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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape 00:23 - Feb 4 with 3114 viewsdominiciawful

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-55794071

An awful read which made me so angry.

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 00:27 - Feb 4 with 2832 viewsreusersfreekicks

How can this be going on and tolerated in 2021?
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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 00:36 - Feb 4 with 2816 viewsSarge

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 00:27 - Feb 4 by reusersfreekicks

How can this be going on and tolerated in 2021?


Because it’s China and we can’t live without their cheap, low grade, mass produced tat.
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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 01:03 - Feb 4 with 2773 viewsCoastalblue

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 00:36 - Feb 4 by Sarge

Because it’s China and we can’t live without their cheap, low grade, mass produced tat.


and they are a global superpower who could turn most of the rest of us into dust.

I read it this morning, it's disgusting and unbelievable, at some point the world is going to have to stand up to China, perhaps we have to wait for the likes of India to catch up with them and offer a balance of power, whilst praying they don't go the same way.

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 08:16 - Feb 4 with 2660 viewsjacko77

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 00:27 - Feb 4 by reusersfreekicks

How can this be going on and tolerated in 2021?


Terrible isn't it,Trump was the only one prepared to get tough on China,that won't happen with Biden.
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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 08:24 - Feb 4 with 2655 viewstractordownsouth

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 08:16 - Feb 4 by jacko77

Terrible isn't it,Trump was the only one prepared to get tough on China,that won't happen with Biden.


Is that the same Donald Trump who has a history of sucking up to dictators and allegedly supported this policy?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-poli

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 08:37 - Feb 4 with 2640 viewsjacko77

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 08:24 - Feb 4 by tractordownsouth

Is that the same Donald Trump who has a history of sucking up to dictators and allegedly supported this policy?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-poli


We're talking about China,sorry I hit a nerve you wet flannel 😁
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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 08:48 - Feb 4 with 2625 viewsStokieBlue

Awful.

Also not condemning the coup in Myanmar.

More awful actions from the Chinese government by StokieBlue 3 Feb 2021 9:29
They blocked the UN resolution to condemn the coup in Myanmar:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-55913947

This is an awful read about the conditions and treatment of Uighur woman in the detention camps (you've been warned):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-55794071

"The Chinese government protects the rights and interests of all ethnic minorities equally," the spokeswoman said, adding that the government "attaches great importance to protecting women's rights".

Unbelievable. They seem to think what works internally works externally and that everyone are idiots. Either that or they simply don't care. Probably the second one I guess.

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 08:48 - Feb 4 with 2625 viewsGuthrum

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 08:16 - Feb 4 by jacko77

Terrible isn't it,Trump was the only one prepared to get tough on China,that won't happen with Biden.


But he didn't really. US action on the Uighur situation was limited to to declaring it a genocide eleven days before the end of Trump's presidency. He was far more interested in trade deficits.

Will Biden be any more effective? Remains to be seen.

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 08:58 - Feb 4 with 2612 viewsChurchman

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 01:03 - Feb 4 by Coastalblue

and they are a global superpower who could turn most of the rest of us into dust.

I read it this morning, it's disgusting and unbelievable, at some point the world is going to have to stand up to China, perhaps we have to wait for the likes of India to catch up with them and offer a balance of power, whilst praying they don't go the same way.


Turn the rest of us to dust? Well that depends if they wanted anything left themselves.

Economically, China could be isolated and neutered, but like that disgusting country Russia, there has to be a willingness to do and an acceptance of the cost to bear. And nobody is prepared to do that.

I would add that there are many people, including plenty in this country, that see the USA as a more evil and a threat than China or Russia. They are not.
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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 09:03 - Feb 4 with 2605 viewsStokieBlue

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 01:03 - Feb 4 by Coastalblue

and they are a global superpower who could turn most of the rest of us into dust.

I read it this morning, it's disgusting and unbelievable, at some point the world is going to have to stand up to China, perhaps we have to wait for the likes of India to catch up with them and offer a balance of power, whilst praying they don't go the same way.


How do you mean, "turn to dust"?

Economically they could due huge damage but militarily they couldn't do that. Even economically, if push came to shove and they went against the entire Western bloc then they would struggle without any markets to sell to. Obviously that also comes with the issue that we would need to find somewhere new to buy stuff from. Realistically neither can do anything to each other as it's a symbiotic relationship as it stands.

India aren't going to catch up to them for at least 50 years I would imagine. They are a long way behind with their infrastructure and their population continues to skyrocket without any controls (it's probably already overtaken China's). There are also huge internal issues around the caste system and historical ideas.

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 09:04 - Feb 4 with 2603 viewsGuthrum

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 01:03 - Feb 4 by Coastalblue

and they are a global superpower who could turn most of the rest of us into dust.

I read it this morning, it's disgusting and unbelievable, at some point the world is going to have to stand up to China, perhaps we have to wait for the likes of India to catch up with them and offer a balance of power, whilst praying they don't go the same way.


Even despite their considerable expansion over the last decade or so, China's military is still not that powerful. I doubt they'd win a conventional war against the USA alone, let alone a combination of all their rivals and enemies. Even the entente with Russia is little more than an anti-American marriage of convenience. There are long-standing points of rivalry between them, too.

In terms of being a nuclear power, they are more in the same league as the UK and France, rather than anything close to what the US and Russia have deployed.

Also, with the current BJP government, India is already travelling down a route of oppressing (religious) minority groups.

