| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. 11:36 - Oct 6 with 2019 views | MattinLondon |
Ever since I can remember there has always been public aggression between the two main parties. Insult matched by insult etc etc.
Baring wars or even the Con/LD government has there been any examples of parties putting aside their differences and working together regardless of size of majority- or is this a naïve dream regarding British politics? [Post edited 6 Oct 2022 11:37]
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| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 11:43 - Oct 6 with 1728 views | XYZ |
The Rupert Murdoch effect. |  | | |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 11:46 - Oct 6 with 1723 views | belgablue |
There are sometimes issues that they agree to make politically neutral - the Olympics in 2012 being a recentish one I can recall |  |
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| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 12:02 - Oct 6 with 1705 views | J2BLUE |
Some people encourage it. One notable former TWTDer always argued against PR because it would make it harder for MPs to work together.
No, much better we have party politics where MPs are whipped to support the ideology of the latest loon in charge. |  |
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| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 12:11 - Oct 6 with 1660 views | clive_baker |
I think there was about 3 minutes during Covid when Johnson was in intensive care that united the room, but that was quickly forgotten.
A healthy level of challenge is necessary, or we're destined for stagnation and misrule (got that anyway innit), but I do think it goes a little too far at times and probably contributes to the division we see in society more generally and partisan nature of politics today. |  |
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| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 12:49 - Oct 6 with 1575 views | Ryorry |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 12:11 - Oct 6 by clive_baker |
I think there was about 3 minutes during Covid when Johnson was in intensive care that united the room, but that was quickly forgotten.
A healthy level of challenge is necessary, or we're destined for stagnation and misrule (got that anyway innit), but I do think it goes a little too far at times and probably contributes to the division we see in society more generally and partisan nature of politics today. |
I've only not upvoted that because you categorised it as "a little" (too far).
MPs might be more reasonable when not in the HoC at PMQs, but unfortunately what the public see there is the adversarial chamber, the totally tribal exchanges, jeering & cheering, and they take their cue from that.
Hence ludicrous comments even now by dyed-in-the-wool tories parrotting what a great speech Truss delivered, how brilliant her policies are, etc. etc.  |  |
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| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 12:51 - Oct 6 with 1559 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 12:49 - Oct 6 by Ryorry |
I've only not upvoted that because you categorised it as "a little" (too far).
MPs might be more reasonable when not in the HoC at PMQs, but unfortunately what the public see there is the adversarial chamber, the totally tribal exchanges, jeering & cheering, and they take their cue from that.
Hence ludicrous comments even now by dyed-in-the-wool tories parrotting what a great speech Truss delivered, how brilliant her policies are, etc. etc. |
May I, as a joke, say But Corbyn. |  |
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| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 14:11 - Oct 6 with 1479 views | tractordownsouth |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 12:02 - Oct 6 by J2BLUE |
Some people encourage it. One notable former TWTDer always argued against PR because it would make it harder for MPs to work together.
No, much better we have party politics where MPs are whipped to support the ideology of the latest loon in charge. |
I do think the whipping system, for all its faults, is necessary though. Before 2019, the previous 3 elections resulted in a coalition, a 10-seat majority and then a confidence and supply arrangement. I applaud MPs who go against their party on the occassions where the alternative is to defend the indefensible, but there has to be an element of discipline to have a functioning government. |  |
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| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 14:18 - Oct 6 with 1458 views | Swansea_Blue |
Yep. And Holyrood and the Senedd both have coalitions regularly. |  |
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| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 14:27 - Oct 6 with 1457 views | BlueNomad |
If you go back to the 60's & 70's (until Thatcher took over the Tories in 75) there was evident mutual respect between parties. In Parliament there would be exchanges which could be fierce with a bit of humour thrown in - both sides testing each other's ability to respond. The backbenches were less baboonish.
Senior politicians would laugh at themselves and many shared interviews which they appeared to enjoy. Mike Yarwood impersonations would be a badge of pride. |  | | |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 14:30 - Oct 6 with 1450 views | Churchman |
There’s a lot of cooperation and joint working behind the scenes on things like committees. |  | | |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 14:41 - Oct 6 with 1441 views | solemio |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 12:51 - Oct 6 by Pinewoodblue |
May I, as a joke, say But Corbyn. |
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| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 14:42 - Oct 6 with 1437 views | XYZ |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 12:11 - Oct 6 by clive_baker |
I think there was about 3 minutes during Covid when Johnson was in intensive care that united the room, but that was quickly forgotten.
A healthy level of challenge is necessary, or we're destined for stagnation and misrule (got that anyway innit), but I do think it goes a little too far at times and probably contributes to the division we see in society more generally and partisan nature of politics today. |
Johnson being in intensive care was made up nonsense. | | | |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 14:44 - Oct 6 with 1434 views | XYZ |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 14:27 - Oct 6 by BlueNomad |
If you go back to the 60's & 70's (until Thatcher took over the Tories in 75) there was evident mutual respect between parties. In Parliament there would be exchanges which could be fierce with a bit of humour thrown in - both sides testing each other's ability to respond. The backbenches were less baboonish.
