| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given 10:29 - Jan 31 with 6675 views | davblue |
as he's not gone anywhere yet.
Nothing for us i suspect. |  | | |  |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 10:32 - Jan 31 with 5380 views | Kieran_Knows |
Yep, think it's a given Whittaker ends up back there today. |  |
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| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 10:35 - Jan 31 with 5342 views | itfcjoe |
Think Swansea board have said to Martin they want to utilise him |  |
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| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 10:39 - Jan 31 with 5248 views | BiGDonnie |
Signing for Rangers I reckon. |  |
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| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 10:42 - Jan 31 with 5210 views | davblue |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 10:39 - Jan 31 by BiGDonnie |
Signing for Rangers I reckon. |
nope not unless something happens after Beale comments on him. | | | |
| They've already got 5 loanees.... on 10:43 - Jan 31 with 5196 views | Bloots |
...it would mean one of them not making the matchday squad.
Not sure how that would sit with the parent clubs.
He may move, but it's not a given that he'll go back to Plymouth. |  |
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| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 10:45 - Jan 31 with 5162 views | davblue |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 10:32 - Jan 31 by Kieran_Knows |
Yep, think it's a given Whittaker ends up back there today. |
I would be surprised if he doesn't.
Mehmeti from Wycombe to Bristol City will be an interesting one. I've liked what i've seen of him has a bit of magic, question marks over consistency but he carries the ball well and can create things. | | | |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:00 - Jan 31 with 4970 views | SitfcB |
Just seen him leaving Tesco Copdock with his meal deal.
[Tuna crunch sub, boiled eggs and lucazade sport] |  |
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| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:00 - Jan 31 with 4969 views | tractorboy1978 |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 10:45 - Jan 31 by davblue |
I would be surprised if he doesn't.
Mehmeti from Wycombe to Bristol City will be an interesting one. I've liked what i've seen of him has a bit of magic, question marks over consistency but he carries the ball well and can create things. |
Why would they let an asset they consider to be worth £2m odd go back to Plymouth for a peanuts wages contribution? |  | | |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:10 - Jan 31 with 4845 views | Stewart27 |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:00 - Jan 31 by tractorboy1978 |
Why would they let an asset they consider to be worth £2m odd go back to Plymouth for a peanuts wages contribution? |
They would have to play him then.
Why would an asset sit there rotting, whilst paying 100% of his wages? When he could he loaned out, a proportion of wages paid and getting game time meaning his sale value could be more at the end of the season. | | | |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:20 - Jan 31 with 4730 views | tractorboy1978 |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:10 - Jan 31 by Stewart27 |
They would have to play him then.
Why would an asset sit there rotting, whilst paying 100% of his wages? When he could he loaned out, a proportion of wages paid and getting game time meaning his sale value could be more at the end of the season. |
Sounds like that is what they intend to do.
His value doesn't get any higher by dropping down to play in L1 again. In fact it is more likely it drops if he goes back to Plymouth and doesn't hit the ground running again. | | | |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:24 - Jan 31 with 4677 views | davblue |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:00 - Jan 31 by tractorboy1978 |
Why would they let an asset they consider to be worth £2m odd go back to Plymouth for a peanuts wages contribution? |
what if they end up getting all of his wages paid which i believe they weren't before?
If he doesn't play for Swansea then his value will decrease, go to Plymouth and play and If he keeps his form up, he will only increase in value for Swansea at the end of the season. | | | |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:26 - Jan 31 with 4625 views | davblue |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:00 - Jan 31 by SitfcB |
Just seen him leaving Tesco Copdock with his meal deal.
[Tuna crunch sub, boiled eggs and lucazade sport] |
if this was ClaydonBlue i would have believed it.
im 50% sure you're wrong.. | | | |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:27 - Jan 31 with 4602 views | Swansea_Blue |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:20 - Jan 31 by tractorboy1978 |
Sounds like that is what they intend to do.
