| Delap clause from the Citeh end 22:13 - Nov 11 with 15239 views | Mullet |
Not sure what this does for us in the summer when we sell him |  |
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| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 22:16 - Nov 11 with 9430 views | FrimleyBlue |
One thing ashton knows and that's making the most out of transfers. With him talking of loads of zeros to even sell delap you'd imagine the buyback will be at least triple the purchase fee minimum. |  |
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| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 22:17 - Nov 11 with 9472 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
It means they get 20% off the fee they pay us.
It will still be the club making 4x what we bought him for, though! |  |
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| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 22:44 - Nov 11 with 9053 views | davblue |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 22:16 - Nov 11 by FrimleyBlue |
One thing ashton knows and that's making the most out of transfers. With him talking of loads of zeros to even sell delap you'd imagine the buyback will be at least triple the purchase fee minimum. |
i would be surprised if it was over 35-40 million. |  | | |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 22:49 - Nov 11 with 9002 views | SheffordBlue |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 22:44 - Nov 11 by davblue |
i would be surprised if it was over 35-40 million. |
If Delap scores the goals that keep us up he'll have been worth £100m to us even if we only get £30m in fees when he leaves us |  |
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| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 22:52 - Nov 11 with 8944 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 22:17 - Nov 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
It means they get 20% off the fee they pay us.
It will still be the club making 4x what we bought him for, though! |
The multiple depends what price the buyout clause is set at!! |  |
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| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:00 - Nov 11 with 8862 views | ReusersTown |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 22:44 - Nov 11 by davblue |
i would be surprised if it was over 35-40 million. |
For a 21 year old with over 10 PL goals? | | | |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:02 - Nov 11 with 8837 views | ReusersTown |
When we sell him? Surely the clause also depends on if we want to sell him! | | | |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:02 - Nov 11 with 8822 views | positivity |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 22:44 - Nov 11 by davblue |
i would be surprised if it was over 35-40 million. |
i doubt we'd sell for that little barring injury/massive drop off of form | |
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| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:05 - Nov 11 with 8760 views | Trequartista |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:02 - Nov 11 by ReusersTown |
When we sell him? Surely the clause also depends on if we want to sell him! |
I don't think we have any choice with a buyback clause. If City wanted him, and he wanted to go, he's gone. I assume they get 20% off the buyback figure as well. |  |
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| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:08 - Nov 11 with 8700 views | positivity |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:05 - Nov 11 by Trequartista |
I don't think we have any choice with a buyback clause. If City wanted him, and he wanted to go, he's gone. I assume they get 20% off the buyback figure as well. |
i thought the buyback clause was if we agreed to sell him, they can match the figure of the buying club (and obviously pay 20% less)? | |
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| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:18 - Nov 11 with 8598 views | davblue |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:02 - Nov 11 by positivity |
i doubt we'd sell for that little barring injury/massive drop off of form |
Why would city put their buy back clause at 60-70 million?
They are going to want it to be a reasonable price for them, so it’s not cost restrictive for them. | | | |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:20 - Nov 11 with 8584 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 22:44 - Nov 11 by davblue |
i would be surprised if it was over 35-40 million. |
You’re HUGELY underestimating the market when it comes to premier league goal scorers. Add the fact he’s a striker, young and English and it’s 60m |  |
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| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:22 - Nov 11 with 8536 views | positivity |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:18 - Nov 11 by davblue |
Why would city put their buy back clause at 60-70 million?
They are going to want it to be a reasonable price for them, so it’s not cost restrictive for them. |
see above, i was under the impression that the clause was they get to match the selling fee (and get a 20% discount), rather than a particular price (similar to the philogene/villa deal)? | |
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| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:24 - Nov 11 with 8515 views | Vegtablue |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:00 - Nov 11 by ReusersTown |
For a 21 year old with over 10 PL goals? |
He hadn't scored the goals in the summer. 😅 And buy-back = pre-agreed release clause more often than not, so our feelings would be irrelevant if it's one of those and Delap would have pre-agreed his return City salary, should they activate the clause. The buy-back clause wouldn't include a 20% discount though; it would be a set amount. The 20% would be a separate clause in the event we sell to a different team.
On Frimley's point, Ashton and McKenna did great work convincing him to join us rather than Southampton, as we both met City's transfer terms. It looks more likely to me that two promoted clubs were competing with each other for the services of an exciting young talent, who we hope will make a huge contribution to keeping us up, rather than us both holding the negotiating cards against City and engineering really preferable terms for ourselves. | | | |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:24 - Nov 11 with 8512 views | davblue |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:00 - Nov 11 by ReusersTown |
For a 21 year old with over 10 PL goals? |
City having that buy back if it’s set at a fixed fee is going to be attractive to them otherwise what’s the point in them having it?
It it’s a matching fee then fine, they have to match any fee offered then it’s different. Philogene albeit in the summer was only 18 million if I recall correctly, so it was attractive to Villa to bring him back.
