| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 12:06 - Aug 26 with 4429 views | Keno |
In case we are keeping count |  |
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| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:13 - Aug 26 with 3603 views | bazza |
Video assisted racket. |  | | |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:13 - Aug 26 with 3601 views | waveneyblue |
I would be genuinely surprised if we get a single one.
The fact that Saturdays wasn't even looked at, tells you everything you need to know about the system. |  | | |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:16 - Aug 26 with 3569 views | Europablue |
What are you counting as going against us? The penalty that Man City got was actually a penalty.
The penalty that we should have got was nothing to do with VAR because the ref didn't even use it.
The referee should be held to account, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do that. |  | | |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:21 - Aug 26 with 3522 views | EastTownBlue |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:16 - Aug 26 by Europablue |
What are you counting as going against us? The penalty that Man City got was actually a penalty.
The penalty that we should have got was nothing to do with VAR because the ref didn't even use it.
The referee should be held to account, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do that. |
Eh ?
The ref doesn't get to select when VAR gets involved or not on decisions. Both the ref and VAR messed up. | | | |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:26 - Aug 26 with 3482 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Dermot Gallagher was an interesting watch. He seemed to say both decisions were right but Warnock rightly pulled him up that if VAR is getting involved in one it has to get involved in the other as well.
Both should have been penalties but they did not affect the final outcome on this occasion. Let's hope they fall for us when it really matters. |  |
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| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:30 - Aug 26 with 3437 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:16 - Aug 26 by Europablue |
What are you counting as going against us? The penalty that Man City got was actually a penalty.
The penalty that we should have got was nothing to do with VAR because the ref didn't even use it.
The referee should be held to account, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do that. |
The referee was fine. On neither occasion did he see it as a penalty and from his position I can understand that.
VAR saw the slowed down replay and saw that not only did Davis foul but it was on the line and therefore a penalty. How it didn't look at the foul on Davis and decide it was one too, I don't know. From the ref's angle, I can understand why he didn't give either in real time.
As stated above, the referee does not refer decisions to VAR. VAR advises the referee to have a second look when they believe he has made a clear mistake or not seen something. | |
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| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:31 - Aug 26 with 3405 views | PhilTWTD |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:30 - Aug 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
The referee was fine. On neither occasion did he see it as a penalty and from his position I can understand that.
VAR saw the slowed down replay and saw that not only did Davis foul but it was on the line and therefore a penalty. How it didn't look at the foul on Davis and decide it was one too, I don't know. From the ref's angle, I can understand why he didn't give either in real time.
As stated above, the referee does not refer decisions to VAR. VAR advises the referee to have a second look when they believe he has made a clear mistake or not seen something. |
Kieran said in his post-match comments that VAR had had a look at it, although his comment was a little confusing.
“The fourth official gave a signal that it had been turned down for VAR and they had looked at it. |  | | |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:36 - Aug 26 with 3334 views | Leaky |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:16 - Aug 26 by Europablue |
What are you counting as going against us? The penalty that Man City got was actually a penalty.
The penalty that we should have got was nothing to do with VAR because the ref didn't even use it.
The referee should be held to account, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do that. |
It wasn't the refs fault he didn't give either pen. Var told him to look at Citehs pen. Which he did gave the pen. Var didn't do the same for ours |  | | |
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| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:37 - Aug 26 with 3329 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:31 - Aug 26 by PhilTWTD |
Kieran said in his post-match comments that VAR had had a look at it, although his comment was a little confusing.
“The fourth official gave a signal that it had been turned down for VAR and they had looked at it. |
Technically, aren't VAR watching the whole match and so "taking a look" at everything?
I would love to know their reasoning. | |
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| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:38 - Aug 26 with 3319 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:31 - Aug 26 by PhilTWTD |
Kieran said in his post-match comments that VAR had had a look at it, although his comment was a little confusing.
“The fourth official gave a signal that it had been turned down for VAR and they had looked at it. |
VAR had the advantage of the Davis challenege ending up with the ball out of play, whereas the challenge in Davis resulted in a break to City and we couldn't get the ball off of them.
