| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry 18:38 - Nov 29 with 3937 views | Mercian |
I have no problem with that whatsoever but a Welsh FA official stated that it was because the team had a stronger Welsh identity than ever before with over half the squad born and raised in England. Ethan Ampadu was born in Exeter to an English mother and an Irish father of Nigerian descent and yet he plays for Wales. |  | | |  |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 18:41 - Nov 29 with 3023 views | GeoffSentence |
I've been trying to work out what Brennan Johnson's Welsh qualification is.
I know his dad could have played for any British team for some reason, but he played for Jamaica in the end, does that can play for anyone qualification carry on down the generations. |  |
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 18:49 - Nov 29 with 2986 views | Skip_Intro |
Cymru not Cwmry...to be fair it's welsh for Wales just like England is english for England...
edit: if you want to be a pedant it's literally welsh for 'the people' or 'fellow countrymen' but it's the welsh name for their country [Post edited 29 Nov 2022 18:51]
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 18:51 - Nov 29 with 2972 views | PhilTWTD |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 18:41 - Nov 29 by GeoffSentence |
I've been trying to work out what Brennan Johnson's Welsh qualification is.
I know his dad could have played for any British team for some reason, but he played for Jamaica in the end, does that can play for anyone qualification carry on down the generations. |
Brennan qualifies via his mother's family. It was thought his dad could qualify for all four home nations as he had a British passport but was born outside the UK. However, as his mother was born in the UK that wasn't the case, which was why he ultimately didn't play for any UK side other than England B, despite interest from Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 18:58 - Nov 29 with 2903 views | HighgateBlue |
I guess a country can call itself what it likes. But having said that, Wales has two official languages, one of which is English, and one of which is Welsh, and only about 30% of the population can speak the latter.
Presumably someone thinks it's a better representation of the country to refer to it in a language that only a minority speaks, when the entire population speaks English. I have my doubts as to whether that is the case... |  | | |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 18:58 - Nov 29 with 2905 views | BrianTablet |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 18:51 - Nov 29 by PhilTWTD |
Brennan qualifies via his mother's family. It was thought his dad could qualify for all four home nations as he had a British passport but was born outside the UK. However, as his mother was born in the UK that wasn't the case, which was why he ultimately didn't play for any UK side other than England B, despite interest from Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
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Interestingly, that's the exact same reason that Graham Harbey didn't play for England. |  |
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:03 - Nov 29 with 2894 views | Swansea_Blue |
And yet Erling Haaland was born in Leeds and Raheem Sterling in Jamaica to Jamaican parents. The rules are probably a bit lax. I think I’d scrap the education rule and have it purely on place of birth, nationality or parent’s nationality. But then having looser rules probably helps smaller nations be more competitive.
Ampadu’s mother is Welsh btw and he went all through the age groups with them. It’s the ones that switch countries after the age group football that piss me off. |  |
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:08 - Nov 29 with 2867 views | Mercian |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 18:49 - Nov 29 by Skip_Intro |
Cymru not Cwmry...to be fair it's welsh for Wales just like England is english for England...
edit: if you want to be a pedant it's literally welsh for 'the people' or 'fellow countrymen' but it's the welsh name for their country [Post edited 29 Nov 2022 18:51]
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Sorry for getting it wrong. I am all for them changing their name but it was the Welsh tradition among the players I thought was a bit off. I don't know who it was but last week one of their English born and raised players said he chose Wales because of his grandmother and really hope they stuff England. No mate, you did not chose to play for England, England decided not to chose you. Again I have no problem with that. My grandfather was from Glasgow and if I had been a player and it became obvious I was not going to be picked by England and Scotland came calling I would have jumped at the chance but would not go flaunting my Scottish identity. I never set foot in Scotland until I was 21. Other English born players like Jamal Lewis and Che Adams have that attitude. [Post edited 29 Nov 2022 19:09]
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:10 - Nov 29 with 2853 views | Mercian |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:03 - Nov 29 by Swansea_Blue |
And yet Erling Haaland was born in Leeds and Raheem Sterling in Jamaica to Jamaican parents. The rules are probably a bit lax. I think I’d scrap the education rule and have it purely on place of birth, nationality or parent’s nationality. But then having looser rules probably helps smaller nations be more competitive.
