| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. 00:18 - Dec 30 with 2743 views | ITFCson |
I'm curious. All these experts saying we need a striker. We have 46 goals and only Burnley have more in the entire EFL.
Curious to know how many goals these people think we'd have scored by now with this so called striker we need? 50? 60?
With or without a new striker we will finish top 2 no problem at all. We dominate almost every game and after 46 games that will be more than enough to have us in the top 2
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 00:24 - Dec 30 with 2671 views | textbackup |
oh look, another cool dude.
a different option could nick us a goal from nothing at wycombe, or tonight. saying we dont need another striker, when we are looking at other strikers, is just silly |  |
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 00:29 - Dec 30 with 2653 views | mattyhollandsirish |
Do you not think we need a better option than Jackson coming on tonight then? Or maybe Ladapo gets injured?
It's beyond ridiculous to suggest that we don't need another striker. Everyone's entitled to an opinion and all that, that doesn't mean the opinion isnt daft though. | | | |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 01:44 - Dec 30 with 2540 views | RKD |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 00:24 - Dec 30 by textbackup |
oh look, another cool dude.
a different option could nick us a goal from nothing at wycombe, or tonight. saying we dont need another striker, when we are looking at other strikers, is just silly |
The most recent season that we were genuine promotion contenders was 14/15 under McCarthy. We failed to significantly invest in January (Sears was a half decent-good addition, but rivals were spending up to 6m on players). We didn’t go up.
The most recent season that we achieved promotion was 99/00 under Burley. We splashed out and bought a promotion rival’s striker, being ruthless and utilising the extra pulling factor that we had. We went up.
I think the only signing we really need to make in January is a sh1thot striker. The problem is we need to be able to attract a player that we also deem as a Championship starter in the event that we go up. I’m not sure Clarke-Harris is up to it. I would be open to the idea of splashing around 1m on a top tier loan from lower Prem/upper Championship if there is an out of favour striker that needs to put themselves in the shop window. |  |
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 01:48 - Dec 30 with 2531 views | textbackup |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 01:44 - Dec 30 by RKD |
The most recent season that we were genuine promotion contenders was 14/15 under McCarthy. We failed to significantly invest in January (Sears was a half decent-good addition, but rivals were spending up to 6m on players). We didn’t go up.
The most recent season that we achieved promotion was 99/00 under Burley. We splashed out and bought a promotion rival’s striker, being ruthless and utilising the extra pulling factor that we had. We went up.
I think the only signing we really need to make in January is a sh1thot striker. The problem is we need to be able to attract a player that we also deem as a Championship starter in the event that we go up. I’m not sure Clarke-Harris is up to it. I would be open to the idea of splashing around 1m on a top tier loan from lower Prem/upper Championship if there is an out of favour striker that needs to put themselves in the shop window. |
took a look at mateys stats from bristol rovers, i'd say someone like him could be one to get us over the line.
top assists and 2nd in goals scored | |
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 02:03 - Dec 30 with 2514 views | Ryorry |
Well I'm no expert, but to me that has to be one of the silliest things ever said on a football forum, given that the current 3rd placers are level on points with us & it's only late December.
Not to mention the 4th placers being on a helluva run with 2 games in hand & only needing 9 points to catch up. [Post edited 30 Dec 2022 2:40]
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 02:46 - Dec 30 with 2442 views | ITFCson |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 00:29 - Dec 30 by mattyhollandsirish |
Do you not think we need a better option than Jackson coming on tonight then? Or maybe Ladapo gets injured?
It's beyond ridiculous to suggest that we don't need another striker. Everyone's entitled to an opinion and all that, that doesn't mean the opinion isnt daft though. |
Where did I say we don’t need striker? Of course we could with one all I’m saying is we will go up without another one without doubt. Then when Championship is guaranteed we’d get the calibre of striker needed more easily I’d imagine. | | | |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 08:28 - Dec 30 with 2057 views | cressi |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 02:03 - Dec 30 by Ryorry |
Well I'm no expert, but to me that has to be one of the silliest things ever said on a football forum, given that the current 3rd placers are level on points with us & it's only late December.
Not to mention the 4th placers being on a helluva run with 2 games in hand & only needing 9 points to catch up. [Post edited 30 Dec 2022 2:40]
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If Ladapo, was to get injured our back ups are just not good enough hence why we need a quality striker Adhadme and Jackson might not keep a team up let alone promoted | | | |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 08:43 - Dec 30 with 2026 views | Pilgrimblue |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 01:48 - Dec 30 by textbackup |
took a look at mateys stats from bristol rovers, i'd say someone like him could be one to get us over the line.
