| Playing Palace at the wrong time? 08:13 - Dec 1 with 3237 views | ITFCBlues |
Almost fully fit squad now and key players back. Just play Toon off the park.
Can see our fans turning up expecting a win but this is a good Palace side currently hugely underachieving. Two England internationals in that side that played today and some other very good players.
Think it's a game at home that we've got to try and win, but it'll be far from easy. |  |
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 08:19 - Dec 1 with 3176 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
By hook or crook we have to beat Palace at home on Tuesday.
The advantage for us is most of our squad are used to playing Tue and Sat games and Palace as you said ran themselves into the ground against Newcastle for 98 mins. |  | | |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 08:41 - Dec 1 with 3073 views | TractorWood |
The bottom 6 mini league has some massive games in December. Hopefully we can turn up and get a couple of goals early. |  |
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 08:45 - Dec 1 with 3037 views | BloomBlue |
We need to win, because we need a home win. If not it starts to become a heavy weight around our necks, and the longer it goes the more it impacts confidence. Ultimately it's our home form which will decide our survival future. |  | | |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 08:46 - Dec 1 with 3030 views | Churchman |
It does feel like luck is against us at the moment. Our squad gets weaker by the game, others (Palace) get stronger. A season ticket Palace golf acquaintance told me the other day that the only reason they were anywhere near the drop zone was injuries. Having seen how good they were back end of last season, I’m inclined to agree.
Man Utd? We’d have undoubtably had a better chance had Ten Hag still been in charge. Players are inevitably invigorated by a new manager and all that goes with it.
Referees - the balance of decisions have mostly gone against us as you’d expect given we are fodder.
Things will change as over a long season stuff tends to even itself out.
I agree that we are playing CP at the wrong time. One paltry win in thirteen? This is a bit of a must win in my opinion. |  | | |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 08:51 - Dec 1 with 3004 views | Illinoisblue |
Who among us would be expecting a win? 11th straight year in the Prem for Palace. |  |
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 09:00 - Dec 1 with 2964 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 08:51 - Dec 1 by Illinoisblue |
Who among us would be expecting a win? 11th straight year in the Prem for Palace. |
I would think a decent sized chunk of our fanbase would see this as a home win on paper.
11 years blimey. | | | |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 09:09 - Dec 1 with 2917 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 09:00 - Dec 1 by WolfieAtTheBack |
I would think a decent sized chunk of our fanbase would see this as a home win on paper.
11 years blimey. |
It's the Damien Delaney factor.
They went up once he took Palace by the scruff of the neck after our fans booed him out of town. |  |
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 09:12 - Dec 1 with 2886 views | MK1 |
Bring it on. We are playing well and need to fear no one. |  |
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 09:13 - Dec 1 with 2876 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 09:09 - Dec 1 by Lord_Lucan |
It's the Damien Delaney factor.
They went up once he took Palace by the scruff of the neck after our fans booed him out of town. |
Didn't Delaney nearly lose his life over a bleed on his legs or something along those lines?
Then he moved to Palace... | | | |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 09:16 - Dec 1 with 2843 views | HighgateBlue |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 08:45 - Dec 1 by BloomBlue |
We need to win, because we need a home win. If not it starts to become a heavy weight around our necks, and the longer it goes the more it impacts confidence. Ultimately it's our home form which will decide our survival future. |
That is all true.
But also in pure arithmetical terms, we are the only team without a home win, and if we don't beat any of the teams around us at home, we are just not going to pick up enough points, regardless of whether that failure has an impact on morale/confidence.
The impression given is that this is a really tight knit group which Kieran has fostered intentionally to be 'together' and keep their heads up. So I hope that no rot will set in in terms of confidence or togetherness. But dear me, December and only one win out of 13, no wins at home. These are stats that plainly have relegation written all over them. Which is frustrating, because we are always competing, and the margins are fine fine margins. |  | | |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 09:17 - Dec 1 with 2841 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 09:13 - Dec 1 by WolfieAtTheBack |
Didn't Delaney nearly lose his life over a bleed on his legs or something along those lines?
Then he moved to Palace... |
He had a blood clot.
He still got booed out of town though. | |
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 09:32 - Dec 1 with 2752 views | Linners |
Every team we play this season is going to be packed with internationals and right now we'll be second favourites every game. But that was true at Spurs and at home against Villa and United. We've just to give it our best shot, supporters included, and see where we end up.
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 10:14 - Dec 1 with 2623 views | bournemouthblue |
Both Palace and Wolves are must not lose games, we can't be giving up points to them
These games are as big as they get! |  |
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 10:16 - Dec 1 with 2617 views | bournemouthblue |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 09:00 - Dec 1 by WolfieAtTheBack |
I would think a decent sized chunk of our fanbase would see this as a home win on paper.
11 years blimey. |
It's mad when you think about it, they were Championship regulars most seasons before that [Post edited 1 Dec 2024 10:17]
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 10:32 - Dec 1 with 2488 views | Pinewoodblue |
We need to take a leaf out of Brentford’s book.
All the so called experts are waxing lyrical about their home form but look at where their points have come from. They have won 6 home games , drawn one and only picked up one point away from home.
Every point has been gained against teams in the bottom eight, winning at home against all the bottom five and draws against West Ham & Everton.
If we want to comfortably survive we have to beat those teams around us in the table. For peace of mind they are must win games. |  |
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 11:04 - Dec 1 with 2320 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 10:32 - Dec 1 by Pinewoodblue |
We need to take a leaf out of Brentford’s book.
All the so called experts are waxing lyrical about their home form but look at where their points have come from. They have won 6 home games , drawn one and only picked up one point away from home.