His value doesn't get any higher by dropping down to play in L1 again. In fact it is more likely it drops if he goes back to Plymouth and doesn't hit the ground running again. |
Their fans are split on the intentions. Quite a few seem pretty certain the manger doesn't want him. Considering they've already got a perfectly good striker not playing for the same reason, there could be some truth in that. They had someone else (Paterson) have a strop last year too under Russell Martin and not play for several weeks, plus been crap since he came back. I get the impression it's not a happy camp and could easily see Whittaker left to rot.
They remind me of us under Evans. |  |
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| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:28 - Jan 31 with 4579 views | tractorboy1978 |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:24 - Jan 31 by davblue |
what if they end up getting all of his wages paid which i believe they weren't before?
If he doesn't play for Swansea then his value will decrease, go to Plymouth and play and If he keeps his form up, he will only increase in value for Swansea at the end of the season. |
Do Plymouth have the resources for that? They didn't earlier in the window despite supposedly trying very hard.
Short of the right permanent offer coming in, it seems he's going to stay at Swansea and be used. Which frankly is the sensible decision because if he can show some form in the Championship he's worth 2/3/4 times more than the £2m they've been offered. I don't think his stock gets any higher going back to Plymouth. [Post edited 31 Jan 2023 11:33]
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| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:30 - Jan 31 with 4564 views | pafcprogs |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:20 - Jan 31 by tractorboy1978 |
Sounds like that is what they intend to do.
His value doesn't get any higher by dropping down to play in L1 again. In fact it is more likely it drops if he goes back to Plymouth and doesn't hit the ground running again. |
So with there caveat that I know nothing from inside or outside
80% he stays at Swansea
15% he goes to Rangers at the last minute
4% Last minute loan to us ( as in Argyle us)
1% Somewhere else
Our issue now is we have five loanees, and whilst we love a loan ( this season) with Azaz back and Wright C also playing a ten , and the new loan Matete nailed on starting that means we have to rotate with Mayor, Wright T.
Add the that we have Cosgrove loan) Waine Hardie and Ennis for one or two striker slots and that we have spent for us big fees to bring some of these in we may love the idea of MW back but the squad is suddenly top heavy.
Mumba and Longwijk are always going o bee in the 18 if fit just through numbers and performance.
Of course we could lose a player to injury at any time and then we would look like geniuses for having him but right now I think we would probably say we have moved on and look again in the Summer when we might be having a rethink on the squad depending on where we finish.
I still think he will end up at Rangers...but Swansea need dosh and they have played this so very badly.....
less than twelve hours to go and I will probably send this and find out he is back at Lincoln!! | | | |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:44 - Jan 31 with 4303 views | davblue |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:28 - Jan 31 by tractorboy1978 |
Do Plymouth have the resources for that? They didn't earlier in the window despite supposedly trying very hard.
Short of the right permanent offer coming in, it seems he's going to stay at Swansea and be used. Which frankly is the sensible decision because if he can show some form in the Championship he's worth 2/3/4 times more than the £2m they've been offered. I don't think his stock gets any higher going back to Plymouth. [Post edited 31 Jan 2023 11:33]
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who knows?
If the manager at Swansea who earlier on in the window wasn't a fan, and misuses him and doesn't get a performance out of him then his value drops also. | | | |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 13:14 - Jan 31 with 3672 views | ArnieM |
Plymouth is an interesting one this season. I mean, Town appear to be accused of “ buying the league”, but isn’t that what Plymouth are doing but on the cheap via the back door through numerous loans, which I thought I saw mentioned somewhere , that they weren’t paying the loanees wages in full? So isn’t that kinda like using Championship clubs (better?) players, on the cheap to gain promotion? I’m thinking specifically of Whittaker here….. they can’t afford to buy him , but they’re getting him on the cheap as a loanee….but I’m sure they have other players tha5 fall 8n to th8s category…. Or is that a very cute way of achieving promotion?
