| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) 14:46 - Dec 14 with 3205 views | FrimleyBlue |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 14:49 - Dec 14 with 3192 views | SpruceMoose |
He'd probably take 50p for it, but you'd then need millions of pounds year after year for so long as you want the club to exist. |  |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 14:53 - Dec 14 with 3160 views | Bluefish |
Someone will need to bring more than 100 million to the table i would expect
Not necessarily to pay to buy the club but to represent being able to keep us afloat |  |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 14:54 - Dec 14 with 3152 views | clive_baker |
£20m on the basis he writes off any debt owed to ME. |  |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 14:58 - Dec 14 with 3127 views | Metal_Hacker |
I doubt it'd be as much as we all think
The issue is being able to take on the annual debt for the most without even considering what investment is needed
The initial outlay I really don't think would be as great as people assume |  |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 17:29 - Dec 14 with 2934 views | Bent_double |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 14:53 - Dec 14 by Bluefish |
Someone will need to bring more than 100 million to the table i would expect
Not necessarily to pay to buy the club but to represent being able to keep us afloat |
No-one is going to pay £100m for little Ipswich Town.
£10-20m at most is my guess.
Don't forget that with the new salary cap, the amount he, or any new owner needs to put in will be substantially reduced, possibly even zero. |  |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 17:53 - Dec 14 with 2891 views | jayessess |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 17:29 - Dec 14 by Bent_double |
No-one is going to pay £100m for little Ipswich Town.
£10-20m at most is my guess.
Don't forget that with the new salary cap, the amount he, or any new owner needs to put in will be substantially reduced, possibly even zero. |
Right, but the asking price isn't the problem. Football league clubs lose money, so at a minimum you've got to be rich enough to have that money to spare. |  |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 17:54 - Dec 14 with 2882 views | SpruceMoose |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 17:53 - Dec 14 by jayessess |
Right, but the asking price isn't the problem. Football league clubs lose money, so at a minimum you've got to be rich enough to have that money to spare. |
Realistically, you have to have that money not just to spare, but to lose. | |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 18:04 - Dec 14 with 2851 views | jayessess |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 17:54 - Dec 14 by SpruceMoose |
Realistically, you have to have that money not just to spare, but to lose. |
Hypothetically, if you had the money to buy the club and to get Evans to write off the debt and start from scratch, you might just have the leeway to say, "look, we're going to run the club on its revenues, it's a community asset and we have to keep it safe. We will always fight to be the best we can be, but other clubs are going to have more money. Support us anyway and we'll try and make you proud."
Not sure how far that'd get you though... | |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 18:15 - Dec 14 with 2821 views | clive_baker |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 17:53 - Dec 14 by jayessess |
Right, but the asking price isn't the problem. Football league clubs lose money, so at a minimum you've got to be rich enough to have that money to spare. |
While that may well be true, it wasn’t the question. [Post edited 14 Dec 2020 18:21]
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 18:48 - Dec 14 with 2745 views | Bent_double |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 17:53 - Dec 14 by jayessess |
Right, but the asking price isn't the problem. Football league clubs lose money, so at a minimum you've got to be rich enough to have that money to spare. |
Yes, I get that, no-one's going to buy the club for say, £20m, and be thinking they'll never have to put another penny in, so it will be a rich individual, consortium or company who have cash to spare.
Don't discount the fact that a well-run club in L1 with the potential that we (or Sunderland) have with a 30000+ seater stadium, is a very, very attractive proposition. Not saying we are well-run, but we certainly have that potential.
Even now if we were to get promoted, we would probably see that 4 or 5 of our academy players are worth a combined £15-20m, surely the best way to plug any gaps in the finances - as long as we can keep on producing good young players in the future. | |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 19:00 - Dec 14 with 2719 views | FrankfurtBlue |
Is he really looking to sell? He should be, as it is costing him money to run, and he is not exactly competent at running it, even if he doesn't recognise that fact.
Assuming that a) the buyer(s) had the necessary wherewithal to run the club, b) Evans writes off the debt owed to him, and c) the sale includes the land at Playford Rd (the only tangible asset), Evans would probably want more, but should accept a bid of say £5-10m. |  | | |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 19:01 - Dec 14 with 2713 views | Pinewoodblue |
I’m sure Marcus Evans would be willing to write off the debt in return for a guarantee of 10% of monies received for tv coverage in the first x years in the top flight.
Loss of some television revenue, should of course we ever reach the top flight, would be less of a handicap than putting up with Marcus Evans inability to select a capable management team.
Football is a business which is result lead. It must hurt him that he has involved himself in a business operation where he is completely out of his depth. He isn’t used to being regarded as a failure. |  |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 19:02 - Dec 14 with 2710 views | jayessess |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 18:48 - Dec 14 by Bent_double |
Yes, I get that, no-one's going to buy the club for say, £20m, and be thinking they'll never have to put another penny in, so it will be a rich individual, consortium or company who have cash to spare.
Don't discount the fact that a well-run club in L1 with the potential that we (or Sunderland) have with a 30000+ seater stadium, is a very, very attractive proposition. Not saying we are well-run, but we certainly have that potential.
Even now if we were to get promoted, we would probably see that 4 or 5 of our academy players are worth a combined £15-20m, surely the best way to plug any gaps in the finances - as long as we can keep on producing good young players in the future. |
I think it would be hard, but not impossible, to run the club on its revenues, essentially as a non-profit. But it's never going to be an investment because any increase in revenue essentially gets swallowed up by the need to compete. Most non-big-6 Premier League clubs also run at a loss.
