| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? 08:28 - Jul 7 with 1563 views | giant_stow |
Or would doing that be some kind of tactical no no? |  |
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| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:32 - Jul 7 with 1527 views | BlueRaider |
They could call a vote of no confidence in the government, which if successful would lead to a general election. Given it would probably be only a 6 week turnaround the Tories would be unable to have concluded any leadership election and would go into it with either the lying deluded buffoon or a caretaker. Either way they would be toast.
For this reason it is unlikely that sufficient Conservative MPs would vote for a Labour motion for it to succeed |  |
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| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:36 - Jul 7 with 1505 views | Guthrum |
They would have to win a vote in the House to do so. Which would still be unlikely, as Conservative MPs would not want to risk losing their seats at a time of considerable unpopularity, trailing in the polls. |  |
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| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:36 - Jul 7 with 1501 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:32 - Jul 7 by BlueRaider |
They could call a vote of no confidence in the government, which if successful would lead to a general election. Given it would probably be only a 6 week turnaround the Tories would be unable to have concluded any leadership election and would go into it with either the lying deluded buffoon or a caretaker. Either way they would be toast.
For this reason it is unlikely that sufficient Conservative MPs would vote for a Labour motion for it to succeed |
Presumably Raab would step in if they could get rid of Johnson. That’d be comedy gold. |  |
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| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:39 - Jul 7 with 1476 views | Mookamoo |
There must be some kind of parliamentary mechanism to get rid of a government that can't function. I guess a vote of no confidence is the only real option.
I know the 1922 committee will change the rules to force him out, we can't surely be in a position where the internal workings of a political party determine a dictator's future. What would happen if the Chair of the 1922 committee was a staunch Boris supporter and refused to entertain the idea? |  | | |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:40 - Jul 7 with 1464 views | Fixed_It |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:36 - Jul 7 by Guthrum |
They would have to win a vote in the House to do so. Which would still be unlikely, as Conservative MPs would not want to risk losing their seats at a time of considerable unpopularity, trailing in the polls. |
So the Tories would pretend they support a PM who they clearly don't support or have confidence in in order to look out for themselves to the detriment of the country?!
Imagine my shock at this revelation!! |  |
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| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:44 - Jul 7 with 1435 views | GavTWTD |
I think the cabinet can have a vote of no confidence which is one route. They all seem to suggest the 1922 committee is the last resort on Monday but Shirley he'll recognise he can't fill all those ministerial positions and will be gone today. |  |
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| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:45 - Jul 7 with 1423 views | pointofblue |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:39 - Jul 7 by Mookamoo |
There must be some kind of parliamentary mechanism to get rid of a government that can't function. I guess a vote of no confidence is the only real option.
I know the 1922 committee will change the rules to force him out, we can't surely be in a position where the internal workings of a political party determine a dictator's future. What would happen if the Chair of the 1922 committee was a staunch Boris supporter and refused to entertain the idea? |
The government is untenable now as too many ministers have resigned with not enough people to replace them. That’s how they’ll get him to go if the 1922 Committee doesn’t intervene - by basically quitting one by one until there’s only Rees-Mogg and Dorries clinging to the wreckage. | |
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| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:50 - Jul 7 with 1410 views | Guthrum |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:44 - Jul 7 by GavTWTD |
I think the cabinet can have a vote of no confidence which is one route. They all seem to suggest the 1922 committee is the last resort on Monday but Shirley he'll recognise he can't fill all those ministerial positions and will be gone today. |
In theory, the Queen could dismiss her Prime Minister if they no longer head a functional government. Would be constitutionally tricky, tho. | |
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| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 09:19 - Jul 7 with 1328 views | giant_stow |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:32 - Jul 7 by BlueRaider |
They could call a vote of no confidence in the government, which if successful would lead to a general election. Given it would probably be only a 6 week turnaround the Tories would be unable to have concluded any leadership election and would go into it with either the lying deluded buffoon or a caretaker. Either way they would be toast.
For this reason it is unlikely that sufficient Conservative MPs would vote for a Labour motion for it to succeed |
This is the bit I don't get though: in a confidence motion, all those tory mps who've just resigned because the have no confidence in the pm, would then have to vote to say they had confidence in his government. To me that's beyond mental and I know hardly any of them have any scruples (otherwise we wouldn't be here) but could they really conrradict themselves so directly and immediately like that and get away with it?
Edit- just seen the news. Sorry! [Post edited 7 Jul 2022 9:21]
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| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 09:23 - Jul 7 with 1304 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:40 - Jul 7 by Fixed_It |
So the Tories would pretend they support a PM who they clearly don't support or have confidence in in order to look out for themselves to the detriment of the country?!
Imagine my shock at this revelation!! |
It would be like Turkeys voting to add a second Christmas Day in June. |  |
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| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 10:17 - Jul 7 with 1250 views | DMDC |
Labour are a bigger mess than the Torries. |  | | |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 10:21 - Jul 7 with 1244 views | Butterbing |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 10:17 - Jul 7 by DMDC |
Labour are a bigger mess than the Torries. |
I’m not a Labour voter but this post is just utterly delusional. How in hell did you come to that conclusion? |  | | |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 10:22 - Jul 7 with 1234 views | STYG |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 10:17 - Jul 7 by DMDC |
Labour are a bigger mess than the Torries. |
This is up there with Cheltenham have a better squad than Manchester City for mind-blowingly mental.
WTAF?
Labour may not be the best Labour opposition there's ever been but you're suggesting they are worse than a party who've had 50 resign since Tuesday night?
I think you're troll status is now quite evident. | | | |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 10:29 - Jul 7 with 1196 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:32 - Jul 7 by BlueRaider |
They could call a vote of no confidence in the government, which if successful would lead to a general election. Given it would probably be only a 6 week turnaround the Tories would be unable to have concluded any leadership election and would go into it with either the lying deluded buffoon or a caretaker. Either way they would be toast.
For this reason it is unlikely that sufficient Conservative MPs would vote for a Labour motion for it to succeed |
And any Tory MP voting that way in a formal No Confidence vote would be deselected and thrown out of the Party.
That is the real reason why Labour haven't been able to do this in recent weeks. The numbers just aren't there. It's easier to persuade the odd one or two to cross the floor with the promise that they will be the Labour candidate in the next election than to get them to vote against their party in a No Confidence vote. | | | |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 11:37 - Jul 7 with 1136 views | ElderGrizzly |
Starmer has just said if Johnson stays on, they will call the vote of no confidence in the Govt
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| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 14:06 - Jul 7 with 1045 views | Mookamoo |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 08:45 - Jul 7 by pointofblue |
The government is untenable now as too many ministers have resigned with not enough people to replace them. That’s how they’ll get him to go if the 1922 Committee doesn’t intervene - by basically quitting one by one until there’s only Rees-Mogg and Dorries clinging to the wreckage. |
Given that he thinks he can hang about until the autumn, it does leave a few more questions.
If he can't fill the cabinet vacancies from within his own party because it is seen as politically damaging, what happens then? He could, as I understand, appoint unelected non-MPs to the cabinet. It is only convention that has previously determined that the senior cabinet members have to be elected MPs - or is that wrong?
Whats stopping him appointing an interim selection of complete nutters? | | | |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 18:44 - Jul 7 with 927 views | Gogs |
| Can't labour call a vote of no confidence in parliment, to get rid of him? on 10:17 - Jul 7 by DMDC |
Labour are a bigger mess than the Torries. |
kindly show your workings please! |  | | |
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