Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans 08:49 - Dec 8 with 3768 views | onceablue | Why the hell did Toto come over to the fans so closely What did he expect a Christmas card If I was him after that performance I would have clapped the fans from 20/30 yards away and headed straight down the tunnel and saved my apologising for today Unfortunately for him he has to take the abuse and walk away. As long as he is criticised for his footballing ability only. He is the one who has decided to put his talent on show in front of thousands of people. Just a small point as well he earns thousands of pounds a week and that aren’t many professions where you can do that but be poor at your job Let’s face it he is not very good and unfortunately these players tend to suffer more abuse than others at times like this I am noting saying this is right by the way and I was not involved as I left straight after their second goal | | | | |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 08:53 - Dec 8 with 2409 views | StokieBlue | The changing of the narrative to make this Totos fault is appalling. SB | |
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Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 08:56 - Dec 8 with 2381 views | Jon_456 | I like the fact he had the balls to walk over properly to the fans and face it. Not the half arsed clap they usually give and walk off as soon as possible. | | | |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 08:58 - Dec 8 with 2349 views | wkj | Im sure if Toto sprinted toward the tunnel, he'd have been chastised for being a coward. | |
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Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:00 - Dec 8 with 2321 views | homer_123 | | |
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Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:01 - Dec 8 with 2308 views | thebooks | Perhaps that would have been wiser, but Toto doesn’t deserve that vitriol. He’s an honest guy who will always talk to fans. FWIW he made a couple of last ditch interceptions last night | | | |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:03 - Dec 8 with 2269 views | homer_123 |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 08:53 - Dec 8 by StokieBlue | The changing of the narrative to make this Totos fault is appalling. SB |
I detest the 'yes but...' thinking on this. | |
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Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:18 - Dec 8 with 2154 views | stringy | Toto got way more grief last night than he deserved; he played no worse than most and tbh the fact the poor so and so had to resort to perpetual hoofs from the back is on the others - no one came to him, everyone hid last night - it felt at times that they had 12 players to our 11. Well played Charlton for doing the basics, but our confidence seemed shot and no one wanted the ball. Some nitwit near me on train last night celebrating that his tweet to Toto that 'he should never wear the shirt again'... seriously? We all know Toto's limitations but the flack he got last night was way out of proportion and ignore the failings of so many others. | | | | Login to get fewer ads
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:19 - Dec 8 with 2122 views | Kieran_Knows | A bit like how he plays, he doesn't think. | |
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Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:21 - Dec 8 with 2101 views | onceablue |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 08:56 - Dec 8 by Jon_456 | I like the fact he had the balls to walk over properly to the fans and face it. Not the half arsed clap they usually give and walk off as soon as possible. |
This isn’t about his ego he is meant to be a professional footballer and is rewarded very handsomely for this He has to walk away end of It won’t be long before you have fans fighting all 11 players on the pitch If you are not the type of person that can take criticism that give up your fantastic lifestyle and rewards and go and do a normal job | | | |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:25 - Dec 8 with 2055 views | onceablue |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:18 - Dec 8 by stringy | Toto got way more grief last night than he deserved; he played no worse than most and tbh the fact the poor so and so had to resort to perpetual hoofs from the back is on the others - no one came to him, everyone hid last night - it felt at times that they had 12 players to our 11. Well played Charlton for doing the basics, but our confidence seemed shot and no one wanted the ball. Some nitwit near me on train last night celebrating that his tweet to Toto that 'he should never wear the shirt again'... seriously? We all know Toto's limitations but the flack he got last night was way out of proportion and ignore the failings of so many others. |
I know but my point is he wouldnt have got that grief if he clapped the fans fron 20/30 yards away as I suggested If you cant handle the heat stay out of the kitchen | | | |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:27 - Dec 8 with 2029 views | clive_baker | And had he not, people would be saying they couldn't even be bothered to acknowledge the fans. He can't win. Not to mention the fact his manager had told all of the players to go over. | |
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Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:28 - Dec 8 with 2014 views | BondiBlue |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:21 - Dec 8 by onceablue | This isn’t about his ego he is meant to be a professional footballer and is rewarded very handsomely for this He has to walk away end of It won’t be long before you have fans fighting all 11 players on the pitch If you are not the type of person that can take criticism that give up your fantastic lifestyle and rewards and go and do a normal job |
Toto would have reacted emotionally because he cares. That for me is a good thing. The fans 2ho were angry also clearly care. That is a good thing. Neither toto nor the fans seemed to have behaved perfectly. Oh well. At least they all care. Lets celebrate that and build on it. | |
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Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:25 - Dec 8 by onceablue | I know but my point is he wouldnt have got that grief if he clapped the fans fron 20/30 yards away as I suggested If you cant handle the heat stay out of the kitchen |