Solanke went for 65 million in the summer and he’s played in the prem for 4 or 5 years with one good scoring season, so I think the 35-40 million range for City to buy him back is probably not out of the realms of being realistic. If another club come in for him, then it might well be up at 50 or so million that they would have to go to. | | | |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:24 - Nov 11 with 8504 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:20 - Nov 11 by The_Romford_Blue |
You’re HUGELY underestimating the market when it comes to premier league goal scorers. Add the fact he’s a striker, young and English and it’s 60m |
He's not. He is saying the buyback clause has already likely set the price at that. (It's speculation but if they did manage to agree a buyback then it's unlikely to be crazy higher. Maybe £50 million tops).
It would be bad news for us but it might have been how we managed to get the deal done. | |
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| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:26 - Nov 11 with 8478 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:08 - Nov 11 by positivity |
i thought the buyback clause was if we agreed to sell him, they can match the figure of the buying club (and obviously pay 20% less)? |
No, thats a matching clause. Not a buy back clause.
Thhink youre getting confused with the Philogene discussion. | |
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| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:27 - Nov 11 with 8462 views | davblue |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:20 - Nov 11 by The_Romford_Blue |
You’re HUGELY underestimating the market when it comes to premier league goal scorers. Add the fact he’s a striker, young and English and it’s 60m |
City aren’t going to stick a 60 million pound fee buy back clause, there’s no value in that for them.
I might be wrong, can’t see it being at that level. If another club come in for him we might get 60 million. | | | |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:30 - Nov 11 with 8390 views | davblue |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:22 - Nov 11 by positivity |
see above, i was under the impression that the clause was they get to match the selling fee (and get a 20% discount), rather than a particular price (similar to the philogene/villa deal)? |
No idea exactly what it is but let’s hope he does the business for the whole season to keep us up and then see what happens! | | | |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:31 - Nov 11 with 8370 views | positivity |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:26 - Nov 11 by Marshalls_Mullet |
No, thats a matching clause. Not a buy back clause.
Thhink youre getting confused with the Philogene discussion. |
you may well be right, i'll wait until phil comes in with the details...
even with the worst case scenario (forced sell for 30m-odd in the summer), we'll have made a decent profit and get a better chance at staying up. effectively a loan where man city are paying us instead of vice versa! | |
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| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:33 - Nov 11 with 8339 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:31 - Nov 11 by positivity |
you may well be right, i'll wait until phil comes in with the details...
even with the worst case scenario (forced sell for 30m-odd in the summer), we'll have made a decent profit and get a better chance at staying up. effectively a loan where man city are paying us instead of vice versa! |
I am right. No need to wait.
There may well be a specific window of time during which they can operate it. | |
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| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:43 - Nov 11 with 8235 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:24 - Nov 11 by davblue |
City having that buy back if it’s set at a fixed fee is going to be attractive to them otherwise what’s the point in them having it?
It it’s a matching fee then fine, they have to match any fee offered then it’s different. Philogene albeit in the summer was only 18 million if I recall correctly, so it was attractive to Villa to bring him back.
Solanke went for 65 million in the summer and he’s played in the prem for 4 or 5 years with one good scoring season, so I think the 35-40 million range for City to buy him back is probably not out of the realms of being realistic. If another club come in for him, then it might well be up at 50 or so million that they would have to go to. |
City have a buy back clause, another club being interested doesnt change the fee they would pay. It will be a fixed price within the sales contract. | |
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| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 00:02 - Nov 12 with 8096 views | ReusersTown |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:24 - Nov 11 by davblue |
City having that buy back if it’s set at a fixed fee is going to be attractive to them otherwise what’s the point in them having it?
It it’s a matching fee then fine, they have to match any fee offered then it’s different. Philogene albeit in the summer was only 18 million if I recall correctly, so it was attractive to Villa to bring him back.
Solanke went for 65 million in the summer and he’s played in the prem for 4 or 5 years with one good scoring season, so I think the 35-40 million range for City to buy him back is probably not out of the realms of being realistic. If another club come in for him, then it might well be up at 50 or so million that they would have to go to. |
Exactly, Solanke is now 27 with one good goalscoring season at the point of sale. Delap is 22, if he meets similar numbers in his first season he is vastly more valuable.The buyback could be more about preventing him going elsewhere, as it tended to be in the past, .There were two clubs in this negotiation. | | | |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 00:03 - Nov 12 with 8090 views | ReusersTown |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:24 - Nov 11 by Vegtablue |
He hadn't scored the goals in the summer. 😅 And buy-back = pre-agreed release clause more often than not, so our feelings would be irrelevant if it's one of those and Delap would have pre-agreed his return City salary, should they activate the clause. The buy-back clause wouldn't include a 20% discount though; it would be a set amount. The 20% would be a separate clause in the event we sell to a different team.
On Frimley's point, Ashton and McKenna did great work convincing him to join us rather than Southampton, as we both met City's transfer terms. It looks more likely to me that two promoted clubs were competing with each other for the services of an exciting young talent, who we hope will make a huge contribution to keeping us up, rather than us both holding the negotiating cards against City and engineering really preferable terms for ourselves. |
"And buy-back = pre-agreed release clause more often than not" any recent examples? I can't think of any | | | |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 00:06 - Nov 12 with 8070 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Delap clause from the Citeh end on 23:20 - Nov 11 by The_Romford_Blue |
You’re HUGELY underestimating the market when it comes to premier league goal scorers. Add the fact he’s a striker, young and English and it’s 60m |
I think he was saying the buy back clause is likely to be set at £35-40m. | |
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