Ampadu’s mother is Welsh btw and he went all through the age groups with them. It’s the ones that switch countries after the age group football that piss me off. |
If I had a Tardis I would got back a few years and beg Erling to call for England :) Some have said what about Kane. No problem, play a 4-4-2. [Post edited 29 Nov 2022 19:11]
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:16 - Nov 29 with 2835 views | Keno |
I could have played for Wales,
one of 5 nations I could have represented [Post edited 29 Nov 2022 19:17]
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:26 - Nov 29 with 2798 views | Mercian |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 18:51 - Nov 29 by PhilTWTD |
Brennan qualifies via his mother's family. It was thought his dad could qualify for all four home nations as he had a British passport but was born outside the UK. However, as his mother was born in the UK that wasn't the case, which was why he ultimately didn't play for any UK side other than England B, despite interest from Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
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Brennan has the potential to be better than his dad. I loved DJ though. | | | |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:27 - Nov 29 with 2785 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:10 - Nov 29 by Mercian |
If I had a Tardis I would got back a few years and beg Erling to call for England :) Some have said what about Kane. No problem, play a 4-4-2. [Post edited 29 Nov 2022 19:11]
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Yeah, imagine being able to call on him. Shame his dad’s career was petering out when he was a tiny kid, otherwise their family may have stayed here longer. | |
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:46 - Nov 29 with 2740 views | Mercian |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:27 - Nov 29 by Swansea_Blue |
Yeah, imagine being able to call on him. Shame his dad’s career was petering out when he was a tiny kid, otherwise their family may have stayed here longer. |
Musiala is another huge talent we missed out on .Giovanni Reyna is not so good but still a very good young talent. I remember a few years back thinking we should tie down Iwobi. I have never been a great judge of footballing talent though. [Post edited 29 Nov 2022 19:47]
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:53 - Nov 29 with 2714 views | GeoffSentence |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:16 - Nov 29 by Keno |
I could have played for Wales,
one of 5 nations I could have represented [Post edited 29 Nov 2022 19:17]
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My wife could play for Wales via her paternal grandmother.
Alsp, she's good enough. | |
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 20:06 - Nov 29 with 2623 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:03 - Nov 29 by Swansea_Blue |
And yet Erling Haaland was born in Leeds and Raheem Sterling in Jamaica to Jamaican parents. The rules are probably a bit lax. I think I’d scrap the education rule and have it purely on place of birth, nationality or parent’s nationality. But then having looser rules probably helps smaller nations be more competitive.
Ampadu’s mother is Welsh btw and he went all through the age groups with them. It’s the ones that switch countries after the age group football that piss me off. |
You mean the likes of Jack Grealish and Declan Rice? |  | | |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 20:12 - Nov 29 with 2594 views | Keno |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 20:06 - Nov 29 by Eireannach_gorm |
You mean the likes of Jack Grealish and Declan Rice? |
We would never do that!!
Different sport but I'm sure Bundee Aki was both and bred in Athlone | |
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 20:22 - Nov 29 with 2575 views | Mercian |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 20:12 - Nov 29 by Keno |
We would never do that!!
Different sport but I'm sure Bundee Aki was both and bred in Athlone |
Rice is great defensive midfielder in the making as these players ten to mature late. Grealish can go back to Ireland as far as I'm. Hugely over-rated player. | | | |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 20:29 - Nov 29 with 2550 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 20:12 - Nov 29 by Keno |
We would never do that!!
Different sport but I'm sure Bundee Aki was both and bred in Athlone |
Nice bit of whataboutery but lets do the rugby then.