I think we are going to have to do something to stop the game when it happoens next. Whether that's Morsy making a foul or Davis rolling around like he'd been shot. |  |
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| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:44 - Aug 26 with 3264 views | Wickets |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:26 - Aug 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Dermot Gallagher was an interesting watch. He seemed to say both decisions were right but Warnock rightly pulled him up that if VAR is getting involved in one it has to get involved in the other as well.
Both should have been penalties but they did not affect the final outcome on this occasion. Let's hope they fall for us when it really matters. |
The Ref was in a great position to give what clearly should have been a penalty to us and at 3-2 at half time that is a world of difference to 3-1 . i watched Ref watch also Gallagher started suggesting that VAR was correct to not get involved until as you say Warnock corrected him , the whole panel agreed we should have been given a penalty , for me it always matters . |  | | |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:44 - Aug 26 with 3260 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:38 - Aug 26 by GlasgowBlue |
VAR had the advantage of the Davis challenege ending up with the ball out of play, whereas the challenge in Davis resulted in a break to City and we couldn't get the ball off of them.
I think we are going to have to do something to stop the game when it happoens next. Whether that's Morsy making a foul or Davis rolling around like he'd been shot. |
It's not as if Citeh had scored, though. If they had, it would have been a bigger decision but still shouldn't stop it. There are plenty of times VAR gets involved some time after the incident because it has taken time for the game to stop. | |
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| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 13:05 - Aug 26 with 3135 views | badadski |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:30 - Aug 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
The referee was fine. On neither occasion did he see it as a penalty and from his position I can understand that.
VAR saw the slowed down replay and saw that not only did Davis foul but it was on the line and therefore a penalty. How it didn't look at the foul on Davis and decide it was one too, I don't know. From the ref's angle, I can understand why he didn't give either in real time.
As stated above, the referee does not refer decisions to VAR. VAR advises the referee to have a second look when they believe he has made a clear mistake or not seen something. |
He did - the Man City first pen he blew his whistle and stopped play but didn’t say what it was for and waited for var which is not how it’s supposed to work. Crap ref / they had the foil for a free kick but got the shot away as advantage, it went wide but he still allowed them to have the free kick but guarantee if they scored from the shot he wouldn’t have disallowed and made them have the free kick instead.
He was just a super crap ref like we are used too from last season. It’s going to be long old season if this is what the rest of the games are going to he like | | | |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 13:09 - Aug 26 with 3112 views | Whos_blue |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:44 - Aug 26 by Wickets |
The Ref was in a great position to give what clearly should have been a penalty to us and at 3-2 at half time that is a world of difference to 3-1 . i watched Ref watch also Gallagher started suggesting that VAR was correct to not get involved until as you say Warnock corrected him , the whole panel agreed we should have been given a penalty , for me it always matters . |
Did Gallagher agree in the end too? |  |
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| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 13:22 - Aug 26 with 3054 views | PhilTWTD |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:37 - Aug 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Technically, aren't VAR watching the whole match and so "taking a look" at everything?
I would love to know their reasoning. |
I suppose so, but I assume they give incidents like that more a closer look, which in this case they seem to have done and decided it wasn't worthy of the referee giving it his second look (which to be fair, is just a rubberstamp). | | | |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 13:29 - Aug 26 with 2984 views | Vegtablue |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:37 - Aug 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Technically, aren't VAR watching the whole match and so "taking a look" at everything?
I would love to know their reasoning. |
Yeah seems to be some confusion on the board but you're spot on. | | | |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 13:44 - Aug 26 with 2915 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:13 - Aug 26 by waveneyblue |
I would be genuinely surprised if we get a single one.
The fact that Saturdays wasn't even looked at, tells you everything you need to know about the system. |
Unless you mean the ref didn't look at it, just for clarity here, VAR looks at everything. Whether they push it for a review, is a different matter. |  |
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| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 14:12 - Aug 26 with 2797 views | ReusersTown |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:26 - Aug 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Dermot Gallagher was an interesting watch. He seemed to say both decisions were right but Warnock rightly pulled him up that if VAR is getting involved in one it has to get involved in the other as well.
