| Paul Merson on 11:41 - Apr 29 with 3710 views | positivity |
cloud cuckoo land, play route one and don't ever make any mistakes? they'd be annihilated
he should stick to dancing, he's better at that |  |
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| Lollers on 11:41 - Apr 29 with 3709 views | Dyland |
Even by Merson's standards that's a load of banal hot air. He's an incredibly bad pundit and even I could do an equal or not much worse job. He offers absolutely no original insight whatsoever. |  |
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| Paul Merson on 11:43 - Apr 29 with 3668 views | JakeITFC |
He knows absolutely nothing about anything, least of all how we setup and play. |  | | |
| Paul Merson on 11:48 - Apr 29 with 3620 views | _clive_baker_ |
Someone needs to drop McKenna an email and let him know we should've just focussed on finishing 17th. 17th, 17th, 17th.
Remarkable Merson never had a career in management really, its a piece of piss.
Tongue out of cheek there's an element of sense in what he's saying re. style, certainly when you watched Southampton under Martin it was ludicrous at times. Fair play for sticking to your principles and all that but going up and being a significantly crapper version of the likes of Brighton likely isn't going to get you very far. I'm not sure that's necessarily true of our approach though, its a bit of a myth. We've mixed it up plenty this season. We were never going to Mike Bassett our way to 40+ points, the outcome would be the same. |  | | |
| Paul Merson on 11:50 - Apr 29 with 3589 views | SE1blue |
Can’t believe the EADT have turned that into an actual article.
This reads like listening to a boring bloke down the pub. |  |
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| Paul Merson on 11:55 - Apr 29 with 3544 views | Cotty |
What I don't like about a lot of pundits is how sneery they are about promoted clubs getting relegated so quickly. They simply fail to understand how the premier league money has made it virtually impossible to break into the club in the last few years. |  | | |
| Paul Merson on 12:00 - Apr 29 with 3453 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Paul Merson on 11:55 - Apr 29 by Cotty |
What I don't like about a lot of pundits is how sneery they are about promoted clubs getting relegated so quickly. They simply fail to understand how the premier league money has made it virtually impossible to break into the club in the last few years. |
The last 6 promoted teams have all gone straight back down with a (likely) maximum of 26 points but yeah its their fault, nothing to do with the anti-competitive nature of the PL and wealth disparity at all. | | | |
| Paul Merson on 12:01 - Apr 29 with 3421 views | SE1blue |
| Paul Merson on 11:55 - Apr 29 by Cotty |
What I don't like about a lot of pundits is how sneery they are about promoted clubs getting relegated so quickly. They simply fail to understand how the premier league money has made it virtually impossible to break into the club in the last few years. |
I agree. Merson saying you need to finish 17th and get another £100m… The football is no longer about tactics, momentum or underdog surprise results, it’s purely finance that decides who wins and loses.
He’d be better off drawing attention to that than picking holes in teams who had virtually no chance of staying up. | |
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| Paul Merson on 12:03 - Apr 29 with 3385 views | Bobbychase |
There is a general issue with most pundits on channels like Sky/Talksport in that they basically are obsessed with spending money and "going for it", ignoring the modern reality of the widening gap between the Prem and the Championship, and also the penalties for overstretching - see Forest and Everton points deductions and Leicester transfer embargo.
