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This bottom 7 teams thing 21:06 - Aug 20 with 3402 viewsCoastalblue

that keeps getting repeated today, it's nonsense.

I appreciate that the teams we're beating probably won't be top 6, but to claim we're beating basement dwellers at this stage of the season is, well nonsense.

If Shrewsbury had beaten us today then I believe they would have been 8th? They're not some side marooned at the bottom.

Yes, let's not get carried away, but jesus, the table means nothing at this point so claiming we're only beating the whipping boys is as bad as claiming we're strolling the league.

Sorry, but keep seeing it being said and it makes no sense at all.

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This bottom 7 teams thing on 21:09 - Aug 20 with 3335 viewsBlueBadger

We faced a similar run of expected to be also-rans this time last season and failed to beat them. At this point, we are building momentum and confidence. I very much doubt anyone in the division is looking forward to playing us right now.
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This bottom 7 teams thing on 21:18 - Aug 20 with 3228 viewsRozz

I always say the table doesn't really take shape until 10 games are played. Guess who we've got for game 10...

The real tests are still to come, but it's nice to see improvements already in our resilience, our patterns of play and depth of squad. We'll know far more come 5pm September 17th.
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This bottom 7 teams thing on 21:25 - Aug 20 with 3179 viewsSwansea_Blue

This bottom 7 teams thing on 21:18 - Aug 20 by Rozz

I always say the table doesn't really take shape until 10 games are played. Guess who we've got for game 10...

The real tests are still to come, but it's nice to see improvements already in our resilience, our patterns of play and depth of squad. We'll know far more come 5pm September 17th.


We were top after 10 games 2 years ago and finished well below the playoffs. Not that I want to temp fate!

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This bottom 7 teams thing on 21:37 - Aug 20 with 3095 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Yes but I’m you take a look at the table, there’s not a team you wouldn’t fancy us beating with this squad and this form.
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This bottom 7 teams thing on 21:40 - Aug 20 with 3064 viewsRozz

This bottom 7 teams thing on 21:25 - Aug 20 by Swansea_Blue

We were top after 10 games 2 years ago and finished well below the playoffs. Not that I want to temp fate!


I'm not saying they announce the titles on September 17th, just that there's very little point worrying about who we've beaten where in league a table that's only a few games old.
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This bottom 7 teams thing on 22:25 - Aug 20 with 2822 viewsStokieBlue

Almost by definition, the teams we have beaten will be towards the middle to bottom of the table given we have robbed them of 20% of their total available points.

SB
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This bottom 7 teams thing on 22:27 - Aug 20 with 2785 viewshomer_123

This bottom 7 teams thing on 22:25 - Aug 20 by StokieBlue

Almost by definition, the teams we have beaten will be towards the middle to bottom of the table given we have robbed them of 20% of their total available points.

SB


Stop with the bloody facts will ya!

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This bottom 7 teams thing on 22:36 - Aug 20 with 2724 viewsITFC_Forever

This bottom 7 teams thing on 22:25 - Aug 20 by StokieBlue

Almost by definition, the teams we have beaten will be towards the middle to bottom of the table given we have robbed them of 20% of their total available points.

SB


Exactly the point I was going to make!

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This bottom 7 teams thing on 02:48 - Aug 21 with 2394 viewsBasingstokeBlue

One of the problems we’ve had over the last couple of years (or longer) is our inability to beat teams higher than us in the league table. I’m enjoying the gaffer’s cunning method of circumventing that problem (sit at the top of the table).

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This bottom 7 teams thing on 07:15 - Aug 21 with 2190 viewsbluestandard

This bottom 7 teams thing on 22:25 - Aug 20 by StokieBlue

Almost by definition, the teams we have beaten will be towards the middle to bottom of the table given we have robbed them of 20% of their total available points.

SB


Good point well made 👍
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This bottom 7 teams thing on 09:38 - Aug 21 with 1983 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

This bottom 7 teams thing on 22:36 - Aug 20 by ITFC_Forever

Exactly the point I was going to make!


Me too!