It might be a very short term it’s approach by them though, because if they got promoted but couldn’t then afford the transfer fee / full wages for that loaned player, then presumably they have lost, what? 4-5 players from their squad straight away. |  |
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| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 13:28 - Jan 31 with 3544 views | Rozz |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 13:14 - Jan 31 by ArnieM |
Plymouth is an interesting one this season. I mean, Town appear to be accused of “ buying the league”, but isn’t that what Plymouth are doing but on the cheap via the back door through numerous loans, which I thought I saw mentioned somewhere , that they weren’t paying the loanees wages in full? So isn’t that kinda like using Championship clubs (better?) players, on the cheap to gain promotion? I’m thinking specifically of Whittaker here….. they can’t afford to buy him , but they’re getting him on the cheap as a loanee….but I’m sure they have other players tha5 fall 8n to th8s category…. Or is that a very cute way of achieving promotion?
It might be a very short term it’s approach by them though, because if they got promoted but couldn’t then afford the transfer fee / full wages for that loaned player, then presumably they have lost, what? 4-5 players from their squad straight away. |
Huge challenge if they go up. Don't know what their financial situation is like but they'll be looking at a considerable rebuild, or just paying the bills and consolidating perhaps?
It's an interesting approach, not too dissimilar I guess to what we were trying to achieve (to a lesser degree) with Mick and successive premier league loanees. Feels a bit cheap though I agree. |  | | |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 13:29 - Jan 31 with 3538 views | Jon_456 |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 13:14 - Jan 31 by ArnieM |
Plymouth is an interesting one this season. I mean, Town appear to be accused of “ buying the league”, but isn’t that what Plymouth are doing but on the cheap via the back door through numerous loans, which I thought I saw mentioned somewhere , that they weren’t paying the loanees wages in full? So isn’t that kinda like using Championship clubs (better?) players, on the cheap to gain promotion? I’m thinking specifically of Whittaker here….. they can’t afford to buy him , but they’re getting him on the cheap as a loanee….but I’m sure they have other players tha5 fall 8n to th8s category…. Or is that a very cute way of achieving promotion?
It might be a very short term it’s approach by them though, because if they got promoted but couldn’t then afford the transfer fee / full wages for that loaned player, then presumably they have lost, what? 4-5 players from their squad straight away. |
In other words, Plymouth have used the loan option the same as any club can do in this division. They’ve just been more successful than others.
No different to what we were doing in the championship under Evans. | | | |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 14:49 - Jan 31 with 3239 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 11:00 - Jan 31 by SitfcB |
Just seen him leaving Tesco Copdock with his meal deal.
[Tuna crunch sub, boiled eggs and lucazade sport] |
Were you in Burger King again? |  |
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| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 15:16 - Jan 31 with 3127 views | Scuzzer |
Dont mind...unless she goes back to Dr Who. |  |
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| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 16:20 - Jan 31 with 2934 views | Radlett_blue |
| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 13:14 - Jan 31 by ArnieM |
Plymouth is an interesting one this season. I mean, Town appear to be accused of “ buying the league”, but isn’t that what Plymouth are doing but on the cheap via the back door through numerous loans, which I thought I saw mentioned somewhere , that they weren’t paying the loanees wages in full? So isn’t that kinda like using Championship clubs (better?) players, on the cheap to gain promotion? I’m thinking specifically of Whittaker here….. they can’t afford to buy him , but they’re getting him on the cheap as a loanee….but I’m sure they have other players tha5 fall 8n to th8s category…. Or is that a very cute way of achieving promotion?
It might be a very short term it’s approach by them though, because if they got promoted but couldn’t then afford the transfer fee / full wages for that loaned player, then presumably they have lost, what? 4-5 players from their squad straight away. |
If Plymoputh get promoted, they probably won't spend much money, might get in some better loan players but I think their realistic ambition is to be a yo-yo club rather like Rotherham. Their main aim might be to hang on to Steven Schumacher. |  |
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| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 17:52 - Jan 31 with 2625 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Mick Beale says Swans rate him and that he believes he was called back to be part of the squad |  |
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| What are we expecting today Whittaker to Plymouth seems a given on 20:13 - Jan 31 with 2358 views | GlasgowBlue |
A Rangers friend seems confident that he is coming up here. |  |
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