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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump 08:47 - Apr 24 with 20062 viewsBluerunner

If you are a committed Trump hater, this is not for you so best skip it.

The article in the link below outlines how the left spied on its enemies and then on Trump, his campaign and presidency.

This is complicated but worth the effort. You don't have to understand every reference on a first reading. You will still get valuable information not available in the US/UK media.

The material at the Conservative Tree House is sound. You can follow on Twitter @TheLastRefuge2.

This article explains:

1) the Obama/Holder misuse of Internal Revenue Service data (Mueller was FBI director at the time!).

2) the misuse of the National Security Agency MAINWAY database enquiry system.

3) Access to the NSA was shut off in April 2016 and that same month Hillary Clinton hired Fusion-GPS to do research and put together the fake dossier. Coincidence? No.

The FBI tried to get a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court warrant to intercept communications. This was refused at least twice. The FBI then introduced the fake Fusion-GPS arranged Steele Dossier as evidence to the court and got their warrant on 21/10/2016. The warrant was extended January, April and June 2017. Just let that sink in; the FBI / Special Counsel Mueller were spying on the President.

A FISA warrant was important because it authorises all future and past surveillance. Thus cloaking the historic wrongdoing. It allows "2 hops" i.e. surveillance on everyone in contact with the subject and then all those in contact with those contacts. In Washington that is a lot of people.

Note the bullet points at the end of the post. Unredact, declassify and let the sun shine in on everything. You can't argue with that.

The blog has a Christian angle. If this is not to your taste, ignore it. Don't miss the excellent research.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/04/23/the-obama-use-of-fisa-702-as-a-d

Sorry for the political post. I do read the Forum on football but don't feel confident to comment. By the way I was in Churchmans on 28th April 1962. That was good!
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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 08:59 - Apr 24 with 6441 viewsWeWereZombies

I am not going to wade into this link you have posted but isn't US politics more about Democrat vs. Republican rather than left vs, right? All an undignified scramble for power but then politics is a dirty business. And the FBI and IRS would not have needed to make such a concerted effort to find things out if Trump had been as open about his affairs (sic) as previous presidents.

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 09:28 - Apr 24 with 6390 viewsGuthrum

There's a leap of logic in there. It starts by setting up a scenario of large numbers of non-compliant contractor searches on NSA systems, then makes an assumption without evidence that these were related to Trump and his campaign. It finally tries to justify that by alluding to a large number of classified documents which the authors would like the reader to believe contain the proof they want.

The period of the massed searches - 2015-16, but referring back to 2012 - also covers a period of intensive intelligence community activity in response to the rise of Islamic State and various domestic terrorist threats and actions within the USA (and therefore under the purview of the FBI) related to that. Why would the Obama administration be wasting time and resources chasing Trump long before he even emerged as a realistic candidate for the Presidency (February 2016 at the earliest)?

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 09:30 - Apr 24 with 6368 viewsSwansea_Blue

Everybody should be a Trump hater. He's a liar, a cheat, a bigot and worse. If you think humans should have morals, then you should be against everything Trump is and stands for.

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 09:42 - Apr 24 with 6350 viewsStokieBlue

"The material at the Conservative Tree House is sound. You can follow on Twitter @TheLastRefuge2."

It's a site for fake news and agenda pushing. Who are you to decide it's "sound". I can only assume that by sound you mean it agrees with your worldview and in that one point is the core of the issue we have as a society at the moment.

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 09:54 - Apr 24 with 6306 views26_Paz

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 09:30 - Apr 24 by Swansea_Blue

Everybody should be a Trump hater. He's a liar, a cheat, a bigot and worse. If you think humans should have morals, then you should be against everything Trump is and stands for.


I love Trump and wish we had someone like him here. MAGA.

The Paz Man

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 10:00 - Apr 24 with 6304 viewsjaykay

strange you" sorry for the political post ", are not all your posts on this forum been political ?
if you were there in 62 i would have thought you would have been confident to make a football post by now. you haven't been shy in posting other posts.

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 10:02 - Apr 24 with 6306 viewsGuthrum

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 09:54 - Apr 24 by 26_Paz

I love Trump and wish we had someone like him here. MAGA.