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This bottom 7 teams thing on 09:58 - Aug 21 with 1914 viewsGuthrum

Also given the fact that FGR have played one game fewer than everybody else (bar their opponents for the postponed match, Accrington).

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This bottom 7 teams thing on 15:25 - Aug 21 with 1662 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Statistical comparison with last season by bluestandard 20 Aug 2022 17:36
Superb. +8 after 5 games speaks for itself really. Get in!

I remember us having our good start under Lambert a few seasons ago and we were top, and a mate of mine said ‘you must be chuffed’. I remember saying that it might look good on paper, but really we’d scraped past some mediocre teams and would get found out soon enough. That is NOT the situation we’ve got here. We will wobble at some point, but there is real substance in this team. Well done boys, great win!!!


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This bottom 7 teams thing on 09:47 - Aug 22 with 1387 viewsHighgateBlue

It’s certainly right that the table doesn’t tell us a great deal at this stage. I’m also delighted with our start and think that KMac is the Messiah. Very happy indeed.

But I can’t accept that any of the teams we’ve beaten will be challenging this season. I don’t yet think we’ve beaten a team that will finish in the top third, and I include MK in that.

One of the very reasons why league tables mean little at this stage is precisely because teams have not played everyone. We’ve only played a few sides, and in my view they are not representative of the division as a whole. We started very well under lambert in terms of points at least, and yet we hadn’t played the better teams. Once we did, we came unstuck.

Very happy so far, but we’ll know a lot more once we’ve played the better teams.
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This bottom 7 teams thing on 09:53 - Aug 22 with 1349 viewsclive_baker

When you're 5 games into the season it's completely pointless. A large part of why some are down there is because they've faced us and lost. We brushed MK Dons aside 3-0 who have subsequently picked up 4 points in 2 games. Shrewsbury had only conceded 2 in their 4 games prior to Saturday and had just kept a clean sheet against Derby. Prior to that they beat Wycombe away, who followed up with a 3-0 win over Barnsley. We stuck 3 past Shrews and won at a canter.

Are Shrews and MK Dons top sides this year, probably not. But I doubt either will go down.

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This bottom 7 teams thing on 09:57 - Aug 22 with 1336 viewsThatMuhrenCross

Yeah it's utter nonsense. MK Dons will be a top 10 side, Shrewsbury and Forest Green will both be comfortably mid-table and Burton... well, anything could happen with them. Could be bottom at Christmas and finish 8th knowing them!

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This bottom 7 teams thing on 10:07 - Aug 22 with 1288 viewsgosblue

This bottom 7 teams thing on 09:47 - Aug 22 by HighgateBlue

It’s certainly right that the table doesn’t tell us a great deal at this stage. I’m also delighted with our start and think that KMac is the Messiah. Very happy indeed.

But I can’t accept that any of the teams we’ve beaten will be challenging this season. I don’t yet think we’ve beaten a team that will finish in the top third, and I include MK in that.

One of the very reasons why league tables mean little at this stage is precisely because teams have not played everyone. We’ve only played a few sides, and in my view they are not representative of the division as a whole. We started very well under lambert in terms of points at least, and yet we hadn’t played the better teams. Once we did, we came unstuck.

Very happy so far, but we’ll know a lot more once we’ve played the better teams.


All very good points
I think the differences this year are that we don’t fear anyone, we are playing attractive football, we’ve started scoring goals against brick-wall defences and we’ve got Walton in goal.

Worries include: the transfer window is still open and clubs will be sniffing and turning heads, we are vulnerable to counter-attack, our set pieces aren’t good and we still can’t perform on a Tuesday night.

In September, we can lay some of our ghosts to rest. We play some of the promotion contenders, we are live on Sky and we play Brisssle on a Tuesday night. Exciting times. COYB
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This bottom 7 teams thing on 10:20 - Aug 22 with 1225 viewsChurchman

Claiming we’ve only beaten cannon fodder is as misplaced as saying look at the league table. The reality is that we will have sterner tests and some easier ones too. Of the five we’ve played I think MKD and Bolton will get stronger and time will tell on the other three.

Now is all about collecting as many points as possible and settling the team down before the meat of the season, which I always think begins in October.