The English football pyramid is collapsing under the weight of the greed of the top division but that's too complicated a subject to explore so let's just go with "they should have played better/spent more". |  |
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| Paul Merson on 12:11 - Apr 29 with 3289 views | weepingx2018 |
i cant be bothered to trawl thru the adverts | | | |
| Paul Merson on 12:16 - Apr 29 with 3219 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Paul Merson on 11:55 - Apr 29 by Cotty |
What I don't like about a lot of pundits is how sneery they are about promoted clubs getting relegated so quickly. They simply fail to understand how the premier league money has made it virtually impossible to break into the club in the last few years. |
Worse than the sneery pundits is our so called fans that are just as, if not more so, sneery. They seem to take pleasure out of all the negativity. So very, very sad... | | | |
| Paul Merson on 13:40 - Apr 29 with 2819 views | sjg |
A lot of people on here seem to think they know better than every pundit who has given an opinion on us. If they're all saying the same thing, they might have a point | | | |
| Paul Merson on 13:54 - Apr 29 with 2685 views | iamatractorboy |
| Paul Merson on 11:55 - Apr 29 by Cotty |
What I don't like about a lot of pundits is how sneery they are about promoted clubs getting relegated so quickly. They simply fail to understand how the premier league money has made it virtually impossible to break into the club in the last few years. |
Merson works for Sky so the money subject will be completely off limits. | | | |
| Paul Merson on 13:55 - Apr 29 with 2659 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Paul Merson on 13:40 - Apr 29 by sjg |
A lot of people on here seem to think they know better than every pundit who has given an opinion on us. If they're all saying the same thing, they might have a point |
Not like you to take the anti-Ipswich stance. |  |
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| Paul Merson on 13:56 - Apr 29 with 2649 views | positivity |
| Paul Merson on 13:40 - Apr 29 by sjg |
A lot of people on here seem to think they know better than every pundit who has given an opinion on us. If they're all saying the same thing, they might have a point |
"If they're all saying the same thing, they might have a point"
however, they don't all say the same thig, so by your logic... | |
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| Paul Merson on 14:02 - Apr 29 with 2572 views | sjg |
| Paul Merson on 13:55 - Apr 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Not like you to take the anti-Ipswich stance. |
There's nothing anti-Ipswich in recognising that we made mistakes this year | | | |
| Paul Merson on 14:05 - Apr 29 with 2527 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Paul Merson on 13:56 - Apr 29 by positivity |
"If they're all saying the same thing, they might have a point"
however, they don't all say the same thig, so by your logic... |
Precisely - it's cherry-picking to claim they are all saying the same. There's also a lack of credibility with pundits that are ex-players with zero managerial success on their CVs (or old school managers who haven't been relevant for a decade or more). | | | |
| Paul Merson on 14:06 - Apr 29 with 2527 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Paul Merson on 14:02 - Apr 29 by sjg |
There's nothing anti-Ipswich in recognising that we made mistakes this year |
If we "made mistakes this year" were all Merson and the likes of you ever said, you'd have a point. But they weren't and you don't. Good work in building a straw man though. | |
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| Paul Merson on 14:07 - Apr 29 with 2506 views | positivity |
| Paul Merson on 14:02 - Apr 29 by sjg |
There's nothing anti-Ipswich in recognising that we made mistakes this year |
every team in every league has made mistakes.
when paul merson is saying the solution is to boot it away from your box, not make any mistakes and magically think your way to 17th, then he doesn't have a point! | |
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| Paul Merson on 14:07 - Apr 29 with 2497 views | textbackup |
| Paul Merson on 11:43 - Apr 29 by JakeITFC |
He knows absolutely nothing about anything, least of all how we setup and play. |
Only thing he’s good at is telling razor ruddock to take a bra off his head and calm down on the beers. |  |
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| Paul Merson on 14:11 - Apr 29 with 2481 views | Churchman |
Merson is as thick as mince, was washed up as a player over 20 years ago and has nothing worthwhile to say. I can only think Sky employ him because they think, as resident halfwit, he is entertaining - which he isn’t.
I presume that if Merson is ‘pretty spot on’ the OP would like to see him installed as manager instead of McKenna? I wouldn’t. |  | | |
| Paul Merson on 14:12 - Apr 29 with 2475 views | olimar |
Hes not really offering any sort of answer though.
He seems to be saying we should have changed our approach, but its pretty evident we already did that- we dont play the way we played in the Championship, or even in the first few months of this season.
He seems to suggest that playing out from the back leads to errors, presumably because hes seen a handful of goals like that, but how many goals can we point to as a result of mistakes playing out from the back? A handful at most and not many that affected the result (maybe more of them last year).
