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"Wolfson said most people in the UK had a “very pragmatic view” of immigration and urged the government to take a “different approach to economically productive migration”."
That's 99% of migration, then.
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"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 10:40 - Nov 10 with 3504 views
"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 10:40 - Nov 10 by Darth_Koont
“Not the delusional fantasy I’d selfishly convinced myself about”
Corrected it for him.
And says we are all allowed to debate it now, after spending 6 years calling everyone who didn't vote to leave "remoaners" and saying "you lost, get over it"
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"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 10:52 - Nov 10 with 3454 views
Give or take there are the same number of EU born people in the Uk now as pre Brexit. This is just an uber capitalist wanting more cheap labour as Brits won’t do it. The EU is a corporate protectorate and old mate wants us to be the same.
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 10:56 - Nov 10 by chicoazul
Give or take there are the same number of EU born people in the Uk now as pre Brexit. This is just an uber capitalist wanting more cheap labour as Brits won’t do it. The EU is a corporate protectorate and old mate wants us to be the same.
"This is just an uber capitalist wanting more cheap labour as Brits won’t do it."
This has always been the uncomfortable truth hasn't it? Our economy has been propped up by cheap foreign labour, which is pretty grim on a lot of levels, but removing the ready supply of that was never going to go smoothly as these are jobs and wages that your average brit doesn't fancy.
I was born underwater, I dried out in the sun.
I started humping volcanoes baby, when I was too young.
"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 10:56 - Nov 10 by chicoazul
Give or take there are the same number of EU born people in the Uk now as pre Brexit. This is just an uber capitalist wanting more cheap labour as Brits won’t do it. The EU is a corporate protectorate and old mate wants us to be the same.
Support for a global pool of cheap labour comes from some very 'progressive' sources nowadays. Perhaps people need to stop trying to make sense of a f#cked up economic business/financial model.
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 11:02 - Nov 10 by Dubtractor
"This is just an uber capitalist wanting more cheap labour as Brits won’t do it."
This has always been the uncomfortable truth hasn't it? Our economy has been propped up by cheap foreign labour, which is pretty grim on a lot of levels, but removing the ready supply of that was never going to go smoothly as these are jobs and wages that your average brit doesn't fancy.
Indeed. This is largely why the Maximum Leader Mick Lynch Larry Elliott and Tony Benn were anti EU as they felt/feel it does very little for the working class and social mobility.
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 11:09 - Nov 10 by chicoazul
Indeed. This is largely why the Maximum Leader Mick Lynch Larry Elliott and Tony Benn were anti EU as they felt/feel it does very little for the working class and social mobility.
Maybe, but that wouldn't have stopped us, as a country, to do more for the working classes and social mobility, those are choices we made at our own General Elections...
You are the obsolete SRN4 to my Fairey Rotodyne....
"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 11:02 - Nov 10 by Dubtractor
"This is just an uber capitalist wanting more cheap labour as Brits won’t do it."
This has always been the uncomfortable truth hasn't it? Our economy has been propped up by cheap foreign labour, which is pretty grim on a lot of levels, but removing the ready supply of that was never going to go smoothly as these are jobs and wages that your average brit doesn't fancy.
It's not just cleaners and barristers and builders though. For example, many European academics have left the UK as a direct result of Brexit.
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"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 11:26 - Nov 10 with 3288 views
"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 11:13 - Nov 10 by Ewan_Oozami
Maybe, but that wouldn't have stopped us, as a country, to do more for the working classes and social mobility, those are choices we made at our own General Elections...
No argument here.
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 11:27 - Nov 10 by Dubtractor
That's a fair point - I'm somewhat guilty of a generalisation there, though that impact is acutely felt.
Whichever way you look at it, Brexit has kneecapped our economy.
I don’t think it’s fair to make that conclusion yet. The pandemic and the war have queered the pitch, and no country is immune to inflationary pressures.
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 11:30 - Nov 10 by chicoazul
I don’t think it’s fair to make that conclusion yet. The pandemic and the war have queered the pitch, and no country is immune to inflationary pressures.
Tbf, I'm a fully signed up remoaner, so I'm going to draw that conclusion now!
That said, no argument that those things have had a huge impact, in my line of work there have been some huge financial fluctuations from them and I don't doubt the same has been felt elsewhere.
I was born underwater, I dried out in the sun.
I started humping volcanoes baby, when I was too young.