Senior politicians would laugh at themselves and many shared interviews which they appeared to enjoy. Mike Yarwood impersonations would be a badge of pride. |
Before Murdoch arrived in the UK. | | | |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 17:02 - Oct 6 with 1344 views | jontysnut |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 14:41 - Oct 6 by solemio |
No |
I think it got worse under Thatcher who talked about people being one of us and the enemy within, and Murdoch contributed to that environment. I remember being a student late 70s early 80s and the Federation of Conservative Students were a particularly vile bunch. Of course Aneurin Bevan famously disliked Tories " I didn't say Tories were vermin, I said they were lower than vermin" or words to that effect. |  | | |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 17:21 - Oct 6 with 1333 views | clive_baker |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 14:42 - Oct 6 by XYZ |
Johnson being in intensive care was made up nonsense. |
What about it was made up? | |
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| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 17:58 - Oct 6 with 1300 views | XYZ |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 17:21 - Oct 6 by clive_baker |
What about it was made up? |
The severity was massively exaggerated | | | |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 19:10 - Oct 6 with 1271 views | Rob88 |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 14:42 - Oct 6 by XYZ |
Johnson being in intensive care was made up nonsense. |
Sounds like def info. | | | |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 19:16 - Oct 6 with 1265 views | XYZ |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 19:10 - Oct 6 by Rob88 |
Sounds like def info. |
Private Eye if I recall - feel free not to believe it. | | | |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 19:17 - Oct 6 with 1265 views | XYZ |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 19:10 - Oct 6 by Rob88 |
Sounds like def info. |
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| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 19:24 - Oct 6 with 1255 views | Rob88 |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 19:16 - Oct 6 by XYZ |
Private Eye if I recall - feel free not to believe it. |
Must be then. | | | |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 19:27 - Oct 6 with 1249 views | HARRY10 |
Yes would it not be better were political parties to sit round a campfire and sing Kumbaya my lord - something I am sure Boxing matches could adopt, as well as court cases
Whereas in the real world, all three are adversarial, so it goes with the territory. Though I am not sure if it is that, or how it manifests itself. that causes you upset.
CND had much the same problem. War was OK, as long as it was not fought with big naughty things that went bang very loudly (boo hiss)
Of course, it will not stop the simple minded from thinking that such guff as PR would be better - as there power is removed from MPs and decisions are made 'behind closed doors'. So any disagreement would be out of sight.
Yes. Some of the behaviour in the Commons is to be deplored - most noticeable being the servile incompetence of the Speaker who seems to act as if he were some ever so 'umble footman given the job as butler at some 1920s country house.
However little change can be made where you have a media which supports the political wing of one small section of the populace. Where attempts at usurping democratic power are backed, and even the judiciary is attacked for defending that democracy.
Shouting 'yah boo' in the Commons is the least of our concerns. | | | |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 21:11 - Oct 6 with 1180 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 19:24 - Oct 6 by Rob88 |
Must be then. |
It was (98%) obviously rubbish. One minute we were told he was at death’s door, the next he was actually sitting up and reading his paperwork instead. Hospital accounts didn’t match his claims either.
Having had a relatively mild hit of covid back in that first year, there’s no way someone who narrowly “avoided death” would be up and about and engaging in public duties a few days later. It took me 4 weeks to be able to walk to the end of the road (30 yards away), and I wasn’t hospitalised, let alone at death’s door.
Whatever the truth, he won’t be believed anyway as he’s a compulsive liar. | |
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| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 22:39 - Oct 6 with 1129 views | Oldsmoker |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 14:42 - Oct 6 by XYZ |
Johnson being in intensive care was made up nonsense. |
Or was it?
My understanding was that ICU was a more secure ward and they could protect him from the doctors, nurses and patients who wanted to kick the sh*t out of him for not giving them a pay rise and not giving the NHS an extra 130million per week as promised on that bus. |  |
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| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 22:53 - Oct 6 with 1116 views | Oldsmoker |
| Political parties being civil and cooperative with one another. on 21:11 - Oct 6 by Swansea_Blue |
It was (98%) obviously rubbish. One minute we were told he was at death’s door, the next he was actually sitting up and reading his paperwork instead. Hospital accounts didn’t match his claims either.
Having had a relatively mild hit of covid back in that first year, there’s no way someone who narrowly “avoided death” would be up and about and engaging in public duties a few days later. It took me 4 weeks to be able to walk to the end of the road (30 yards away), and I wasn’t hospitalised, let alone at death’s door.
Whatever the truth, he won’t be believed anyway as he’s a compulsive liar. |
It's from the right-wing playbook. Claim victim status.
We were supposed to feel sorry for him and have sympathy.
When he realised a section of the public were disappointed to hear he had survived he knew the subterfuge hadn't worked.
Trump used to do the same. He constantly claimed he was the victim of a witch hunt by the US government. The fact that he effectively WAS the US government didn't seem to register in his tiny brain. | |
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