| So Wednesday have appealed on 09:47 - Feb 18 with 4501 views | Pinewoodblue |
If he misses the usual three games would be against Charlton, Peterborough & Portsmouth.
Add an extra for a frivolous appeal and would also miss Bolton. |  |
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| So Wednesday have appealed on 09:55 - Feb 18 with 4465 views | Zx1988 |
Banter era rules dictate that the appeal will be successful and that, instead, Burns will be banned for three matches for simulation or suchlike.
Or just for violent conduct for headbutting Johnson's elbow. |  |
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| So Wednesday have appealed on 10:58 - Feb 18 with 4324 views | tonybied |
Is there actually footage of the incident as the ifollow camera was zoomed in and missed it at the time. If there's no proper footage then I'd imagine a Sheffield Wednesday appeal might not be spurious! |  | | |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 11:11 - Feb 18 with 4270 views | billlm |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 10:58 - Feb 18 by tonybied |
Is there actually footage of the incident as the ifollow camera was zoomed in and missed it at the time. If there's no proper footage then I'd imagine a Sheffield Wednesday appeal might not be spurious! |
If they use the efl film he will get away with it, if they use the film from behind the goal, which was posted somewhere on here yesterday he won't, |  | | |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 11:43 - Feb 18 with 4139 views | Herbivore |
This has all the hallmarks of a textbook frivolous appeal. He's elbowed Burns in the face, that's a red card all day long. |  |
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| So Wednesday have appealed on 11:47 - Feb 18 with 4116 views | tonybied |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 11:11 - Feb 18 by billlm |
If they use the efl film he will get away with it, if they use the film from behind the goal, which was posted somewhere on here yesterday he won't, |
Havee there any cases of a footballer being charged with violent conduct by the efl from fans footage previously? | | | |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 11:48 - Feb 18 with 4112 views | TrumptonBlue |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 10:58 - Feb 18 by tonybied |
Is there actually footage of the incident as the ifollow camera was zoomed in and missed it at the time. If there's no proper footage then I'd imagine a Sheffield Wednesday appeal might not be spurious! |
Someone postage some footage at the time from behind the goal. Burns appears to start the incident by grabbing Johnson by the shoulders for no apparent reason. Johnson tries to shrug him off by throwing his arms back twice. I wasn't convinced from that that he used his elbow, and I can see why they'd appeal. |  | | |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 12:23 - Feb 18 with 3951 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 11:11 - Feb 18 by billlm |
If they use the efl film he will get away with it, if they use the film from behind the goal, which was posted somewhere on here yesterday he won't, |
It would be an interesting one if they cannot use any fan footage as the assistant referee saw the incident but couldn't identify the player. For some reason, the FA have charged Johnson, effectively saying they have identified that he was the player involved.
In the absence of footage proving the official to be mistaken (the FA tend to back their officials unless there is very clear evidence to the contrary) the only grounds for appeal could be mistaken identity. Would they have to offer up the genuine culprit if they used this defence?
It seems to have a high risk of frivolous appeal to me but we will see. |  |
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| So Wednesday have appealed on 12:44 - Feb 18 with 3842 views | Samuelowen88 |
Seems a strange appeal, its not the argument is whether the incident occurred or not.
The officials saw the incident, and couldn't identify.
By whatever method they have now identified who they think the culprit was.
So SW either have to admit it was him, offer up someone else with evidence (impossible), or prove beyond reasonable doubt that the offence in question never happened. |  |
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| So Wednesday have appealed on 14:22 - Feb 18 with 3468 views | oldburian |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 09:55 - Feb 18 by Zx1988 |
Banter era rules dictate that the appeal will be successful and that, instead, Burns will be banned for three matches for simulation or suchlike.
Or just for violent conduct for headbutting Johnson's elbow. |
In my playing days I came up against an ex team mate who decided early on to leave his mark. The referee gave the foul against me much to my opponents surprise. “ Ref got it right Phil” I said, “ vicious tackle by my shins on your studs”. Referee then proceeded to book me for ungentlemanly conduct! | | | |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 14:30 - Feb 18 with 3427 views | BigCommon |
Think their squad is slowly being decimated by injuries... Bit of a hit and hope appeal, imo..
But maybe they feel its worth the risk.. An extra match ban, or the appeal is successful and he gets away with it... Probably worth the gamble.. |  | | |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 14:33 - Feb 18 with 3396 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 14:22 - Feb 18 by oldburian |
In my playing days I came up against an ex team mate who decided early on to leave his mark. The referee gave the foul against me much to my opponents surprise. “ Ref got it right Phil” I said, “ vicious tackle by my shins on your studs”. Referee then proceeded to book me for ungentlemanly conduct! |
In hockey, such clear dissent would always have been a card. We were once warned about how harsh the home umpire always is when playing in Lincolnshire. Sure enough, early in the match one of our defenders had the ball hit him on the shin inside the D and the umpire gave a short corner. Our player yelled "that's rub..." and the yellow card (a temporary sending off) was out before he could finish.