Every point has been gained against teams in the bottom eight, winning at home against all the bottom five and draws against West Ham & Everton.
If we want to comfortably survive we have to beat those teams around us in the table. For peace of mind they are must win games. |
Look at Everton. Beat us and palace. Lost to Southampton. Only reason they still aren't in the bottom 3.
We've just got to win the relegation league. But to do that you've got to beat those around you. |  |
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 11:06 - Dec 1 with 2311 views | Reuser_is_God |
Forest probably thought they were playing us at the wrong time.
They’d lost 2 in a row whereas we’d got results against Spurs & United. |  |
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 11:12 - Dec 1 with 2277 views | BlueOura |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 10:32 - Dec 1 by Pinewoodblue |
We need to take a leaf out of Brentford’s book.
All the so called experts are waxing lyrical about their home form but look at where their points have come from. They have won 6 home games , drawn one and only picked up one point away from home.
Every point has been gained against teams in the bottom eight, winning at home against all the bottom five and draws against West Ham & Everton.
If we want to comfortably survive we have to beat those teams around us in the table. For peace of mind they are must win games. |
Its true that we need to win more home games but it isn't that easy. Brentford are an established prem side and simply have better players than us so are better equipped to win home games. We were always going to be up against it this season unfortuantely. |  | | |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 12:00 - Dec 1 with 2201 views | patrickswell |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 09:16 - Dec 1 by HighgateBlue |
That is all true.
But also in pure arithmetical terms, we are the only team without a home win, and if we don't beat any of the teams around us at home, we are just not going to pick up enough points, regardless of whether that failure has an impact on morale/confidence.
The impression given is that this is a really tight knit group which Kieran has fostered intentionally to be 'together' and keep their heads up. So I hope that no rot will set in in terms of confidence or togetherness. But dear me, December and only one win out of 13, no wins at home. These are stats that plainly have relegation written all over them. Which is frustrating, because we are always competing, and the margins are fine fine margins. |
We have avoided defeat in half of our matches though. 1 win in 13 isn’t great, but there are plenty of sides down there with us, we aren’t cut adrift and we’ve come out of our last 3 matches before yesterday, with a good platform to attack the rest of the season.
It’s unlikely to happen, but if we keep posting 5 point returns in 4 game blocks over the remainder of the season, we will reach 40 points. Easier said than done, but that ought to be our minimum target over the rest of the season. [Post edited 1 Dec 2024 12:02]
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 12:34 - Dec 1 with 2107 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 11:12 - Dec 1 by BlueOura |
Its true that we need to win more home games but it isn't that easy. Brentford are an established prem side and simply have better players than us so are better equipped to win home games. We were always going to be up against it this season unfortuantely. |
Seven of our nine points have come from games against teams currently in the top twelve positions in the league.
Brentford have zero points from games against those same teams.
We need to have more belief against those teams around us in the table. | |
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 14:34 - Dec 1 with 1947 views | Facefacts |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 12:34 - Dec 1 by Pinewoodblue |
Seven of our nine points have come from games against teams currently in the top twelve positions in the league.
Brentford have zero points from games against those same teams.
We need to have more belief against those teams around us in the table. |
The lower ranked teams do a lot more homework on us. They set up to try to nullify us.
The higher ranked don't think they need to bother, like Spurs, assuming their quality will win through. It was a bit the same first half against Liverpool, changed their defender at HT. VAR helps them out too.
Reminds me of the Man Utd game in August 2000 at PR where they were sooo lucky to get a point from us. 1 - 1. It's always been the same. |  | | |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 17:18 - Dec 1 with 1698 views | Denny32 |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 08:46 - Dec 1 by Churchman |
It does feel like luck is against us at the moment. Our squad gets weaker by the game, others (Palace) get stronger. A season ticket Palace golf acquaintance told me the other day that the only reason they were anywhere near the drop zone was injuries. Having seen how good they were back end of last season, I’m inclined to agree.
Man Utd? We’d have undoubtably had a better chance had Ten Hag still been in charge. Players are inevitably invigorated by a new manager and all that goes with it.
Referees - the balance of decisions have mostly gone against us as you’d expect given we are fodder.
Things will change as over a long season stuff tends to even itself out.
I agree that we are playing CP at the wrong time. One paltry win in thirteen? This is a bit of a must win in my opinion. |
Difference is other clubs have experienced Premier players to cone in to cover for 1st team players out injured..we do not have that luxury... | | | |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 17:43 - Dec 1 with 1628 views | pointofblue |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 17:18 - Dec 1 by Denny32 |
Difference is other clubs have experienced Premier players to cone in to cover for 1st team players out injured..we do not have that luxury... |
Though Palace had so many injuries they were stretched themselves. Think they had a centre back and a youth player in midfield for one league match recently? | |
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 19:15 - Dec 1 with 1481 views | Vaughan8 |
| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 17:43 - Dec 1 by pointofblue |
Though Palace had so many injuries they were stretched themselves. Think they had a centre back and a youth player in midfield for one league match recently? |
Yeah they did but they had other players on the bench that game (just looking up...............) Daucoure, Schlupp, Ward, Richards. Maybe they couldn't last more than 30 mins.
Other than Eze, they've not had that many long term injuries have they?
Anyway, We have to treat most (if not all) Home games as winnable. Palace and Bournemouth (though I've seen them a few times and they look good) most certainly are. [Post edited 1 Dec 2024 19:16]
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| Playing Palace at the wrong time? on 21:21 - Dec 1 with 1223 views | jayessess |
Are they better than Villa, Fulham, Spurs, Man U, Brighton? If not, we've got to consider ourselves in with a shout, haven't we? |  |
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