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BA retiring it's 747's 10:35 - Jul 17 with 1882 viewsStokieBlue

A hugely successful design, first flown in 1969 and still going more than 50 years later. It certainly won the battle of speed vs capacity against Concorde.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jul/17/british-airways-retires-boeing-

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BA retiring it's 747's on 10:38 - Jul 17 with 1492 viewsSwansea_Blue

It'll be missed. I use to like flying on them as even though they were huge, some of the spaces were quite sectioned off an personal. And you could walk up and down the stairs to stretch your legs!

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BA retiring it's 747's on 10:39 - Jul 17 with 1484 viewshomer_123

Decision brought forward from 2024 isn't it?

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BA retiring it's 747's on 10:41 - Jul 17 with 1460 viewsfooters

Shame as they are/were great aircraft. Still not been on a Dreamliner yet though, so there's always that to look forward to :)

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BA retiring it's 747's on 10:42 - Jul 17 with 1457 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Virgin Atlantic have retired theirs too. Not the most economical aircraft these days.

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BA retiring it's 747's on 11:05 - Jul 17 with 1415 viewsFixed_It

BA retiring it's 747's on 10:42 - Jul 17 by Cheltenham_Blue

Virgin Atlantic have retired theirs too. Not the most economical aircraft these days.


No - but a thing of beauty and engineering brilliance.

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BA retiring it's 747's on 11:10 - Jul 17 with 1393 viewspeterleeblue

Watching a 747 take off is one of the greatest engineering sights I have ever seen. Astounds me every time!
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BA retiring it's 747's on 11:13 - Jul 17 with 1383 viewsSwansea_Blue

BA retiring it's 747's on 11:10 - Jul 17 by peterleeblue

Watching a 747 take off is one of the greatest engineering sights I have ever seen. Astounds me every time!


They scared the crap out of me. I use to live under the HR flightpath, and even at about 5 miles out it seemed like some could only just clear the rooftops.

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BA retiring it's 747's on 11:17 - Jul 17 with 1375 viewspeterleeblue

BA retiring it's 747's on 11:10 - Jul 17 by peterleeblue

Watching a 747 take off is one of the greatest engineering sights I have ever seen. Astounds me every time!




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BA retiring it's 747's on 11:19 - Jul 17 with 1374 viewsSteve_M

BA retiring it's 747's on 11:05 - Jul 17 by Fixed_It

No - but a thing of beauty and engineering brilliance.


Especially given that the original design is more than half a century old, 50 years before that we're at Alcock and Brown making the first crossing of the Atlantic.

Whilst they will be missed, the fuel economy of the newest generation of airliners is so much better that that has to be a good thing if people are to continue flying,.

I still miss seeing Concorde fly over London in the evening too.

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BA retiring it's 747's on 11:23 - Jul 17 with 1366 viewsStokieBlue

BA retiring it's 747's on 11:19 - Jul 17 by Steve_M

Especially given that the original design is more than half a century old, 50 years before that we're at Alcock and Brown making the first crossing of the Atlantic.

Whilst they will be missed, the fuel economy of the newest generation of airliners is so much better that that has to be a good thing if people are to continue flying,.

I still miss seeing Concorde fly over London in the evening too.


This is old now but still pretty good (from memory):



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BA retiring it's 747's on 11:32 - Jul 17 with 1353 viewsIpswichKnight

BA retiring it's 747's on 10:39 - Jul 17 by homer_123

Decision brought forward from 2024 isn't it?


indeed it is, BA had the biggest fleet of 747's still flying until this announcement. They will look to get rid of the A380's next the newer generation of 787/777X/A350 can cope with the demand and can fly further than the A380 ( Qantas fly 787 non stop from Perth to Heathrow ). BA also have a large order for the new 777X on order as well to replace the 747s and A380's.
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BA retiring it's 747's on 11:38 - Jul 17 with 1344 viewsGuthrum

Altho the battle was more between the cost of speed and capacity. Concorde was just too expensive and too limited on where it could operate.

Got the opportunity to cross the Atlantic First Class in the nose of a BA 747 a couple of years ago (courtesy of a friend). Quite an experience.

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BA retiring it's 747's on 12:13 - Jul 17 with 1312 viewsSpruceMoose

BA retiring it's 747's on 10:42 - Jul 17 by Cheltenham_Blue

Virgin Atlantic have retired theirs too. Not the most economical aircraft these days.


There was a nice economy option to sit upstairs in the bubble on some Virgin routes for a while. Much quieter and no kids up there.

Beautiful plane. Always liked seeing them when just waiting at the gate to get on some characterless but efficient Airbus or Embraer.

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BA retiring it's 747's on 12:14 - Jul 17 with 1309 viewsjaykay

i flew on one in jan to india. it was with klm who had a business class deal on at the time.
klm stopped using them as well. i might have been on one the last 474 with klm from india
only 20 seats upstairs, mind you we then had to fly on a embraer 175 to and from norwich.

