| Vicious circle 13:55 - Jul 18 with 2749 views | SitfcB |
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So people are saying this heat we’ve been getting is due to climate change but wonder how many cars, vans, lorries etc have been running all day to power the aircon?! |  |
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| Vicious circle on 14:05 - Jul 18 with 1931 views | J2BLUE |
That's not half as clever as the Twitter account you stole it from thinks it is. |  |
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| Vicious circle on 14:11 - Jul 18 with 1858 views | davblue |
| Vicious circle on 14:05 - Jul 18 by J2BLUE |
That's not half as clever as the Twitter account you stole it from thinks it is. |
what i don't get is he can quite clearly see the difference between a fake transfer rumor account and a legit one, but takes everything else as gospel that's on twitter about climate, Covid and can't see through the rubbish. |  | | |
| Vicious circle on 14:12 - Jul 18 with 1858 views | Ewan_Oozami |
Good point Sitters, indeed I myself have been running my car in the drive all day with the aircon set to max with a high power air pump attached to an HVAC duct which runs from the car to my house.... |  |
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| Vicious circle on 14:17 - Jul 18 with 1813 views | lowhouseblue |
| Vicious circle on 14:05 - Jul 18 by J2BLUE |
That's not half as clever as the Twitter account you stole it from thinks it is. |
to be fair, and i don't know what the answer is with respect to overheating in vehicles, but it does point out how badly prepared we are for hot weather, and how a lot of our immediate responses are energy intensive. we need, for example, to adapt buildings to cope better. i'm sitting here trying to design brise soleil for my south facing windows. or french style shutters? we really all need to avoid going down the domestic air con route if this weather is going to be more regular. without changing buildings, and as people move to heat pumps for heating, there's a danger that they use them for cooling in the summer and we just end using even more energy |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Vicious circle on 14:27 - Jul 18 with 1734 views | DanTheMan |
| Vicious circle on 14:17 - Jul 18 by lowhouseblue |
to be fair, and i don't know what the answer is with respect to overheating in vehicles, but it does point out how badly prepared we are for hot weather, and how a lot of our immediate responses are energy intensive. we need, for example, to adapt buildings to cope better. i'm sitting here trying to design brise soleil for my south facing windows. or french style shutters? we really all need to avoid going down the domestic air con route if this weather is going to be more regular. without changing buildings, and as people move to heat pumps for heating, there's a danger that they use them for cooling in the summer and we just end using even more energy |
Gonna be fun to make houses both very good at insulating heat for the more extreme winters and then very good and not insulating it for the hot summers.
We are badly prepared, but we didn't have to be if people had heeded decades worth of warnings.
I'm not sure I could really have a good at people for putting any cooling mechanism into their home to make it livable. What we really should have been doing is getting our national grid running on green(er) energy, then it wouldn't be such an issue.
What a mess eh? |  |
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| Vicious circle on 14:32 - Jul 18 with 1677 views | lowhouseblue |
| Vicious circle on 14:27 - Jul 18 by DanTheMan |
Gonna be fun to make houses both very good at insulating heat for the more extreme winters and then very good and not insulating it for the hot summers.
We are badly prepared, but we didn't have to be if people had heeded decades worth of warnings.
I'm not sure I could really have a good at people for putting any cooling mechanism into their home to make it livable. What we really should have been doing is getting our national grid running on green(er) energy, then it wouldn't be such an issue.
What a mess eh? |
agree what a mess.
there are good non-energy intensive ways of making even old houses more livable in heat - eg shading in various forms, ways of creating chimney effects and controlling where you draw air from (ie colder places).