top assists and 2nd in goals scored |
That is the sort we need. Neither of Jackson nor adame are good enough so I’d go for at least one loan to replace JJ |  | | |
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 09:04 - Dec 30 with 1937 views | Broadhill |
We definitely need a striker. And to stop playing this tippy tappy football sometimes. Just go direct. We try to walk it in too often. It will cost us in the end. You need some thugs in your team in this division. |  | | |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 09:04 - Dec 30 with 1935 views | Wakh |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 02:46 - Dec 30 by ITFCson |
Where did I say we don’t need striker? Of course we could with one all I’m saying is we will go up without another one without doubt. Then when Championship is guaranteed we’d get the calibre of striker needed more easily I’d imagine. |
FFP will limit what we can spend in the championships and championship quality strikers are not cheap. If we can get one in now, we are improving the present and building for the future. It's a no brainer if we can lure the right one. | | | |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 09:27 - Dec 30 with 1854 views | homer_123 |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 09:04 - Dec 30 by Broadhill |
We definitely need a striker. And to stop playing this tippy tappy football sometimes. Just go direct. We try to walk it in too often. It will cost us in the end. You need some thugs in your team in this division. |
It really isn't tippy tippy football though...is it?
We actually play with a purpose...its not passing for passing sake. We move the ball in all directions, trying to pull the opposition out of position or to work an overload.
We don't mind going long to Davis or Burns out wide to change it up.
We create plenty of chances and we score goals.
We are sitting joint second. |  |
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 09:29 - Dec 30 with 1847 views | homer_123 |
With Cats nephew injured...we def need another striker. | |
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 11:08 - Dec 30 with 1709 views | ITFCson |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 02:03 - Dec 30 by Ryorry |
Well I'm no expert, but to me that has to be one of the silliest things ever said on a football forum, given that the current 3rd placers are level on points with us & it's only late December.
Not to mention the 4th placers being on a helluva run with 2 games in hand & only needing 9 points to catch up. [Post edited 30 Dec 2022 2:40]
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Such a high points per game at this stage for 3 separate teams is a rare scenario. The chances of 3 teams still having the same ppg after 46 games is very very remote if even by law of averages. The odds of all 3 teams finishing above 95 points is less than 1 in 100. | | | |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 12:06 - Dec 30 with 1541 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 01:44 - Dec 30 by RKD |
The most recent season that we were genuine promotion contenders was 14/15 under McCarthy. We failed to significantly invest in January (Sears was a half decent-good addition, but rivals were spending up to 6m on players). We didn’t go up.
The most recent season that we achieved promotion was 99/00 under Burley. We splashed out and bought a promotion rival’s striker, being ruthless and utilising the extra pulling factor that we had. We went up.
I think the only signing we really need to make in January is a sh1thot striker. The problem is we need to be able to attract a player that we also deem as a Championship starter in the event that we go up. I’m not sure Clarke-Harris is up to it. I would be open to the idea of splashing around 1m on a top tier loan from lower Prem/upper Championship if there is an out of favour striker that needs to put themselves in the shop window. |
TBH I'm that desperate to get out of league 1, i don't care if we bough CH just to score goals in this league and have him as a backup in the champ..
Keep seeing people saying we will have 1 mind on the champ and who could play there - buger that.. who could help us get out of this league in the next 5 months.. concentrate on that first. |  |
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 12:14 - Dec 30 with 1523 views | Ryorry |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 11:08 - Dec 30 by ITFCson |
Such a high points per game at this stage for 3 separate teams is a rare scenario. The chances of 3 teams still having the same ppg after 46 games is very very remote if even by law of averages. The odds of all 3 teams finishing above 95 points is less than 1 in 100. |
In other words, we could end up 3rd or 4th & not promoted.
I'd love you to be right and myself wrong, but I'm a realist & you're in wishful thinking territory. | |
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 12:27 - Dec 30 with 1449 views | Vic |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 00:29 - Dec 30 by mattyhollandsirish |
Do you not think we need a better option than Jackson coming on tonight then? Or maybe Ladapo gets injured?
It's beyond ridiculous to suggest that we don't need another striker. Everyone's entitled to an opinion and all that, that doesn't mean the opinion isnt daft though. |
I think your point is something different. Point one is that we need to score more goals. In my opinion;, we just dont - we score loads! We’re the divisions top scorers - that should be enough. Our problem is that we let in too many goals. Point 2 (your point) is that we need cover for Lapado, etc. yes we do. |  |
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 12:33 - Dec 30 with 1428 views | pointofblue |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 12:27 - Dec 30 by Vic |
I think your point is something different. Point one is that we need to score more goals. In my opinion;, we just dont - we score loads! We’re the divisions top scorers - that should be enough. Our problem is that we let in too many goals. Point 2 (your point) is that we need cover for Lapado, etc. yes we do. |
We're conceding an average of a goal at game - and a quarter of those came back to back at Charlton and Port Vale. | |
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 12:37 - Dec 30 with 1413 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 12:27 - Dec 30 by Vic |
I think your point is something different. Point one is that we need to score more goals. In my opinion;, we just dont - we score loads! We’re the divisions top scorers - that should be enough. Our problem is that we let in too many goals. Point 2 (your point) is that we need cover for Lapado, etc. yes we do. |
We don't let in to many goals. We've conceded less than plymouth.