So its fine saying our approach was wrong, but what approach should we have taken and how would that influence our recruitment when even the existing players we had when we got promoted would need completely replacing too? Craig Bellamy neatly explained how Burnley knew this last season and attempted to change it but the cost of the players they needed was too high. | | | |
| Paul Merson on 14:12 - Apr 29 with 2469 views | sjg |
| Paul Merson on 14:06 - Apr 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
If we "made mistakes this year" were all Merson and the likes of you ever said, you'd have a point. But they weren't and you don't. Good work in building a straw man though. |
No I have been consistent throughout the season in what I think our mistakes are. We had a massive advantage in having a squad that had come up through the divisions, knew the way each other played, were direct and able to adapt. We got rid of that in bringing in too many starters that were no better than what we had, and made this mistake again in January.
When it became clear that these players were unable to play the way we wanted to, we continued to take the same approach at home despite having evidence of our success in a low block, hence why the only team that have ever gained fewer points than us this season at home are Southampton this season (we are 1 point behind that Derby team).
Look forward to not receiving an actual response again and you going after the way I've phrased something | | | |
| Paul Merso on 14:57 - Apr 29 with 2263 views | bluefunk |
| Paul Merson on 14:12 - Apr 29 by sjg |
No I have been consistent throughout the season in what I think our mistakes are. We had a massive advantage in having a squad that had come up through the divisions, knew the way each other played, were direct and able to adapt. We got rid of that in bringing in too many starters that were no better than what we had, and made this mistake again in January.
When it became clear that these players were unable to play the way we wanted to, we continued to take the same approach at home despite having evidence of our success in a low block, hence why the only team that have ever gained fewer points than us this season at home are Southampton this season (we are 1 point behind that Derby team).
Look forward to not receiving an actual response again and you going after the way I've phrased something |
Ok I’ll bite
Having League One/Championship players who knew each other and the way we played was minimal advantage compared to the the teams who had the same thing with players of Premier League standard. Exactly how would that pan out over the season had we not at least tried to strengthen the squad? While gelling a squad together is its own problem, we at least have both saleable assets and a stronger squad.
“No better than what we had”? It’s ann opinion but Imagine Jackson in the Premier League? Much as I’m grateful for what he did for us, I don’t think so.
When you say we “were direct” do you mean our style of play? If so, that’s nonsense. You have a point about the low block, although we haven’t always had players available to use it effectively.
You (and most pundits) ignore the injuries we’ve suffered, I think we’ve had players who’ve missed a total of 188 matches through injury through the squad, that’s the equivalent of 5 players missing a whole season, 10 a half a season, whatever way you cut it that’s a huge blow to a squad that was thin on proven Premier League experience.
Also ignored is the cost of acquiring that experience, and the difficulty of persuading those players to move to a newly promoted side.
You’re entitled to your opinion, but let’s have some balance. |  | | |
| Paul Merso on 15:02 - Apr 29 with 2213 views | sjg |
| Paul Merso on 14:57 - Apr 29 by bluefunk |
Ok I’ll bite
Having League One/Championship players who knew each other and the way we played was minimal advantage compared to the the teams who had the same thing with players of Premier League standard. Exactly how would that pan out over the season had we not at least tried to strengthen the squad? While gelling a squad together is its own problem, we at least have both saleable assets and a stronger squad.
“No better than what we had”? It’s ann opinion but Imagine Jackson in the Premier League? Much as I’m grateful for what he did for us, I don’t think so.
When you say we “were direct” do you mean our style of play? If so, that’s nonsense. You have a point about the low block, although we haven’t always had players available to use it effectively.
You (and most pundits) ignore the injuries we’ve suffered, I think we’ve had players who’ve missed a total of 188 matches through injury through the squad, that’s the equivalent of 5 players missing a whole season, 10 a half a season, whatever way you cut it that’s a huge blow to a squad that was thin on proven Premier League experience.
Also ignored is the cost of acquiring that experience, and the difficulty of persuading those players to move to a newly promoted side.
You’re entitled to your opinion, but let’s have some balance. |
I didn't say don't try to strengthen the squad, I said don't replace a load of starters at once - again, Jackson was not a starter. Wouldn't have had a problem with 2 or 3 new starters and improvements in depth who had to work their way in, but to replace at the rate we did and just chuck the new lads in was silly.
Nice one on the low block, and I do think we were more direct in the Championship so yes that is what I'm referring to
Injuries are out of our control
We could have acquired experience had we bought a lower volume of players as I have suggested above [Post edited 29 Apr 15:19]
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