow and green scarf at home. [Post edited 21 Nov 2023 7:33]
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 07:39 - Nov 21 with 2999 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 06:32 - Nov 21 by ElephantintheRoom |
Not at all - because for half a season Town looked like they were going to blow it. Even after the mid-season money doping things took a while to gel - with some on here calling for McKenna to go. I’d be very surprised if the gurning Ashton wasn’t working on a ‘succession plan’ to put to his paymasters if things hadn’t improved drastically.
The deluded on here may not like it but Americans ‘investing’ in a market they neither know nor understand in a faraway land are looking for greater returns than they can get with their borrowed money at home. And results have to match ‘the plan’. |
We pretty much have the best results, and best standard of football in two decades, in front of 29k fans every week.
All you can do is post misery, and hark back to the days of death trap stadiums, hooliganism and skint owners. Get a grip. | | | |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 08:09 - Nov 21 with 2950 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 07:39 - Nov 21 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
We pretty much have the best results, and best standard of football in two decades, in front of 29k fans every week.
All you can do is post misery, and hark back to the days of death trap stadiums, hooliganism and skint owners. Get a grip. |
Er?
You might need to read Ashton’s puff about a ‘succession plan’ in the EADT should McKenna exit stage left for a ‘big job’ ie Leicester, Leeds or Southampton - whoever hits the panic button first as the season progresses
It’s the same ‘succession plan’ he’d open on his laptop if Schwarz told him to sack McKenna.
As others have said it’s pure conjecture either way. At present. But my original point was that McKenna is being successful - and he’d earn far more if he was unsuccessful hopping on and off the gravy train. | |
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 08:29 - Nov 21 with 2885 views | Churchman |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 08:09 - Nov 21 by ElephantintheRoom |
Er?
You might need to read Ashton’s puff about a ‘succession plan’ in the EADT should McKenna exit stage left for a ‘big job’ ie Leicester, Leeds or Southampton - whoever hits the panic button first as the season progresses
It’s the same ‘succession plan’ he’d open on his laptop if Schwarz told him to sack McKenna.
As others have said it’s pure conjecture either way. At present. But my original point was that McKenna is being successful - and he’d earn far more if he was unsuccessful hopping on and off the gravy train. |
Did you listen to his interview the other day? That’s what stories on succession planning and stadium are based on. Nothing else.
Why did you choose Leeds, Saints and Leicester as examples of ‘big jobs’? I presume that Norwich having parachute payments too would also be a ‘big job’? By inference you are calling ITFC a little job. Nice dig. Neatly done. You were ‘on the ball’ with that one.
Of course of the owners order KM fired he’s out. They own the club. No different to Leeds kicking out Clough in 1974. Struggling to see your point.
As for McKenna earning more jumping jobs, your point makes no sense. Why would he do that at his age and current situation unless it was for one of the really big clubs like Spurs?
Basically your hatred of ITFC shines brightly. I’m sure you can find solace and happiness at Cambridge, Bristol or the budgie hovel. [Post edited 21 Nov 2023 8:43]
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| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 08:40 - Nov 21 with 2864 views | NthQldITFC |
| Longest Serving EFL Managers on 15:35 - Nov 20 by ElephantintheRoom |
Possibly. Be interesting to see how long they stand by him if the results dont match ‘the plan.
I doubt he’d still be here if Town had contrived to finish below Sheff Wed last season |
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