| Celina to Stoke 09:48 - Jul 13 with 10919 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Apologies if discussed already. |  |
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| Celina to Stoke on 09:56 - Jul 13 with 6210 views | itfcjoe |
Sadly think you'll be right |  |
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| Celina to Stoke on 10:01 - Jul 13 with 6128 views | Bobbychase |
Wonder if he has ever visited. It is a proper dump. All of it |  |
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| Celina to Stoke on 10:05 - Jul 13 with 6048 views | textbackup |
Wonder how he’ll do on a cold Tuesday night |  |
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| Celina to Stoke on 10:07 - Jul 13 with 6000 views | BlueBadger |
| Celina to Stoke on 10:01 - Jul 13 by Bobbychase |
Wonder if he has ever visited. It is a proper dump. All of it |
He's survived two seasons in Ipswich, he'll probably be alright. |  |
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| Celina to Stoke on 10:08 - Jul 13 with 6019 views | abracaDOBRA_ |
They have met dijons fee (like us). It's all down to personal terms which we havent agreed yet. But town and celina are miles apart atm in terms of wage structure. |  | | |
| Celina to Stoke on 10:09 - Jul 13 with 5953 views | clive_baker |
Shame if he's not wearing a Town shirt for this season, he's a player who is worth the entrance fee. But can't blame the guy if they're offering him more money and football at a higher level. |  |
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| Celina to Stoke on 10:12 - Jul 13 with 5878 views | STYG |
| Celina to Stoke on 10:08 - Jul 13 by abracaDOBRA_ |
They have met dijons fee (like us). It's all down to personal terms which we havent agreed yet. But town and celina are miles apart atm in terms of wage structure. |
Oh well. That'll properly test Celina's affinity for the club.
Play in League One for us on £10k a week (which I'm guessing would be our absolute limit - if Pigott and Morsy are on £8k - £10k) or go to Stoke for £12k or £15k and play a division above.
If he ends up here then he really does love us. Will largely come down to how much he rates McKenna getting us up and his wage being increased to Stoke levels I guess.
Also don't see him being a Michael O'Neill type player, so I suppose there's the playing every week to take into account. |  | | |
| Celina to Stoke on 10:15 - Jul 13 with 5780 views | STYG |
| Celina to Stoke on 10:08 - Jul 13 by abracaDOBRA_ |
They have met dijons fee (like us). It's all down to personal terms which we havent agreed yet. But town and celina are miles apart atm in terms of wage structure. |
With all due to respect to Celina and his team, surely they had a pretty good idea what we could go to before we got as far as making a bid.
I can understand not having agreed anything, but being miles apart seems odd. If he was on £20k there and knew we'd be unlikely to offer more than say £10k or even £12k, surely the terms side of things is ruled in or out before we get this far?
Surely he can't expect we just pay him 1.5 - 2 times more than everyone else in the first team? | | | |
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| Celina to Stoke on 10:28 - Jul 13 with 5549 views | BiGDonnie |
| Celina to Stoke on 09:56 - Jul 13 by itfcjoe |
Sadly think you'll be right |
I'm not seeing him linked to Stoke anywhere? We know the OP's a a troll but you've said it... |  |
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| Celina to Stoke on 10:44 - Jul 13 with 5344 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Celina to Stoke on 10:28 - Jul 13 by BiGDonnie |
I'm not seeing him linked to Stoke anywhere? We know the OP's a a troll but you've said it... |
I beg your pardon?!
Think you have me confused somewhat old boy.
My Stokie mates say its a done deal. | |
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| Celina to Stoke on 10:46 - Jul 13 with 5314 views | Radlett_blue |
| Celina to Stoke on 10:15 - Jul 13 by STYG |
With all due to respect to Celina and his team, surely they had a pretty good idea what we could go to before we got as far as making a bid.
I can understand not having agreed anything, but being miles apart seems odd. If he was on £20k there and knew we'd be unlikely to offer more than say £10k or even £12k, surely the terms side of things is ruled in or out before we get this far?
Surely he can't expect we just pay him 1.5 - 2 times more than everyone else in the first team? |
As Celina is still contracted to Dijon, surely they are still paying his wages in full & the deciding factor will be which club is willing to pay the biggest % of these wages to Dijon, as long as Celina is willing to go there? |  |
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| Celina to Stoke on 10:48 - Jul 13 with 5257 views | Illinoisblue |
Probably time to move on from him. |  |
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| Celina to Stoke on 10:48 - Jul 13 with 5275 views | abracaDOBRA_ |
| Celina to Stoke on 10:15 - Jul 13 by STYG |
With all due to respect to Celina and his team, surely they had a pretty good idea what we could go to before we got as far as making a bid.
I can understand not having agreed anything, but being miles apart seems odd. If he was on £20k there and knew we'd be unlikely to offer more than say £10k or even £12k, surely the terms side of things is ruled in or out before we get this far?