Do you love Trump or do you love what he pretends to be - a champion of the little man against the government, an upholder of traditional values, a restorer of prosperity? None of his previous personal or business life really conforms to that.

It's just a shame that demagogues with money can get their slogans on TV and themselves into power rather than political activists with a genuine, deep rooted social conscience.

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 10:09 - Apr 24 with 6284 viewsfooters

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 09:54 - Apr 24 by 26_Paz

I love Trump and wish we had someone like him here. MAGA.


We do. He's called Nigel Farage and he's a massive wingnut.

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 10:12 - Apr 24 with 6280 viewsDarth_Koont

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 10:02 - Apr 24 by Guthrum

Do you love Trump or do you love what he pretends to be - a champion of the little man against the government, an upholder of traditional values, a restorer of prosperity? None of his previous personal or business life really conforms to that.

It's just a shame that demagogues with money can get their slogans on TV and themselves into power rather than political activists with a genuine, deep rooted social conscience.


Indeed. It takes a powerful cocktail of anger, ignorance and propaganda to think Trump is a man who has ordinary Americans' best interests at heart.

As you say, he's never shown that in his lifetime and only talks about it now to seize power. Seems amazing that George W can now be seen as a dignified and honourable statesman in comparison.

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 10:12 - Apr 24 with 6281 viewsFreddies_Ears

"Unredact". Yes, let's start with the Mueller report, so we know what it actually says.

" let the sun shine in". Yes, let's start with Trump's tax returns. Every other recent president has published their's, so why is Trump different?

Oh.
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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 11:09 - Apr 24 with 6206 views26_Paz

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 10:02 - Apr 24 by Guthrum

Do you love Trump or do you love what he pretends to be - a champion of the little man against the government, an upholder of traditional values, a restorer of prosperity? None of his previous personal or business life really conforms to that.

It's just a shame that demagogues with money can get their slogans on TV and themselves into power rather than political activists with a genuine, deep rooted social conscience.


I love the way he tells things like they are, unlike any politicians in the UK (except Farage)

The Paz Man

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 11:20 - Apr 24 with 6186 viewsNo9

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 09:54 - Apr 24 by 26_Paz

I love Trump and wish we had someone like him here. MAGA.


Trump is no more than a cheap TV showman who can sucker some of the public.
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Guessing you won't get a response to this (n/t) on 11:24 - Apr 24 with 6185 viewsDyland

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 09:28 - Apr 24 by Guthrum

There's a leap of logic in there. It starts by setting up a scenario of large numbers of non-compliant contractor searches on NSA systems, then makes an assumption without evidence that these were related to Trump and his campaign. It finally tries to justify that by alluding to a large number of classified documents which the authors would like the reader to believe contain the proof they want.

The period of the massed searches - 2015-16, but referring back to 2012 - also covers a period of intensive intelligence community activity in response to the rise of Islamic State and various domestic terrorist threats and actions within the USA (and therefore under the purview of the FBI) related to that. Why would the Obama administration be wasting time and resources chasing Trump long before he even emerged as a realistic candidate for the Presidency (February 2016 at the earliest)?



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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 11:27 - Apr 24 with 6182 viewsGuthrum

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 11:09 - Apr 24 by 26_Paz

I love the way he tells things like they are, unlike any politicians in the UK (except Farage)


He says things, but where is Trump's history of actually doing? No personal involvement with politics or activism at any level until he decided to run for President. No elected position even stood for, let alone successfully. No history of advocacy.

In any case, he isn't telling things 'as they are', given the number of times he's been caught out exaggerating or downright lying.

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 11:29 - Apr 24 with 6169 viewsNo9

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 11:27 - Apr 24 by Guthrum

He says things, but where is Trump's history of actually doing? No personal involvement with politics or activism at any level until he decided to run for President. No elected position even stood for, let alone successfully. No history of advocacy.

In any case, he isn't telling things 'as they are', given the number of times he's been caught out exaggerating or downright lying.