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BA retiring it's 747's on 12:15 - Jul 17 with 1306 viewsSteve_M

BA retiring it's 747's on 11:23 - Jul 17 by StokieBlue

This is old now but still pretty good (from memory):



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If that's the one that's been on BBC a few times then, yes, it's good.

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BA retiring it's 747's on 13:02 - Jul 17 with 1277 viewseastangliaisblue

BA retiring it's 747's on 11:38 - Jul 17 by Guthrum

Altho the battle was more between the cost of speed and capacity. Concorde was just too expensive and too limited on where it could operate.

Got the opportunity to cross the Atlantic First Class in the nose of a BA 747 a couple of years ago (courtesy of a friend). Quite an experience.


I watched a documentary about the building of Concorde a few years ago, on BBC I believe. It said how more technology went into the engineering of Concorde, than went into the moon landings. There was a lot of genius engineering went into how to fly the average man, at twice the sound of speed without feeling the G force.
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BA retiring it's 747's on 13:35 - Jul 17 with 1233 viewssolemio

I'm very surprised that not a single person (or indeed a married person) from Ixworth has pointed out that the first apostrophe in the title should not be there, and that some folk think that the second one shouldn't either.
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BA retiring it's 747's on 13:37 - Jul 17 with 1219 viewsGuthrum

BA retiring it's 747's on 13:02 - Jul 17 by eastangliaisblue

I watched a documentary about the building of Concorde a few years ago, on BBC I believe. It said how more technology went into the engineering of Concorde, than went into the moon landings. There was a lot of genius engineering went into how to fly the average man, at twice the sound of speed without feeling the G force.
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One of the biggest issues was the ability to "supercruise", which is to keep up a sustained supersonic speed without using afterburners/reheats (which consume fuel at a frightening rate).

Most jet fighters can only "dash", in very short bursts. Concorde had to keep it up for 3,000 miles. It's a delicate balance of weight, power and fuel.

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BA retiring it's 747's on 14:31 - Jul 17 with 1185 viewsElderGrizzly

BA retiring it's 747's on 11:32 - Jul 17 by IpswichKnight

indeed it is, BA had the biggest fleet of 747's still flying until this announcement. They will look to get rid of the A380's next the newer generation of 787/777X/A350 can cope with the demand and can fly further than the A380 ( Qantas fly 787 non stop from Perth to Heathrow ). BA also have a large order for the new 777X on order as well to replace the 747s and A380's.


A380s are out until at least October too. I can't see all of them coming back either. All depends how quickly the A350s and 787-10's arrive

They have 12 A380s and they need to have around 80%+ load to be profitable. Jo'Burg is their most profitable route on them right now (or was).

Captain I know isn't exactly hopeful and recently turned down the A350 conversion!
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BA retiring it's 747's on 15:50 - Jul 17 with 1146 viewsIpswichKnight

BA retiring it's 747's on 14:31 - Jul 17 by ElderGrizzly

A380s are out until at least October too. I can't see all of them coming back either. All depends how quickly the A350s and 787-10's arrive

They have 12 A380s and they need to have around 80%+ load to be profitable. Jo'Burg is their most profitable route on them right now (or was).

Captain I know isn't exactly hopeful and recently turned down the A350 conversion!


Air France have binned there's and saw Qantas were putting all there's into storage via flight radar the other night. I've never flown on the A380 which will be a shame as all those who have had said it's a nice plane, the A350 I went on with Finnair was a nice plane and plenty of space in business class as well.
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BA retiring it's 747's on 16:03 - Jul 17 with 1133 viewsmparkyn

My only experience was between Dallas and Heathrow in First Class. Always remember the first question was "did i want some pyjamas ?" I said maybe only after the Champagne !!

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BA retiring it's 747's on 16:58 - Jul 17 with 1102 viewsSteve_M

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BA retiring it's 747's on 20:00 - Jul 17 with 1031 viewsmikeybloo88

BA retiring it's 747's on 10:41 - Jul 17 by footers

Shame as they are/were great aircraft. Still not been on a Dreamliner yet though, so there's always that to look forward to :)


Flew back from Boston on a Dreamliner two years ago...it's sh1t compared to the 747. No seat room for legs or elbows whatsoever..
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BA retiring it's 747's on 20:11 - Jul 17 with 1020 viewseastangliaisblue

BA retiring it's 747's on 13:37 - Jul 17 by Guthrum

One of the biggest issues was the ability to "supercruise", which is to keep up a sustained supersonic speed without using afterburners/reheats (which consume fuel at a frightening rate).

Most jet fighters can only "dash", in very short bursts. Concorde had to keep it up for 3,000 miles. It's a delicate balance of weight, power and fuel.


That was also in the documentary, which i forgot about. I just googled about the documentary, it is on BBC4 called Concorde: A Supersonic Story. It might be on iplayer if you're interested.
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