with new builds it's very easy to design houses that are good in both the hot and cold. thermal mass works both ways. good brise soleil shade in the summer sun but still let you get thermal gain in the winter. you can angle and shape windows to achieve the same effect. just by getting the orientation of a new build right you can have a big, zero energy, effect. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Vicious circle on 14:32 - Jul 18 with 1677 views | SitfcB |
| Vicious circle on 14:05 - Jul 18 by J2BLUE |
That's not half as clever as the Twitter account you stole it from thinks it is. |
Ha, I’m not 12th man boi, can think for myself. | |
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| Vicious circle on 14:32 - Jul 18 with 1673 views | clive_baker |
| Vicious circle on 14:05 - Jul 18 by J2BLUE |
That's not half as clever as the Twitter account you stole it from thinks it is. |
I think I'm the biggest moron here as I'm not even sure what point this OP is supposed to be making tbh. |  |
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| Vicious circle on 14:33 - Jul 18 with 1645 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Vicious circle on 14:32 - Jul 18 by clive_baker |
I think I'm the biggest moron here as I'm not even sure what point this OP is supposed to be making tbh. |
I'm the joint biggest moron then, as I don't get it either.
Sitters - care to elaborate? |  |
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| Vicious circle on 14:34 - Jul 18 with 1649 views | SitfcB |
| Vicious circle on 14:32 - Jul 18 by clive_baker |
I think I'm the biggest moron here as I'm not even sure what point this OP is supposed to be making tbh. |
No point? I didn’t realise it was that deep, just a thought because I’ve been sat in a lorry all day with air con on. | |
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| Vicious circle on 14:42 - Jul 18 with 1558 views | solomon |
EV’s have air con too, you understand this I assume? |  | | |
| Vicious circle on 14:44 - Jul 18 with 1526 views | BloomBlue |
| Vicious circle on 14:17 - Jul 18 by lowhouseblue |
to be fair, and i don't know what the answer is with respect to overheating in vehicles, but it does point out how badly prepared we are for hot weather, and how a lot of our immediate responses are energy intensive. we need, for example, to adapt buildings to cope better. i'm sitting here trying to design brise soleil for my south facing windows. or french style shutters? we really all need to avoid going down the domestic air con route if this weather is going to be more regular. without changing buildings, and as people move to heat pumps for heating, there's a danger that they use them for cooling in the summer and we just end using even more energy |
The irony with housing is insulation makes the house hotter as the heat once it's in cannot escape.
Which is a bit catch22 as we demand more insulation to prevent heat lose and reduce fuel costs in winter but if our summers are getting hotter for longer we'll have more and more people installing aircon and then is the extra energy that uses offsetting the energy saved in the winter? |  | | |
| Vicious circle on 14:49 - Jul 18 with 1471 views | BlueBadger |
| Vicious circle on 14:32 - Jul 18 by SitfcB |
Ha, I’m not 12th man boi, can think for myself. |
And yet, here you are retweeting climate change sceptic whatabouttery. |  |
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| Vicious circle on 14:51 - Jul 18 with 1442 views | SitfcB |
| Vicious circle on 14:49 - Jul 18 by BlueBadger |
And yet, here you are retweeting climate change sceptic whatabouttery. |
Retweeting? You and J2 have lost me. [Post edited 18 Jul 2022 14:51]
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| Vicious circle on 14:51 - Jul 18 with 1440 views | BlueBadger |
| Vicious circle on 14:11 - Jul 18 by davblue |
what i don't get is he can quite clearly see the difference between a fake transfer rumor account and a legit one, but takes everything else as gospel that's on twitter about climate, Covid and can't see through the rubbish. |
Sitters badly, badly wants to be a TWTD edglelord. Trouble is, he's chosen Wallers(himself a tragic Blueas tribute act, at best) as his role model rather than trying to find his own thing. [Post edited 18 Jul 2022 14:52]
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| Vicious circle on 14:51 - Jul 18 with 1429 views | Keno |
well but surely if everyone opens their windows and puts aircon then it will help cool the air down!!
sorted!! |  |
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| Vicious circle on 14:52 - Jul 18 with 1412 views | lowhouseblue |
| Vicious circle on 14:44 - Jul 18 by BloomBlue |
The irony with housing is insulation makes the house hotter as the heat once it's in cannot escape.
