| Crooks and Gibson please 07:17 - Jul 15 with 1907 views | Vic |
And I’ll be very happy to start the season with that team/squad.
See how it goes and supplement it with a couple of loans or plug any gaps in January. |  |
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| Crooks and Gibson please on 07:24 - Jul 15 with 1866 views | portmanking |
No, a senior CB is a must for me.
We also need a proper left sided winger and another LB.
THEN we'll be ready to truly challenge. |  | | |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 07:30 - Jul 15 with 1835 views | SomethingBlue |
Hmmm, we would still be well short - look at where we'd be if/when we get four or five injuries. Still need about 5 more and I expect they'll come. | |
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| Crooks and Gibson please on 07:34 - Jul 15 with 1808 views | Vic |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 07:30 - Jul 15 by SomethingBlue |
Hmmm, we would still be well short - look at where we'd be if/when we get four or five injuries. Still need about 5 more and I expect they'll come. |
I think for the sake of player progression we need to leave space for younger players to be able to step up. For eg, I’d have no problem having Baggott or Ndaba as a replacement for a couple of games here and there. Would be great experience. We’d still have Toto as well.
A more experienced CB than Gibson would be great, but he seems to be our target atm. | |
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| Crooks and Gibson please on 07:47 - Jul 15 with 1725 views | chicoazul |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 07:34 - Jul 15 by Vic |
I think for the sake of player progression we need to leave space for younger players to be able to step up. For eg, I’d have no problem having Baggott or Ndaba as a replacement for a couple of games here and there. Would be great experience. We’d still have Toto as well.
A more experienced CB than Gibson would be great, but he seems to be our target atm. |
Very sadly I think we all need to forget about the great Ipswich tradition of young players coming through, at least for now. |  |
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| Crooks and Gibson please on 07:59 - Jul 15 with 1644 views | pennblue |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 07:47 - Jul 15 by chicoazul |
Very sadly I think we all need to forget about the great Ipswich tradition of young players coming through, at least for now. |
Is it really a great tradition?
How many of the 1981 team came from the academy? (genuine question) | |
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| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:00 - Jul 15 with 1642 views | tonybied |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 07:47 - Jul 15 by chicoazul |
Very sadly I think we all need to forget about the great Ipswich tradition of young players coming through, at least for now. |
Why?
Cook has said he wants to work with a much smaller squad than anytime recently, this will undoubtedly lead to youth getting a chance when we inevitably get hit with injuries at some point in the season.
The youngsters may not get a prolonged run in the team but they will get a chance to prove themselves in the squad, which is the way it should be. Too much exposure at a young age just leads to too much pressure and injuries as has been the case with too many of our recent graduates. |  | | |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:14 - Jul 15 with 1550 views | Eiffel78 |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 07:59 - Jul 15 by pennblue |
Is it really a great tradition?
How many of the 1981 team came from the academy? (genuine question) |
Quite a few of them. Burley, Butcher, Osman, McCall, Wark, Gates and Brazil all played a big part that season, and Beattie would have if not for injuries. Plus there were other youth team graduates playing bit parts: Turner, D'Avray, Osborne, Steggles, Parkin and Sivell all played a few matches. Not the best example you could have picked! |  | | |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:21 - Jul 15 with 1516 views | pointofblue |
Hladký - Vincent-Young, NEW LB, Woolfenden, NEW CB - Evans, NEW CM - Burns, NEW LW, Fraser - Pigott
Holy - NEW RB, Penney, Nsiala, Ndaba - Harper, Nolan - NEW RW, Dobra, Norwood - Bonne
So still six gaps for me unless we feel there are any young players who could immediately come in and stake a clam. | |
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| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:21 - Jul 15 with 1513 views | groovyASH |
Left back, 2 or even 3 wingers and at least 1 CB still needed. If we are still wanting Crooks through the door I still think we have at least 6 signings to come |  |
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| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:22 - Jul 15 with 1502 views | pennblue |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:14 - Jul 15 by Eiffel78 |
Quite a few of them. Burley, Butcher, Osman, McCall, Wark, Gates and Brazil all played a big part that season, and Beattie would have if not for injuries. Plus there were other youth team graduates playing bit parts: Turner, D'Avray, Osborne, Steggles, Parkin and Sivell all played a few matches. Not the best example you could have picked! |
interesting, thanks for the info [Post edited 15 Jul 2021 8:23]
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| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:26 - Jul 15 with 1466 views | Keno |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 07:59 - Jul 15 by pennblue |
Is it really a great tradition?
How many of the 1981 team came from the academy? (genuine question) |
without checking
Burley
Butcher
Osman
McCall
Wark
Gates
Brazil |  |
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| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:37 - Jul 15 with 1397 views | chicoazul |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:00 - Jul 15 by tonybied |
Why?
Cook has said he wants to work with a much smaller squad than anytime recently, this will undoubtedly lead to youth getting a chance when we inevitably get hit with injuries at some point in the season.
The youngsters may not get a prolonged run in the team but they will get a chance to prove themselves in the squad, which is the way it should be. Too much exposure at a young age just leads to too much pressure and injuries as has been the case with too many of our recent graduates. |
Because our new owners are utterly focussed on success now as in in the short term, are not embedded in the traditions of the club, and have (it seems) plenty of money to use. Unless someone like a Dyer or Wright comes through I don’t expect to see many youths at all in and around the first team for a long time. | |
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| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:39 - Jul 15 with 1387 views | chicoazul |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:22 - Jul 15 by pennblue |
interesting, thanks for the info [Post edited 15 Jul 2021 8:23]
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The only time Ipswich have ever had any success has been when there is a core of youth players in the team. 78, 81, 92, 01, 02. | |
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| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:47 - Jul 15 with 1331 views | homer_123 |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:39 - Jul 15 by chicoazul |
The only time Ipswich have ever had any success has been when there is a core of youth players in the team. 78, 81, 92, 01, 02. |
Stop with the ruddy facts will ya |  |
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| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:59 - Jul 15 with 1259 views | Fixed_It |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:26 - Jul 15 by Keno |
without checking
Burley
Butcher
Osman
McCall
Wark
Gates
Brazil |
Yeah - but apart from them... |  |
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| Crooks and Gibson please on 09:05 - Jul 15 with 1226 views | Beckets |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:59 - Jul 15 by Fixed_It |
Yeah - but apart from them... |
Mick Mills was with us from the age of 15/16 as well. |  | | |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 09:12 - Jul 15 with 1186 views | Churchman |
| Crooks and Gibson please on 08:59 - Jul 15 by Fixed_It |
Yeah - but apart from them... |
What have the Romans done for us?
Of the other players, Mills had been at the club more than 10 years, Cooper about 7 or 8 and Mariner 4. The Dutch lads were the only really recent additions.
The real question is how quickly does it take a team/squad to gel? I can’t see it happening overnight and while I want us to hit the ground running, I suspect a little patience will be required - and Americans are not noted for their patience. It’ll be interesting and hopefully fun.
On an upbeat note, I couldn’t have dreamed of this amount of ITFC excitement and optimism 6 months ago. The club has moved in a positive direction I for the first time in years! Bring it on. |  | | |
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