| How good is our defensive record under KM? 12:58 - Aug 18 with 2581 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
Well, at 15 Goals Against in 27 League matches, we would average 26 Goals Against over a 46 game season.
To put that into perspective, the Arsenal Invincibles team hold the English top division record for games without defeat, at 49 games. During those 49 games they conceded 35 Goals. That would average out at 33 Goals Against over a 46 game season.
We have a superior defensive record than the most coherent defensive unit seen in post-war English football, during their peak period!
Now I'm not saying that Luke Woolfenden is better than Tony Adams, but Christian Walton definitely wouldn't have fallen on his Arsenal back-pedalling for that Ronaldinho free kick. |  | | |  |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 12:59 - Aug 18 with 2072 views | Kieran_Knows |
More clean sheets than goals conceded, I read earlier. |  |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:00 - Aug 18 with 2056 views | LeoMuff |
Very impressive, haven’t conceded yet this season from open play in the league |  |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:01 - Aug 18 with 2052 views | homer_123 |
And the majority of those games have been with JD, LW and GE in there and Walton in goal. |  |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:09 - Aug 18 with 1973 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:00 - Aug 18 by LeoMuff |
Very impressive, haven’t conceded yet this season from open play in the league |
FGR ? |  |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:13 - Aug 18 with 1954 views | jayessess |
Concede less than 35 in a 46-game season and you're almost guaranteed to finish top 2.
That said, I think our defensive record thus far this season slightly flatters us. We are giving up more chances than we were second half of last season. [Post edited 18 Aug 2022 13:14]
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:19 - Aug 18 with 1912 views | Dyland |
Think we've been a bit spawny as well though... |  |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:20 - Aug 18 with 1909 views | textbackup |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 12:59 - Aug 18 by Kieran_Knows |
More clean sheets than goals conceded, I read earlier. |
so, to clarify, are you telling me you dont need to be a team only set up to stop the opposition.....
theres also the possiblity of doing that AND play attacking attractive football too???
it took a while, and the league below, but i was careful what i wished for |  |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:21 - Aug 18 with 1892 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
It’s a brilliant record. It doesn’t stop our centre backs getting regular pelters from some on here though. | | | |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:22 - Aug 18 with 1851 views | LeoMuff |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:09 - Aug 18 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
FGR ? |
Oh yes, forgot that one ! | |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:23 - Aug 18 with 1844 views | textbackup |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:21 - Aug 18 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
It’s a brilliant record. It doesn’t stop our centre backs getting regular pelters from some on here though. |
come on lets not be silly, saying a player has had a sloppy game isnt pelters, its an observation that they've not been their normal 8/9 out of 10 that we are becoming used to | |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:37 - Aug 18 with 1795 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:23 - Aug 18 by textbackup |
come on lets not be silly, saying a player has had a sloppy game isnt pelters, its an observation that they've not been their normal 8/9 out of 10 that we are becoming used to |
I’m not talking about that - but wacky takes like the other day some poster saying we need to replace Wolfie and Edmundsson with two new defenders. | | | |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:43 - Aug 18 with 1756 views | textbackup |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:37 - Aug 18 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I’m not talking about that - but wacky takes like the other day some poster saying we need to replace Wolfie and Edmundsson with two new defenders. |
ah, didnt see that, sorry | |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:44 - Aug 18 with 1759 views | Illinoisblue |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:37 - Aug 18 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I’m not talking about that - but wacky takes like the other day some poster saying we need to replace Wolfie and Edmundsson with two new defenders. |
Who on earth said that? Two of the best defenders in L1. |  |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 14:19 - Aug 18 with 1658 views | Pendejo |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:19 - Aug 18 by Dyland |
Think we've been a bit spawny as well though... |
As we were in 14/15, but then there's a saying; you make your own luck |  |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 14:29 - Aug 18 with 1609 views | Dyland |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 14:19 - Aug 18 by Pendejo |
As we were in 14/15, but then there's a saying; you make your own luck |
Not sure how making your own luck applies to the oppo missing sitters :) | |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 01:56 - Aug 19 with 1343 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 14:29 - Aug 18 by Dyland |
Not sure how making your own luck applies to the oppo missing sitters :) |
The confidence and presence of the goalkeeper has an awful lot to do with strikers missing sitters.