We however have conceded goals at the wrong time. Or in games where we've not closed a game off by scoring more.. Fleetwood. Lincoln. For example. Where were our goals then...
And regarding goals.. it's not even about those numbers either for me... it's more about how and when we score them.
We are top scorers. Yes. But I'd rather see us score goals that help us to see games out.. last night if we score the 2nd before they do.. it changes the game opens them up etc. That's what we need. | |
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 12:52 - Dec 30 with 1364 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 12:37 - Dec 30 by FrimleyBlue |
We don't let in to many goals. We've conceded less than plymouth.
We however have conceded goals at the wrong time. Or in games where we've not closed a game off by scoring more.. Fleetwood. Lincoln. For example. Where were our goals then...
And regarding goals.. it's not even about those numbers either for me... it's more about how and when we score them.
We are top scorers. Yes. But I'd rather see us score goals that help us to see games out.. last night if we score the 2nd before they do.. it changes the game opens them up etc. That's what we need. |
I'd say we've conceded borderline too many. If you historically look at teams that get automatic promotion, it averages out at around 40 goals conceded over a season but many of them are sub-40. We are on course for 46. We've conceded 2+ goals 7 times this season and been bailed out by being good goal scorers.
I don't think it's a big issue but it's a bigger issue for us than scoring goals is. [Post edited 30 Dec 2022 12:52]
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 12:56 - Dec 30 with 1349 views | Vegtablue |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 12:14 - Dec 30 by Ryorry |
In other words, we could end up 3rd or 4th & not promoted.
I'd love you to be right and myself wrong, but I'm a realist & you're in wishful thinking territory. |
Don't think you're being pessimistic Ryorry! Don't see the hysteria that's triggered ITFCson's "calm down" post either truth be told!
Maybe some are writing us off without reinforcements but I think most are recognizing an area that is very possible to strengthen, simple as that. In the summer transfer transfer window this received priority status and we missed out on a major target or two.
The window now reopens and the only material change has been in the wrong direction, we've lost JJ. Can't wait to see who we get. | | | |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 13:04 - Dec 30 with 1332 views | Vegtablue |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 12:52 - Dec 30 by tractorboy1978 |
I'd say we've conceded borderline too many. If you historically look at teams that get automatic promotion, it averages out at around 40 goals conceded over a season but many of them are sub-40. We are on course for 46. We've conceded 2+ goals 7 times this season and been bailed out by being good goal scorers.
I don't think it's a big issue but it's a bigger issue for us than scoring goals is. [Post edited 30 Dec 2022 12:52]
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Wouldn't disagree with this but I'm not sure where it leads in the transfer window, if anywhere. Availability of defenders that would represent an upgrade to what we have feels unlikely, considering our demands of them with the ball. Is this an area better improved on the training field? | | | |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 13:05 - Dec 30 with 1331 views | Ryorry |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 12:56 - Dec 30 by Vegtablue |
Don't think you're being pessimistic Ryorry! Don't see the hysteria that's triggered ITFCson's "calm down" post either truth be told!
Maybe some are writing us off without reinforcements but I think most are recognizing an area that is very possible to strengthen, simple as that. In the summer transfer transfer window this received priority status and we missed out on a major target or two.
The window now reopens and the only material change has been in the wrong direction, we've lost JJ. Can't wait to see who we get. |
Zactly.
I wish I did live in ITFCson's "we will go up without another one (striker) without doubt" actually - it'd make my life on matchdays a helluva lot less stressful!! | |
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 13:07 - Dec 30 with 1321 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 12:56 - Dec 30 by Vegtablue |
Don't think you're being pessimistic Ryorry! Don't see the hysteria that's triggered ITFCson's "calm down" post either truth be told!
Maybe some are writing us off without reinforcements but I think most are recognizing an area that is very possible to strengthen, simple as that. In the summer transfer transfer window this received priority status and we missed out on a major target or two.
The window now reopens and the only material change has been in the wrong direction, we've lost JJ. Can't wait to see who we get. |
For me. We need 3 signings.
Striker
Another 10
Another for burns side.
Maybe.. maybe another RCB too. Feel abit harsh on donacien but for the work he puts in he's awful at crossing and has yet to score and with the role he's been given.. we need more imo. | |
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| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 13:14 - Dec 30 with 1312 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Top 2 guaranteed......even without another striker. on 13:04 - Dec 30 by Vegtablue |
Wouldn't disagree with this but I'm not sure where it leads in the transfer window, if anywhere. Availability of defenders that would represent an upgrade to what we have feels unlikely, considering our demands of them with the ball. Is this an area better improved on the training field? |
Certainly don't need more personnel defensively for me. But yeah, work on the training ground for sure. I'm convinced a big part of it is just defensive concentration levels linked to being so dominant and having to do so little defending generally.
We conceded 12 goals in McKenna's 23 games at the back end of last season - if we can get close to that sort of performance over the remainder of the season, we will be laughing our way to promotion as are far better offensively than we were last season, even before Jan additions. [Post edited 30 Dec 2022 13:15]
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