Both should have been penalties but they did not affect the final outcome on this occasion. Let's hope they fall for us when it really matters. |
Where was this? | | | |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 14:16 - Aug 26 with 2781 views | ellaandred |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:26 - Aug 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Dermot Gallagher was an interesting watch. He seemed to say both decisions were right but Warnock rightly pulled him up that if VAR is getting involved in one it has to get involved in the other as well.
Both should have been penalties but they did not affect the final outcome on this occasion. Let's hope they fall for us when it really matters. |
Is that the same Dermot Gallagher that was twice suspended from refereeing duties due to incompetence ? |  | | |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 14:45 - Aug 26 with 2661 views | Kropotkin123 |
Both penalties, the second one more so. |  |
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| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 14:51 - Aug 26 with 2643 views | AlanG296 |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 13:44 - Aug 26 by JammyDodgerrr |
Unless you mean the ref didn't look at it, just for clarity here, VAR looks at everything. Whether they push it for a review, is a different matter. |
We're used to seeing a referee make the wrong decision about an incident. It's part of the game at all levels from parks up to The Football League. One of the benefits of this league is we get to see two referees make the wrong decision about one incident. | | | |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 15:11 - Aug 26 with 2588 views | BlueBoots |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 13:22 - Aug 26 by PhilTWTD |
I suppose so, but I assume they give incidents like that more a closer look, which in this case they seem to have done and decided it wasn't worthy of the referee giving it his second look (which to be fair, is just a rubberstamp). |
Pretty much confirmed in the match commentary (said that VAR had looked at the foul on Davis, and had told the referee while Man City were breaking that it didn't need checking). But as others have said, how they can do that after looking at the foul committed by Davis and advising the referee to take a look at that one on screen really stinks of big-club bias - suppose it's something we'll have to get used to. Going back to the Liverpool game, also looked a bit fishy that they drew a line on the screen for the Liverpool offside, but didn't for ours! |  |
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| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 16:22 - Aug 26 with 2456 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:44 - Aug 26 by Wickets |
The Ref was in a great position to give what clearly should have been a penalty to us and at 3-2 at half time that is a world of difference to 3-1 . i watched Ref watch also Gallagher started suggesting that VAR was correct to not get involved until as you say Warnock corrected him , the whole panel agreed we should have been given a penalty , for me it always matters . |
My comment about the ref not seeing is the angle he sees it from. I don't think it is clear from the ref's angle how the defender leans into Davis with his hip causing him to go down before the challenge comes in. It is then understandable for the ref to think Davis has gone down too easily with minimal contact. From the other angle and seeing that he is fouled by the defender behind before the challenge comes in makes it a clear penalty as the panel all agreed.
In a sense they all matter, in another sense we wouldn't have got anything from the game anyway. Hopefully a questionable decision will go our way before too long. It seems like we are well overdue several. | |
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| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 16:36 - Aug 26 with 2412 views | BlueNomad |
A couple of years ago Bournemouth cleared a corner and went straight up the other end and scored. Goal was disallowed and a penalty given to the opposition who scored. Therefore, despite the City break the game could have been called back
It was a penalty on Saturday; if it had been at the other end it would have been given and the media would rave about “four-goal Haarland” |  | | |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 17:40 - Aug 26 with 2324 views | Leaky |
| Ipswich 0 VAR 2 on 12:30 - Aug 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
The referee was fine. On neither occasion did he see it as a penalty and from his position I can understand that.
VAR saw the slowed down replay and saw that not only did Davis foul but it was on the line and therefore a penalty. How it didn't look at the foul on Davis and decide it was one too, I don't know. From the ref's angle, I can understand why he didn't give either in real time.
As stated above, the referee does not refer decisions to VAR. VAR advises the referee to have a second look when they believe he has made a clear mistake or not seen something. |
Surely if the ref reviewed it and Davis foul was on the line it should be a free kick on the edge of our penalty area not a pen. They dont give a goal unless the whole ball crosses the line. Surely a penalty should be the same | | | |
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