The 'Wikileaks' clips were amusing as to how they showed what a liar he really is?
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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 11:29 - Apr 24 with 6173 viewsStokieBlue

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 11:09 - Apr 24 by 26_Paz

I love the way he tells things like they are, unlike any politicians in the UK (except Farage)


There is a difference between telling things as you believe them and telling things as they are.

One requires no evidence, the other does.

Unfortunately you don't seem to care about the one which requires evidence, once again a cause of the problems that we now find ourselves in as a society across virtually all subjects.

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 11:33 - Apr 24 with 6156 viewsSomethingBlue

Those troll farms have really extended their reach tbf.

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 11:37 - Apr 24 with 6146 viewsm14_blue

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 11:09 - Apr 24 by 26_Paz

I love the way he tells things like they are, unlike any politicians in the UK (except Farage)


You think Farage tells things like they are????

You’ve been had mate, the guy’s a total charlatan and you’ve fallen for it.
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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 11:56 - Apr 24 with 6101 viewsunstableblue

Firstly are you really, seriously, taking that web-site as a credible source. Fox News isn't a credible source, and they start to look like an academic thesis in comparison to that bilge.

And secondly is Trump:

- a climate change denier? yes
- has he legitimised the far right? yes
- is he driven driven by his own selfish and greed based doctrine? yes
- is he a narcissist? yes
- has he divided America further and directly contributed to racial bigotry? yes
- is he a decent law abiding person who fairly pays his taxes? no
- has he given credence and support to regimes that flaunt human right or threaten the west? yes
- has he mocked countries following terrorist attacks? yes
- does he lie almost continually? yes

In short the fact he is President of United States is a dark chapter for the USA and the world, and the fact the Left want him out, is frankly no surprise. He is pond scum.

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 12:09 - Apr 24 with 6060 viewsNo9

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 11:56 - Apr 24 by unstableblue

Firstly are you really, seriously, taking that web-site as a credible source. Fox News isn't a credible source, and they start to look like an academic thesis in comparison to that bilge.

And secondly is Trump:

- a climate change denier? yes
- has he legitimised the far right? yes
- is he driven driven by his own selfish and greed based doctrine? yes
- is he a narcissist? yes
- has he divided America further and directly contributed to racial bigotry? yes
- is he a decent law abiding person who fairly pays his taxes? no
- has he given credence and support to regimes that flaunt human right or threaten the west? yes
- has he mocked countries following terrorist attacks? yes
- does he lie almost continually? yes

In short the fact he is President of United States is a dark chapter for the USA and the world, and the fact the Left want him out, is frankly no surprise. He is pond scum.


Agreed butpresently he is on course for a second term?
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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 12:13 - Apr 24 with 6051 viewsSpruceMoose

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 11:09 - Apr 24 by 26_Paz

I love the way he tells things like they are, unlike any politicians in the UK (except Farage)


He's a liar who has successfully mugged off the idiotic, the racist, and the forgotten about folk. He' has never told it as it is.

He's mugged you right off too if you actually think that.

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 12:14 - Apr 24 with 6048 viewsSpruceMoose

FFS, I get enough of this moronic shoite over here without getting it on here as well.

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 12:21 - Apr 24 with 6015 views26_Paz

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 12:13 - Apr 24 by SpruceMoose

He's a liar who has successfully mugged off the idiotic, the racist, and the forgotten about folk. He' has never told it as it is.

He's mugged you right off too if you actually think that.


We need someone over here who can drain our swamp the way he is doing it in America.

The Paz Man

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 12:23 - Apr 24 with 6015 viewsSwansea_Blue

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 12:14 - Apr 24 by SpruceMoose

FFS, I get enough of this moronic shoite over here without getting it on here as well.


We're joining together now Moosey as the same people are helping to fund and drive this 'populist' agenda and propaganda in both the US and the UK. When Trump was elected there was outrage at the prospect of a visit. Now, there'll be loads more people who'll welcome him with open arms. Very sad, but there we are.

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Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 12:30 - Apr 24 with 5984 viewsHerbivore

Left's attempted coup d'etat on Trump on 09:54 - Apr 24 by 26_Paz

I love Trump and wish we had someone like him here. MAGA.


Yes, but you're a total peen.

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