This is the list of forwards only who were not born in England in the current squad,
David Ribbans
Bevan Rodd
Val Rapava-Ruskin
Billy Vunipola
Mako Vunipola
Not like you guys need to use non English players in either sport. | | | |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 22:23 - Nov 29 with 2454 views | farkenhell |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:27 - Nov 29 by Swansea_Blue |
Yeah, imagine being able to call on him. Shame his dad’s career was petering out when he was a tiny kid, otherwise their family may have stayed here longer. |
Something else to blame Roy Keane for! |  | | |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 22:38 - Nov 29 with 2409 views | Keno |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 20:29 - Nov 29 by Eireannach_gorm |
Nice bit of whataboutery but lets do the rugby then.
This is the list of forwards only who were not born in England in the current squad,
David Ribbans
Bevan Rodd
Val Rapava-Ruskin
Billy Vunipola
Mako Vunipola
Not like you guys need to use non English players in either sport. |
Ha! You misunderstood me, I’m one of you lot
Lest we forget O’Gara was born in the States | |
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 22:50 - Nov 29 with 2365 views | ronnyd |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:03 - Nov 29 by Swansea_Blue |
And yet Erling Haaland was born in Leeds and Raheem Sterling in Jamaica to Jamaican parents. The rules are probably a bit lax. I think I’d scrap the education rule and have it purely on place of birth, nationality or parent’s nationality. But then having looser rules probably helps smaller nations be more competitive.
Ampadu’s mother is Welsh btw and he went all through the age groups with them. It’s the ones that switch countries after the age group football that piss me off. |
Like Germany's Musiala, played in most of England's younger levels. | | | |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 23:00 - Nov 29 with 2351 views | Churchman |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 20:29 - Nov 29 by Eireannach_gorm |
Nice bit of whataboutery but lets do the rugby then.
This is the list of forwards only who were not born in England in the current squad,
David Ribbans
Bevan Rodd
Val Rapava-Ruskin
Billy Vunipola
Mako Vunipola
Not like you guys need to use non English players in either sport. |
Oh we do - as many as we can get if they are any good. Back to the title, any country is entitled to call itself whatever it wishes. If Wales becomes Cymru fine, Scotland Alba - their choice. |  | | |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 23:04 - Nov 29 with 2337 views | Mercian |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 18:58 - Nov 29 by HighgateBlue |
I guess a country can call itself what it likes. But having said that, Wales has two official languages, one of which is English, and one of which is Welsh, and only about 30% of the population can speak the latter.
Presumably someone thinks it's a better representation of the country to refer to it in a language that only a minority speaks, when the entire population speaks English. I have my doubts as to whether that is the case... |
A lot of that 30% are elderly or young people as teaching the language in Welsh schools has been mandatory for some time now. I think only about 5% speak it as a first language. Aaron Ramsey's first language is Welsh and Wes Burns speaks it fluently. Does anyone know if it is his first language? [Post edited 29 Nov 2022 23:07]
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 23:07 - Nov 29 with 2330 views | clive_baker |
Might as well change their name to Burnley after this World Cup. |  |
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 23:09 - Nov 29 with 2323 views | clive_baker |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 19:16 - Nov 29 by Keno |
I could have played for Wales,
one of 5 nations I could have represented [Post edited 29 Nov 2022 19:17]
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I can play for England and England only, but my son can play for Ireland.
Obviously that’s a back up if he’s not good enough for England… | |
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| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 23:28 - Nov 29 with 2289 views | FifeITFC |
| Wales National Team to changeit's name to Cymry on 18:51 - Nov 29 by PhilTWTD |
Brennan qualifies via his mother's family. It was thought his dad could qualify for all four home nations as he had a British passport but was born outside the UK. However, as his mother was born in the UK that wasn't the case, which was why he ultimately didn't play for any UK side other than England B, despite interest from Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but after "committing" himself to Scotland, wasn't DJ found to be ineligible? I'm sure I remember seeing an interview with the then Scotland manager Craig Brown about it. |  |
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