And if he has already saved a couple of one on one's then the attacker is going to be in two minds the next time, thinking about whether to do something different.
It all adds up.
You used to see it with Peter Schmeichel. Certain strikers would be put through, Schmeichel would advance and make himself big and you just knew that they weren't going to score. You could see them having doubts.
So Walton's brilliant saves lead to sitters being missed as well. | | | |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 07:56 - Aug 19 with 1195 views | DJR |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 13:44 - Aug 18 by Illinoisblue |
Who on earth said that? Two of the best defenders in L1. |
Agreed. In any event, it's early in the season, and all of our players (except Walton) have made mistakes. It's just that defensive mistakes can be more costly. Of course, we could eliminate them by getting our defenders to hoof the ball, but that's not the way we are set up to play. The good thing is that our other defenders normally cover if one makes a mistake, and as a last resort we have Fortresss Walton to save the day. |  | | |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 08:23 - Aug 19 with 1143 views | itfcjoe |
I’ve just posted this on Twitter, as spotted a bit of nonsense this week that they are shaky, or don’t play well together etc. Woolf and Fridge together is the absolute nuts.
When Luke Woolfenden and George Edmundson both start for #ITFC under McKenna
Played 18
Won 11
Drawn 5
Lost 2
Goals conceded 7
Clean sheets 12 |  |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 08:32 - Aug 19 with 1093 views | Stewart27 |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 08:23 - Aug 19 by itfcjoe |
I’ve just posted this on Twitter, as spotted a bit of nonsense this week that they are shaky, or don’t play well together etc. Woolf and Fridge together is the absolute nuts.
When Luke Woolfenden and George Edmundson both start for #ITFC under McKenna
Played 18
Won 11
Drawn 5
Lost 2
Goals conceded 7
Clean sheets 12 |
So we don’t think it’s time to pull Burgess in?! | | | |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 08:34 - Aug 19 with 1077 views | Metal_Hacker |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 08:32 - Aug 19 by Stewart27 |
So we don’t think it’s time to pull Burgess in?! |
It'd be wiser to pull him in than pull him off |  |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 08:39 - Aug 19 with 1053 views | DJR |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 08:32 - Aug 19 by Stewart27 |
So we don’t think it’s time to pull Burgess in?! |
The one thing that Burgess has in his favour is that he is probably better in the air because he is taller, so perhaps a better option than Keogh to have on the bench and bring on in a game when we are facing a barrage. | | | |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 08:46 - Aug 19 with 1017 views | itfcjoe |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 08:39 - Aug 19 by DJR |
The one thing that Burgess has in his favour is that he is probably better in the air because he is taller, so perhaps a better option than Keogh to have on the bench and bring on in a game when we are facing a barrage. |
I’d personally prefer Keogh’s nous than Burgess’ aerial ability because too often last year we stopped points in that period where CB had come into the team for GE | |
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| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 08:48 - Aug 19 with 1010 views | TrumptonBlue |
I would take issue with the description of the Arsenal invincibles as "the most coherent defensive unit seen in post-war English football". The team I would think of would be Liverpool in 1978/79 - they conceded 16 in their 42 league games. |  | | |
| How good is our defensive record under KM? on 08:56 - Aug 19 with 951 views | cbower |
Not that this invalidates your point about how good ourdefensive record und McKenna is but in 78/79 Liverpool conceded just 16 goals in a 42 game season in the top flight. They did lose 4 games however but in terms of goals conceded, I think that's a more impressive statistic than Arsenal. |  |
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