Which is a bit catch22 as we demand more insulation to prevent heat lose and reduce fuel costs in winter but if our summers are getting hotter for longer we'll have more and more people installing aircon and then is the extra energy that uses offsetting the energy saved in the winter? |
partly then a question of avoiding it accumulating heat in the first place - shading, flushing cold air through etc. but thermal mass can also make the inside temperature lag a long way behind the external temperature - which should stabilise the internal temp at an acceptable level. i've been involved as the client in the design of accommodation and most recently went for a concrete frame structure (which is counter intuitive because of the embodied energy) cos when we modelled the likely summer temperatures at the end of the century the thermal mass of concrete meant that the building would be much better in terms of passive cooling. light weight highly insulated structure seem to do much less well with passive cooling. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Vicious circle on 14:54 - Jul 18 with 1390 views | jeera |
| Vicious circle on 14:51 - Jul 18 by Keno |
well but surely if everyone opens their windows and puts aircon then it will help cool the air down!!
sorted!! |
I think that's what people must be doing around here as we just had a power cut.
A power cut. In Summer!
All those fans at once I guess, must be a heck of a strain on the system. |  |
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| Vicious circle on 14:55 - Jul 18 with 1372 views | SitfcB |
| Vicious circle on 14:42 - Jul 18 by solomon |
EV’s have air con too, you understand this I assume? |
Yes, and? | |
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| Vicious circle on 14:57 - Jul 18 with 1347 views | Illinoisblue |
| Vicious circle on 14:32 - Jul 18 by lowhouseblue |
agree what a mess.
there are good non-energy intensive ways of making even old houses more livable in heat - eg shading in various forms, ways of creating chimney effects and controlling where you draw air from (ie colder places).
with new builds it's very easy to design houses that are good in both the hot and cold. thermal mass works both ways. good brise soleil shade in the summer sun but still let you get thermal gain in the winter. you can angle and shape windows to achieve the same effect. just by getting the orientation of a new build right you can have a big, zero energy, effect. |
Why don’t houses in the UK have basements? Very common over here and lovey and cool in the summer. |  |
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| Vicious circle on 14:58 - Jul 18 with 1334 views | jeera |
| Vicious circle on 14:57 - Jul 18 by Illinoisblue |
Why don’t houses in the UK have basements? Very common over here and lovey and cool in the summer. |
Everything's done on the cheap and sold at a premium. | |
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| Vicious circle on 14:58 - Jul 18 with 1333 views | lowhouseblue |
| Vicious circle on 14:57 - Jul 18 by Illinoisblue |
Why don’t houses in the UK have basements? Very common over here and lovey and cool in the summer. |
plus that's where you can take cold air from to flush the hot air from the house. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Vicious circle on 14:59 - Jul 18 with 1323 views | tonybied |
| Vicious circle on 14:44 - Jul 18 by BloomBlue |
The irony with housing is insulation makes the house hotter as the heat once it's in cannot escape.
Which is a bit catch22 as we demand more insulation to prevent heat lose and reduce fuel costs in winter but if our summers are getting hotter for longer we'll have more and more people installing aircon and then is the extra energy that uses offsetting the energy saved in the winter? |
The key with a well insulated house is you don't let the warm air in then the house stays cool as the insulation works the same way in hot weather. It works just like a flask, you can put hot tea in one in the winter and it'll keep warm and you can put cold juice on one in the summer and it stays cool. |  | | |
| Vicious circle on 15:06 - Jul 18 with 1269 views | jeera |
| Vicious circle on 14:59 - Jul 18 by tonybied |
The key with a well insulated house is you don't let the warm air in then the house stays cool as the insulation works the same way in hot weather. It works just like a flask, you can put hot tea in one in the winter and it'll keep warm and you can put cold juice on one in the summer and it stays cool. |
Quite.
I've managed to keep it down to 24° indoors with no fans on so far, although it is creeping up now.
Closed all windows and curtains late last night and left them that way. Living room curtains are light coloured so plenty of light coming through but enough to help stave off the direct heat.
I have had to now use the front door a couple of times which has blown things somewhat but it was pleasant enough while it lasted. | |
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| Vicious circle on 15:07 - Jul 18 with 1254 views | SitfcB |
| Vicious circle on 14:57 - Jul 18 by Illinoisblue |
Why don’t houses in the UK have basements? Very common over here and lovey and cool in the summer. |
New build houses don’t even have proper gardens these days. | |
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