If you actually want to make any money there are an infinite number of things you could do that would be better than buying a football club. | |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 19:21 - Dec 14 with 2655 views | FrimleyBlue |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 19:02 - Dec 14 by jayessess |
I think it would be hard, but not impossible, to run the club on its revenues, essentially as a non-profit. But it's never going to be an investment because any increase in revenue essentially gets swallowed up by the need to compete. Most non-big-6 Premier League clubs also run at a loss.
If you actually want to make any money there are an infinite number of things you could do that would be better than buying a football club. |
So what you're saying is
Take a club on which is debt.
Turn it round by sticking to revenue and come up with ways to make funds for the club to thrive whilst stabilising and then achieving promotion in a target of say 5 years.
Wonder if it's any different to non league ;)
Where do I apply lol. | |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 19:27 - Dec 14 with 2635 views | jayessess |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 19:21 - Dec 14 by FrimleyBlue |
So what you're saying is
Take a club on which is debt.
Turn it round by sticking to revenue and come up with ways to make funds for the club to thrive whilst stabilising and then achieving promotion in a target of say 5 years.
Wonder if it's any different to non league ;)
Where do I apply lol. |
you couldn't be much worse at it than the current guy, but you might lose your house :p | |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 19:50 - Dec 14 with 2592 views | Coastalblue |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 18:04 - Dec 14 by jayessess |
Hypothetically, if you had the money to buy the club and to get Evans to write off the debt and start from scratch, you might just have the leeway to say, "look, we're going to run the club on its revenues, it's a community asset and we have to keep it safe. We will always fight to be the best we can be, but other clubs are going to have more money. Support us anyway and we'll try and make you proud."
Not sure how far that'd get you though... |
Everybody would love it and be really proud for 6 months, and then get the ache that we weren't winning every week. |  |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 21:14 - Dec 14 with 2512 views | istanblue |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 14:49 - Dec 14 by SpruceMoose |
He'd probably take 50p for it, but you'd then need millions of pounds year after year for so long as you want the club to exist. |
I wouldn't be so sure. I frequently wonder why Evans is still here - all ambition to get to the Prem seems dead and buried, he's not a supporter of the club, most fans dislike him and ITFC is a loss-making arm of his business empire. I suspect the reason he remains is due to some forlorn hope he can rake back some of the millions he has spent. He'd probably only accept £1 if there was some kind of agreement with the new owner to repay a large chunk of the clubs debt that is owed to him. He's basically chasing losses at this point. |  | | |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 21:29 - Dec 14 with 2479 views | George25 |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 21:14 - Dec 14 by istanblue |
I wouldn't be so sure. I frequently wonder why Evans is still here - all ambition to get to the Prem seems dead and buried, he's not a supporter of the club, most fans dislike him and ITFC is a loss-making arm of his business empire. I suspect the reason he remains is due to some forlorn hope he can rake back some of the millions he has spent. He'd probably only accept £1 if there was some kind of agreement with the new owner to repay a large chunk of the clubs debt that is owed to him. He's basically chasing losses at this point. |
Tbh if he was not friends with sheapshanks and didt have some sort of verbal commuitment to keep the club stable he would be the type of owner to walk away and leave us ending up like bolton |  | | |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 22:18 - Dec 14 with 2408 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Whoever it is will need to show capacity to invest on an in going basis... doesn't mean they will of course.... I genuinely think Evans would only sell to what he would consider an honourable custodian..... I don't but into all the conspiracy stuff, tax dodge, happy in L1 etc.
I do think he doesn't know enough about football which would also be fine if he appointed people who do to oversee the day to day rather than what is a corporate boardroom prawn sandwich brigade. I also think he makes poor decisions... I have defended the logic of most of them and I understand all of them bur equally all with a bit more due dilligence might have raised red flags. Hurst apart they have all been "safe" appointments and none of them inspired, even Mick who was intially a success was not and inspired choice. With where we were he was the only choice.... Owners make bad appointments, they are not infallible but it is the consistency of poor appointments that is the glaring reoccurring theme and biggest concern.... it further underlines the need for a more modern structure at the club. We all want more investment but equally we could do more with what we have..... we should at least be able to get out of and stay out of this divison with our budget.
Evans must look at who advises him and the senior structure he has at the club.... we cant spend our way to the promised land but we can certainly be smarter. |  |
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| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 22:31 - Dec 14 with 2371 views | Itfcforme |
Whilst the ground is not owned by Evans nobody would plough millions into a club where you would not get any return
Itfc has to many high wage long term players and this has been the biggest problem made worse now by the total wage cap part of the blame is running of the club day to day |  | | |
| So how much is it to get Evans out of itfc? (n/t) on 22:44 - Dec 14 with 2351 views | ketton_itfc |
I’d say he’d sell it for £1 on the proviso that;
Guaranteed investment of x million a year for 10 years
A percentage of any future transfer revenue from current squad or academy youngsters being sold
Should the club be part of the EPL or EPL2, that a guaranteed percentage of the £100mill will be paid off from tv revenue etc.
New owner must rent training ground at x rental per year
So unless the new owner has really deep pockets we’re going to be hamstrung even when he’s gone.
Here’s hoping that Evans children fancy taking over from Dad when he’s decided to stay permanently in Bermuda. They surely couldn’t do any worse..... |  | | |
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