What you don’t want to do is get too far off the pace early. After five games last season, with a home hiding to come, we were ten points off the leaders. Even this early that’s hard to make up when their rate of losing games is less than the teams below (obviously) and not all are going to falter.

We’ve avoided that which means we’ve given ourselves a real chance of a good season. Everything about the club is different to two seasons ago, thank goodness and I like to think we will only get stronger.
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This bottom 7 teams thing on 10:22 - Aug 22 with 1213 viewsBlueDouglas

This bottom 7 teams thing on 09:47 - Aug 22 by HighgateBlue

It’s certainly right that the table doesn’t tell us a great deal at this stage. I’m also delighted with our start and think that KMac is the Messiah. Very happy indeed.

But I can’t accept that any of the teams we’ve beaten will be challenging this season. I don’t yet think we’ve beaten a team that will finish in the top third, and I include MK in that.

One of the very reasons why league tables mean little at this stage is precisely because teams have not played everyone. We’ve only played a few sides, and in my view they are not representative of the division as a whole. We started very well under lambert in terms of points at least, and yet we hadn’t played the better teams. Once we did, we came unstuck.

Very happy so far, but we’ll know a lot more once we’ve played the better teams.


Totally agree. For me the real tests this season will be against Wednesday and Peterborough. We struggled against teams of that calibre last season and if we can beat them I'll feel confident we can go up. That being said, there's a clear improvement on how we performed this time last season so feeling positive.
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This bottom 7 teams thing on 10:23 - Aug 22 with 1209 viewsDanTheMan

This bottom 7 teams thing on 09:53 - Aug 22 by clive_baker

When you're 5 games into the season it's completely pointless. A large part of why some are down there is because they've faced us and lost. We brushed MK Dons aside 3-0 who have subsequently picked up 4 points in 2 games. Shrewsbury had only conceded 2 in their 4 games prior to Saturday and had just kept a clean sheet against Derby. Prior to that they beat Wycombe away, who followed up with a 3-0 win over Barnsley. We stuck 3 past Shrews and won at a canter.

Are Shrews and MK Dons top sides this year, probably not. But I doubt either will go down.


Derby are having real problems scoring this year. They had 27 (!) shots on Saturday and couldn't find the net.

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This bottom 7 teams thing on 11:02 - Aug 22 with 1076 viewsBlueForYou

How can it be nonsense? The table so far reflects current form does it not? It just happens that we have beaten some sides that haven't started well. But so far our own house is in good order.
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This bottom 7 teams thing on 11:08 - Aug 22 with 1063 viewsibbleobble

It was the same last season when folk were taking the Portsmouth, Wycombe and Doncaster games out of the mix to say we weren’t scoring much if those games were discounted!? Bananas.

We can only beat who we play, no point second guessing. It’s obvious that Peterborough, Sheff Wed and Pompey will be much tougher. Points on the board and 2pts per game min is all we should care about.
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This bottom 7 teams thing on 11:24 - Aug 22 with 1011 viewsDyland

This bottom 7 teams thing on 09:47 - Aug 22 by HighgateBlue

It’s certainly right that the table doesn’t tell us a great deal at this stage. I’m also delighted with our start and think that KMac is the Messiah. Very happy indeed.

But I can’t accept that any of the teams we’ve beaten will be challenging this season. I don’t yet think we’ve beaten a team that will finish in the top third, and I include MK in that.

One of the very reasons why league tables mean little at this stage is precisely because teams have not played everyone. We’ve only played a few sides, and in my view they are not representative of the division as a whole. We started very well under lambert in terms of points at least, and yet we hadn’t played the better teams. Once we did, we came unstuck.

Very happy so far, but we’ll know a lot more once we’ve played the better teams.


Bolton won't be top third? They looked pretty solid... for half an hour anyway.

The comparison with Lambert's first full season is misleading because we were winning those early games by scoring with only one or two chances. We look a whole lot better at the moment, creating a lot more and bossing games or at least parts of them in a way we never did under Lambert. There are possibly some clever/silly (delete as appropriate) stats to back that up but I'm going on what I see innit :)

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