As he made his way off, the defender added "of the green that is! That's all I was saying, that's the rub of the green!" | |
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| So Wednesday have appealed on 14:50 - Feb 18 with 3340 views | GavTWTD |
 FA Charge Wednesday's Johnson 16th Feb 2023 14:47Sheffield Wednesday wing-back Marvin Johnson has been charged with improper/violent conduct by the FA in relation to the elbowing incident during the first half of the Blues’ 2-2 draw with the Owls on Saturday.  15
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| So Wednesday have appealed on 14:57 - Feb 18 with 3285 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 14:50 - Feb 18 by GavTWTD |
FA Charge Wednesday's Johnson 16th Feb 2023 14:47Sheffield Wednesday wing-back Marvin Johnson has been charged with improper/violent conduct by the FA in relation to the elbowing incident during the first half of the Blues’ 2-2 draw with the Owls on Saturday. 15
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Will be interesting to discover what grounds they are appealing on. | |
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| So Wednesday have appealed on 17:48 - Feb 18 with 3114 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 10:58 - Feb 18 by tonybied |
Is there actually footage of the incident as the ifollow camera was zoomed in and missed it at the time. If there's no proper footage then I'd imagine a Sheffield Wednesday appeal might not be spurious! |
Being as he was only charged after fan footage was posted, I'd imagine they are not restricted to the ifollow footage. Also, the other ITFC cameras, (used for 'Town in 5') caught it. |  |
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| So Wednesday have appealed on 18:10 - Feb 18 with 3016 views | Herbivore |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 11:48 - Feb 18 by TrumptonBlue |
Someone postage some footage at the time from behind the goal. Burns appears to start the incident by grabbing Johnson by the shoulders for no apparent reason. Johnson tries to shrug him off by throwing his arms back twice. I wasn't convinced from that that he used his elbow, and I can see why they'd appeal. |
Sorry, what? | |
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| So Wednesday have appealed on 18:16 - Feb 18 with 2987 views | nethertonowl |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 11:43 - Feb 18 by Herbivore |
This has all the hallmarks of a textbook frivolous appeal. He's elbowed Burns in the face, that's a red card all day long. |
Unless Burns is play acting, I have seen nothing positive that shows any contact. from all three fans footage. Obviously the tv shows nothing. | | | |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 18:20 - Feb 18 with 2956 views | J2BLUE |
Meh. They will be champions.
Our fight is now for second. |  |
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| So Wednesday have appealed on 18:33 - Feb 18 with 2886 views | GeoffSentence |
No idea what grounds they think they have for an appeal. He elbowed Wes, not once but twice, once in the head. The FA don't let you get away with th at lightly, as Morsy found out for that shove against Stanley. |  |
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| So Wednesday have appealed on 19:06 - Feb 18 with 2697 views | Herbivore |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 18:16 - Feb 18 by nethertonowl |
Unless Burns is play acting, I have seen nothing positive that shows any contact. from all three fans footage. Obviously the tv shows nothing. |
Fair play that you can post on a forum without the power of sight. | |
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| So Wednesday have appealed on 19:31 - Feb 18 with 2569 views | nethertonowl |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 19:06 - Feb 18 by Herbivore |
Fair play that you can post on a forum without the power of sight. |
Guess I must have the same eyesight at trumpton blue. who just said
sonmeone postage some footage at the time from behind the goal. Burns appears to start the incident by grabbing Johnson by the shoulders for no apparent reason. Johnson tries to shrug him off by throwing his arms back twice. I wasn't convinced from that that he used his elbow, and I can see why they'd appeal
Maybe its not my eye sight but you cant see past all the excuses.Fog, bad luck, cheating , bad refs, deflections etc. other teams being better than you, etc | | | |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 19:46 - Feb 18 with 2492 views | Dubtractor |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 19:31 - Feb 18 by nethertonowl |
Guess I must have the same eyesight at trumpton blue. who just said
sonmeone postage some footage at the time from behind the goal. Burns appears to start the incident by grabbing Johnson by the shoulders for no apparent reason. Johnson tries to shrug him off by throwing his arms back twice. I wasn't convinced from that that he used his elbow, and I can see why they'd appeal
Maybe its not my eye sight but you cant see past all the excuses.Fog, bad luck, cheating , bad refs, deflections etc. other teams being better than you, etc |
With all due respect, sod off back to your own forum. |  |
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| So Wednesday have appealed on 19:50 - Feb 18 with 2461 views | GeoffSentence |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 19:46 - Feb 18 by Dubtractor |
With all due respect, sod off back to your own forum. |
Is TWTD unusual in attracting stalkers from other clubs? Or is this a common thiing? | |
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| So Wednesday have appealed on 19:57 - Feb 18 with 2427 views | gringoblue |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 19:31 - Feb 18 by nethertonowl |
Guess I must have the same eyesight at trumpton blue. who just said
sonmeone postage some footage at the time from behind the goal. Burns appears to start the incident by grabbing Johnson by the shoulders for no apparent reason. Johnson tries to shrug him off by throwing his arms back twice. I wasn't convinced from that that he used his elbow, and I can see why they'd appeal
Maybe its not my eye sight but you cant see past all the excuses.Fog, bad luck, cheating , bad refs, deflections etc. other teams being better than you, etc |
Hope this helps https://ibb.co/gZjSNwp |  | | |
| So Wednesday have appealed on 20:13 - Feb 18 with 2310 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Indeed, it is quite clear from video footage that he attempts to elbow Burns and misses, so throws the other arm and catches him with his elbow. Burns may have put his arms on him first but it is a contact sport and the officials did not see that as a foul.
The assistant referee saw the offence and gave the penalty. All the footage supports what the assistant referee saw. Moore has not said what reason they are appealing the charge but there is no obvious reason. Perhaps there is something we have not considered but unless there is something very persuasive to contradict all of this, he will surely get an extra match ban for a frivolous appeal. | |
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