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Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:38 - Dec 8 with 1887 views | Guthrum |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:21 - Dec 8 by onceablue | This isn’t about his ego he is meant to be a professional footballer and is rewarded very handsomely for this He has to walk away end of It won’t be long before you have fans fighting all 11 players on the pitch If you are not the type of person that can take criticism that give up your fantastic lifestyle and rewards and go and do a normal job |
D'you think Nsiala himself might not have been very p1ssed off at what happened on the pitch last night? You're assuming a level of cool detatchment which might not have been there. | |
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Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:42 - Dec 8 with 1840 views | onceablue |
Read my point for gods sake That would not have happened if Nsiala was 20/30 yards No I don’t think it is right players get attacked but when Walton got pushed he was about 3 yards away from fans There was no need for the players to get that close to the fans and that is my point SIMPLE | | | |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:42 - Dec 8 with 1840 views | DJR | I thought Nsiala and the rest of the defence did as well as could be expected last night, given that there was effectively no midfield cover at all. I certainly don't think Nsiala deserved any stick, but then again I have never booed the team in 52 years of supporting them. | | | |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:42 - Dec 8 with 1838 views | Steve_M |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:25 - Dec 8 by onceablue | I know but my point is he wouldnt have got that grief if he clapped the fans fron 20/30 yards away as I suggested If you cant handle the heat stay out of the kitchen |
"If you cant handle the heat stay out of the kitchen" Your last line could apply to a lot of fans last night as well. Precious entitled knobs. [Post edited 8 Dec 2021 9:45]
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Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:43 - Dec 8 with 1826 views | chicoazul | Unfortunately for him he has to take the abuse and walk away. Imagine being the kind of person that thinks like this. I have endured loads of stick in here for pointing out exactly what happened last night; certain POC players are held to a different standard by many Ipswich fans. | |
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Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:45 - Dec 8 with 1788 views | Fixed_It |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:38 - Dec 8 by Guthrum | D'you think Nsiala himself might not have been very p1ssed off at what happened on the pitch last night? You're assuming a level of cool detatchment which might not have been there. |
Straight after a game with adrenalin pumping. I seem to remember our former captain swearing on live TV straight after a match at the Valley. Toto showed that he cares and didn't take the coward's way out at the end of the match. Some of the fans showed that they cared - but in a totally unacceptable way in my opinion. | |
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Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:46 - Dec 8 with 1770 views | onceablue |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:42 - Dec 8 by Steve_M | "If you cant handle the heat stay out of the kitchen" Your last line could apply to a lot of fans last night as well. Precious entitled knobs. [Post edited 8 Dec 2021 9:45]
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Totally agree with you that’s why I left the kitchen when they scored the second Knew it would get toxic I walked away exactly what Toto should have done in all honesty | | | |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:46 - Dec 8 with 1762 views | BondiBlue |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:42 - Dec 8 by onceablue | Read my point for gods sake That would not have happened if Nsiala was 20/30 yards No I don’t think it is right players get attacked but when Walton got pushed he was about 3 yards away from fans There was no need for the players to get that close to the fans and that is my point SIMPLE |
Unfortunately your argument sounds a lot like the one in which the solution to rape is girls wearing more clothes. | |
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Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:50 - Dec 8 with 1718 views | onceablue |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:45 - Dec 8 by Fixed_It | Straight after a game with adrenalin pumping. I seem to remember our former captain swearing on live TV straight after a match at the Valley. Toto showed that he cares and didn't take the coward's way out at the end of the match. Some of the fans showed that they cared - but in a totally unacceptable way in my opinion. |
Don’t understand why you think he would have been a coward if he clapped the fans from 20 yards So not to be coward you have to get in a heated situation that is never going to end well You have a strange opinion about what being cowardly is | | | |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:50 - Dec 8 with 1709 views | chicoazul |
Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:46 - Dec 8 by onceablue | Totally agree with you that’s why I left the kitchen when they scored the second Knew it would get toxic I walked away exactly what Toto should have done in all honesty |
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Nsiala was stupid coming oVer to Fans on 09:51 - Dec 8 with 1691 views | 44_not_out | I made this point in another post….. Toto went looking for a row. Was the abuse justified? Probably…. It was woeful and the ‘you’re not fit to wear the shirt’ was also fair. Confronting players on the pitch is crossing a line, I agree. Toto was unprofessional, simple. Had it have been Norwood, this board would have been in meltdown. Toto appears to be this ‘nice guy’, and probably is, but that does not change the fact he’s been stealing a living for 3 seasons. | | | |
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