Surely he can't expect we just pay him 1.5 - 2 times more than everyone else in the first team? |
All i'll say is celina is still hoping we make a last min push for him , he wants to be here. But got to put himself first if we are messing about. | | | |
| Celina to Stoke on 10:48 - Jul 13 with 5244 views | berkstractorboy |
Hopefully this gives MA an 11th hour chance to sort things or we move on but hope the club can come out and be honest how this has fallen through. the whole he was nearly in and then suddenly miles apart is all very odd and maybe the real truth is we were never close. If we can't afford it due to FFP and wage structure, tell us fans and we will get over it but all the mystery never helps | | | |
| Celina to Stoke on 10:49 - Jul 13 with 5211 views | Guthrum |
Can't really blame him for being tempted by the prospect of playing at a higher level, in a team which was in the Prem just four years ago. |  |
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| Celina to Stoke on 10:52 - Jul 13 with 5168 views | Guthrum |
| Celina to Stoke on 10:48 - Jul 13 by berkstractorboy |
Hopefully this gives MA an 11th hour chance to sort things or we move on but hope the club can come out and be honest how this has fallen through. the whole he was nearly in and then suddenly miles apart is all very odd and maybe the real truth is we were never close. If we can't afford it due to FFP and wage structure, tell us fans and we will get over it but all the mystery never helps |
Has anyone officially said either that he was close to signing or that we are 'miles apart'? I haven't actually seen any comment either way from the club itself. | |
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| Celina to Stoke on 10:59 - Jul 13 with 5008 views | STYG |
| Celina to Stoke on 10:46 - Jul 13 by Radlett_blue |
As Celina is still contracted to Dijon, surely they are still paying his wages in full & the deciding factor will be which club is willing to pay the biggest % of these wages to Dijon, as long as Celina is willing to go there? |
I was assuming both clubs had offered to take him permanently, in which case Dijon would have no interest in the wage aspect and that we and Stoke have met the asking price.
Obviously if both offers are loan then unless we match Stoke we obviously won't have a chance. | | | |
| Celina to Stoke on 11:00 - Jul 13 with 4977 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| Celina to Stoke on 09:56 - Jul 13 by itfcjoe |
Sadly think you'll be right |
I would LOVE us to sign Celina, but if we put the money we've put aside to sign him to getting a striker who offers more goals than who we have I'd be happy. |  |
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| Celina to Stoke on 11:01 - Jul 13 with 4964 views | STYG |
| Celina to Stoke on 10:52 - Jul 13 by Guthrum |
Has anyone officially said either that he was close to signing or that we are 'miles apart'? I haven't actually seen any comment either way from the club itself. |
What are the club going to tweet?
'We're trying to get Santi back but Dijon are DELUDED if they think we are paying that' PMSL #NotPayingMoreThanGrealish | | | |
| Celina to Stoke on 11:01 - Jul 13 with 4969 views | berkstractorboy |
| Celina to Stoke on 10:52 - Jul 13 by Guthrum |
Has anyone officially said either that he was close to signing or that we are 'miles apart'? I haven't actually seen any comment either way from the club itself. |
No the club haven't or reputable sources close to the club. When there is a player that wants to be here, the fans want him to be, if you are building a community and you want fans to trust the club as they are with the high numbers of ST sales etc doesn't there need to be some honest comms. Not now while things are still live I am talking after whatever is done is done with Stoke.
BTW, I don't trust what Cruncher posting on twitter ignoring him but ADOBRA seems to be ITK and think there is some truth in what he is sharing. | | | |
| Celina to Stoke on 11:02 - Jul 13 with 4915 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| Celina to Stoke on 09:56 - Jul 13 by itfcjoe |
Sadly think you'll be right |
I would LOVE us to sign Celina, but if we put the money we've put aside to sign him to getting a striker who offers more goals than who we have I'd be happy. | |
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| Celina to Stoke on 11:04 - Jul 13 with 4884 views | abracaDOBRA_ |
| Celina to Stoke on 11:01 - Jul 13 by berkstractorboy |
No the club haven't or reputable sources close to the club. When there is a player that wants to be here, the fans want him to be, if you are building a community and you want fans to trust the club as they are with the high numbers of ST sales etc doesn't there need to be some honest comms. Not now while things are still live I am talking after whatever is done is done with Stoke.
BTW, I don't trust what Cruncher posting on twitter ignoring him but ADOBRA seems to be ITK and think there is some truth in what he is sharing. |
I dont make things up. All i'll say is celina is a great guy. | | | |
| Celina to Stoke on 11:10 - Jul 13 with 4734 views | Radlett_blue |
| Celina to Stoke on 10:59 - Jul 13 by STYG |
I was assuming both clubs had offered to take him permanently, in which case Dijon would have no interest in the wage aspect and that we and Stoke have met the asking price.
Obviously if both offers are loan then unless we match Stoke we obviously won't have a chance. |
Good point. Celina still has 2 years left on his Dijon contract. I guess they would love a sale rather than a loan, but if it's permanent Stoke (plus other Championship clubs) must be able to offer him a far better contract than Town so hard to see him coming here. | |
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| Celina to Stoke on 11:12 - Jul 13 with 4705 views | STYG |
| Celina to Stoke on 11:10 - Jul 13 by Radlett_blue |
Good point. Celina still has 2 years left on his Dijon contract. I guess they would love a sale rather than a loan, but if it's permanent Stoke (plus other Championship clubs) must be able to offer him a far better contract than Town so hard to see him coming here. |
From what Joe and a few others have said, we seem to be able to offer a deal at the same level of 2/3 of Championship clubs but with a significant enough promotion bonus to take them above that.
So could come down to, over a 3 or 4 year deal say, whether Celina is prepared to gamble we go up in year 1 or 2. | | | |
| Celina to Stoke on 11:12 - Jul 13 with 4696 views | Metal_Hacker |
If true and I’m afraid to say , it’s time we moved on perhaps although I dare say we have a contingency plan but this is probably stalling other movements now etc |  |
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