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 09:09 - Feb 4 with 2596 viewsStokieBlue

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 09:04 - Feb 4 by Guthrum

Even despite their considerable expansion over the last decade or so, China's military is still not that powerful. I doubt they'd win a conventional war against the USA alone, let alone a combination of all their rivals and enemies. Even the entente with Russia is little more than an anti-American marriage of convenience. There are long-standing points of rivalry between them, too.

In terms of being a nuclear power, they are more in the same league as the UK and France, rather than anything close to what the US and Russia have deployed.

Also, with the current BJP government, India is already travelling down a route of oppressing (religious) minority groups.


China's military is improving (mainly through very effective espionage and a lot of money) but they are still a long way behind the US and Russia as you've said.

The relationship between China and Russia is interesting, China believe that vast parts of Siberia should really be theirs due to some tenuous historical claim but clearly Russia are never going to give them up so that could be a flashpoint as it stands. Conventionally it's hard to see how China can do much against the US or Russia at this point. They do have a large ground army though and numbers count for something.

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 09:22 - Feb 4 with 2588 viewsGuthrum

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 09:09 - Feb 4 by StokieBlue

China's military is improving (mainly through very effective espionage and a lot of money) but they are still a long way behind the US and Russia as you've said.

The relationship between China and Russia is interesting, China believe that vast parts of Siberia should really be theirs due to some tenuous historical claim but clearly Russia are never going to give them up so that could be a flashpoint as it stands. Conventionally it's hard to see how China can do much against the US or Russia at this point. They do have a large ground army though and numbers count for something.

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The problem with large numbers is you need the space and terrain to both deploy them effectively and to hide them from air- and artillery strikes. Otherwise, as happened in Korea, relatively small forces can hold up large formations. I'm also not convinced that the modern Chinese army is as ideologically motivated as the civil war veterans who hurled themselves en masse at UN positions in the early 1950s.

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 09:27 - Feb 4 with 2576 views26_Paz

I’m sure we can expect Biden to get tough with them soon ...
Be careful what you wish for ...

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 09:31 - Feb 4 with 2571 viewsDanTheMan

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 09:27 - Feb 4 by 26_Paz

I’m sure we can expect Biden to get tough with them soon ...
Be careful what you wish for ...


LOL

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 09:32 - Feb 4 with 2569 viewsm14_blue

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 09:27 - Feb 4 by 26_Paz

I’m sure we can expect Biden to get tough with them soon ...
Be careful what you wish for ...


Yeah, what we really need is a fascist in the White House to oppose the CCP in the East.

That sounds like a recipe for a happy and stable world.
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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 09:37 - Feb 4 with 2562 viewsStokieBlue

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 09:27 - Feb 4 by 26_Paz

I’m sure we can expect Biden to get tough with them soon ...
Be careful what you wish for ...


Did Trump get tough with them?

A bit of a trade war which in the end achieved absolutely nothing. At least the Biden administration will come out and condemn the Chinese internal actions for what they are rather than wait until a few days before leaving office.

Sometimes you really don't help yourself on here.

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 10:35 - Feb 4 with 2531 viewstractordownsouth

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 09:27 - Feb 4 by 26_Paz

I’m sure we can expect Biden to get tough with them soon ...
Be careful what you wish for ...


And there was me thinking that after he incited a riot in which 4 people were killed, nobody would defend Trump on here anymore...

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 13:40 - Feb 4 with 2462 viewsTJS

The West really needs to start moving away from doing business with China if they are going to do this sort of thing.
It could take 30 years but it needs to start now in increasing steps.
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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 14:02 - Feb 4 with 2453 viewsSwansea_Blue

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 13:40 - Feb 4 by TJS

The West really needs to start moving away from doing business with China if they are going to do this sort of thing.
It could take 30 years but it needs to start now in increasing steps.


It needs to but it won't. Nothing can change while we value profit higher than life and quality of life.

I'm not sure what we can do as individuals - boycott Chinese products, sign petitions, that's about it but it won't change anything.

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 14:28 - Feb 4 with 2436 viewsmonytowbray

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 00:36 - Feb 4 by Sarge

Because it’s China and we can’t live without their cheap, low grade, mass produced tat.


Corps like Apple, Nike, Adidas are lobbying globally to stop governments getting involved.

Hence why ours voted on behalf of the nation to pretend it's not happening last month.

We said "never again" in 1945 yet it's never stopped. Your taxes have been funding the activity or enabling of genocide and killing innocent people for profit and/or blind hatred since your first pay cheque.

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 14:29 - Feb 4 with 2432 viewsmonytowbray

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 08:16 - Feb 4 by jacko77

Terrible isn't it,Trump was the only one prepared to get tough on China,that won't happen with Biden.


Trump was brilliant for the likes of China and China as he was easily corruptible or manipulatable into turning a blind eye.

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 14:30 - Feb 4 with 2431 viewsmonytowbray

'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 10:35 - Feb 4 by tractordownsouth

And there was me thinking that after he incited a riot in which 4 people were killed, nobody would defend Trump on here anymore...


Remember these people live in a fringe news echo chamber based on nonsense. That doesn't change with Trump gone.

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 14:31 - Feb 4 with 2431 viewsSpruceMoose

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I’m sure we can expect Biden to get tough with them soon ...
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Aw! Someone is missing Donny!

Every time you crawl out from under your rock you manage to soil your reputation even further! Lovely stuff.

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'Their goal is to destroy everyone':Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape on 17:00 - Feb 4 with 2379 viewsStokieBlue

This is interesting:

"The statement was issued shortly after UK media regulator Ofcom announced it had revoked China Global Television Network’s (CGTN) licence to broadcast in the UK."

The Chinese said the BBC were reporting fake news about C19 in regards to China, the BBC have said they stand by all their coverage.

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