"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 11:30 - Nov 10 by chicoazul
I don’t think it’s fair to make that conclusion yet. The pandemic and the war have queered the pitch, and no country is immune to inflationary pressures.
"Give or take there are the same number of EU born people in the Uk now as pre Brexit."
That is the only claim, as all evidence points to the opposite. The estimate being that one million plus EU workers have left the UK.
As expected, a feeble attempt to distract from the truth with guff about inflation. The reality is brexit has hit the UK hard, and continues to do so..
You only need to compare two parts of the UK....GB and NI. One is booming with high growth, the other stagnating with the lowest growth in Europe
This idiotic rightie parrot sketch does not stand up to evidence either, as
Businesses are leaving. More I suspect would be the case. were it a simple matter of hitching up a caravan and moving.
The 40 new deals on day one have not materialised. In fact the only new deal ratified so far has been that with Japan....which left the UK worse off. Whereas exporters are being crippled by brexit red tape, regulation and costs.
The sad thing is even six years after the lies, righties are still in denial. I expect righties on the Titanic would have denied it was sinking by claiming it was actually the sea which was rising.
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"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 13:40 - Nov 10 with 3053 views
"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 11:02 - Nov 10 by Dubtractor
"This is just an uber capitalist wanting more cheap labour as Brits won’t do it."
This has always been the uncomfortable truth hasn't it? Our economy has been propped up by cheap foreign labour, which is pretty grim on a lot of levels, but removing the ready supply of that was never going to go smoothly as these are jobs and wages that your average brit doesn't fancy.
I have clients who run nurseries (growing kind) and they say Brits won't work as hard and will demand more money to do these kind of jobs.
I know some people don't believe it, but I believe it is true.
The article is right in that some nurseries have just stopped growing due to lower staff to pick the food etc as well as the massive rise in energy costs.
Fruit and Veg in shops can only be going up as we will need to import more sooner or later.
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"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 14:21 - Nov 10 with 2990 views
"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 10:40 - Nov 10 by Dubtractor
Absolute brass neck to claim that in terms of immigration its not the brexit most people voted for.
Claims of reducing immigration is exactly why a huge number voted for it.
I voted for Brexit, howeve, not to stop immigration just to control the numbers comes & who we allow in. To have unlimited immigration is very well, how do you plan for the infrastructure required, schools, hospitals ect. I'm all for people wanting work here, though we need choose people with the skills we require.
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"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 14:24 - Nov 10 with 2968 views
"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 13:40 - Nov 10 by Vaughan8
I have clients who run nurseries (growing kind) and they say Brits won't work as hard and will demand more money to do these kind of jobs.
I know some people don't believe it, but I believe it is true.
The article is right in that some nurseries have just stopped growing due to lower staff to pick the food etc as well as the massive rise in energy costs.
Fruit and Veg in shops can only be going up as we will need to import more sooner or later.
That last sentence is not true. As with gas fruit and veg is sold on a global basis, so just because it is grown in the UK does not mean cheaper. Where the loss is incurred is to the revenue via tax paid on UK based businesses.
" Brexit will cut costs... baa baa".
Was one of the bleats previously trotted out. Yet this cretin is now talking about [/]"businesses who need foreign workers should be able to pay a tax of 10% to the government on foreign workers' salaries ". So a levy on UK businesses competing against EU businesses.
As to who works harder it is not necessarily a nationality thing. East Europeans have a greater motivation on the basis that seasonal work equates to a massive difference in real income when taken back. Many of these workers are students etc, and others who see a short 3 month stint as well worth it. Whereas most of the UK workers recruited are by nature often unemployed and so will see no financial improvement on their lot.
It was the same with UK bricklayers in Germany in the 80's. . Much as with women who were employed in seasonal crop harvesting in East Anglia, prior to today's methods. They were not working outside of these jobs so saw the extra wage as a well paid bonus.
The concern is that businesses lost will not return. Why would an East European go through the absurd rigmarole that is the visa system when they can catch a bus and cross the border into France, Germany etc. Why would businesses stay, never mind set up, in the UK when they can enjoy the freedom and ease of trade the EU affords.
A simple concept that seemed/seems to have eluded the grasp of brexiters.
But then, if 'their betters #' did not tell them the truth are they really to blame for this mess ?
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"Not the Brexit I wanted" - Lord Wolfson on 14:41 - Nov 10 with 2938 views