| Plymouth fans forum 19:38 - Feb 25 with 8289 views | ringwoodblue |
is a bit tasty tonight. Lots saying that Schumacher is making too many changes and that Cooper’s absence is costing them, some saying the Pizza trophy is a distraction and others saying it’s just a blip and there’s no cause for concern.
One said ‘Losing Cooper for rest of season will cost us promotion. Burton isn't vocal enough, and communication with defence is non existent.’ Let’s hope he/she is right. Look out Muff, we are coming to get you!
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| Plymouth fans forum on 20:00 - Feb 25 with 6831 views | Hipsterectomy |
we've caught up 5 points in 2 games, with 5 points to go (4 if you count g/d)
no wonder they're getting worried |  |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 20:13 - Feb 25 with 6646 views | LeoMuff |
They are rocking on doubt, 12th in form table and Barnsley and Derby in 2 of next 3. |  |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 20:26 - Feb 25 with 6490 views | Miaow |
I think today was the third time this season that they have conceded five. |  |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 20:36 - Feb 25 with 6338 views | le2blue |
| Plymouth fans forum on 20:26 - Feb 25 by Miaow |
I think today was the third time this season that they have conceded five. |
Dodgy keeper, from the highlights he conceded some pretty poor goals. Let’s hope he continues doing that. |  | | |
| Plymouth fans forum on 20:41 - Feb 25 with 6283 views | J2BLUE |
Good. Hopefully they will get 4 sent off next game and score 12 own goals. |  |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 21:00 - Feb 25 with 6072 views | GeoffSentence |
Odd though it is, what with them 5 points ahaead of us, but currently I am more concerned about Barnsley than Plumouth. It would be in the right and proper vain of The Banter Era to overhaul Plymouth, only to get beaten to the autos by Barnsley. |  |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 21:04 - Feb 25 with 6006 views | le2blue |
| Plymouth fans forum on 21:00 - Feb 25 by GeoffSentence |
Odd though it is, what with them 5 points ahaead of us, but currently I am more concerned about Barnsley than Plumouth. It would be in the right and proper vain of The Banter Era to overhaul Plymouth, only to get beaten to the autos by Barnsley. |
Don’t disagree, but then take look at their next run of games, that’ll be tough including a Yorkshire derby. | | | |
| Plymouth fans forum on 21:42 - Feb 25 with 5677 views | ArnieM |
OP: beautiful, thank you for posting that. The psychology is starting to turn isn’t it. Funny how the pressure makes people react. Hopefully their players are feeling it now too. |  |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 22:10 - Feb 25 with 5369 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Plymouth fans forum on 21:00 - Feb 25 by GeoffSentence |
Odd though it is, what with them 5 points ahaead of us, but currently I am more concerned about Barnsley than Plumouth. It would be in the right and proper vain of The Banter Era to overhaul Plymouth, only to get beaten to the autos by Barnsley. |
As Plymouth have shown it’s impossible to maintain that sort of form. I think Barnsley will burn out. Sheff weds are the exception to the rule and look fairly formidable.
Hopefully we are picking up form just at the right time, difficult to say given the weakness of recent opposition. |  | | |
| Plymouth fans forum on 22:20 - Feb 25 with 5243 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Also nice to see they have the same type of ghouls that we do that appear only after a defeat to revel in misery! | | | |
| Plymouth fans forum on 22:44 - Feb 25 with 5000 views | J2BLUE |
| Plymouth fans forum on 21:00 - Feb 25 by GeoffSentence |
Odd though it is, what with them 5 points ahaead of us, but currently I am more concerned about Barnsley than Plumouth. It would be in the right and proper vain of The Banter Era to overhaul Plymouth, only to get beaten to the autos by Barnsley. |
Think we need to give Plymouth more respect. Aside from Sheff Wed, if any other team finish above them they will have a very good chance of automatic promotion.
Plymouth have only lost 5 games all season. Hopefully they will be killed by draws going forwards and we can pile the pressure on. | |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 22:55 - Feb 25 with 4890 views | Tonytown |
| Plymouth fans forum on 22:44 - Feb 25 by J2BLUE |
Think we need to give Plymouth more respect. Aside from Sheff Wed, if any other team finish above them they will have a very good chance of automatic promotion.
Plymouth have only lost 5 games all season. Hopefully they will be killed by draws going forwards and we can pile the pressure on. |
Our season will be defined by the following 3 away games:
Bolton
Barnsley
Derby
A win and 2 draws out of those, or perhaps 2 wins & a draw is what we need to keep up the hope for the top 2 & it keeps those teams at bay behind us. | | | |
| Plymouth fans forum on 11:07 - Feb 26 with 3935 views | Sharkey |
I still think Peterborough will make the play-offs. They always seem to have so many decent forwards, (and not just because most of them have double-barrelled names.) |  | | |
| Plymouth fans forum on 11:18 - Feb 26 with 3844 views | clive_baker |
The playoffs is going to be brutal isn’t it when you consider it’ll likely be 4 from Plymouth, Ipswich, Bolton, Barnsley, Derby. Would certainly tee up 2 interesting semis and final. Hopefully we’re the one to sneak 2nd. |  |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 11:29 - Feb 26 with 3797 views | bournemouthblue |
| Plymouth fans forum on 11:18 - Feb 26 by clive_baker |
The playoffs is going to be brutal isn’t it when you consider it’ll likely be 4 from Plymouth, Ipswich, Bolton, Barnsley, Derby. Would certainly tee up 2 interesting semis and final. Hopefully we’re the one to sneak 2nd. |
Whoever makes the top two can sit back with a bag of popcorn and watch the carnage of the playoffs unfold
It's mad to think you have Ipswich, Derby, Bolton and even Barnsley in the playoffs when Luton and Millwall are in the Championship playoffs, the world is upside down |  |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 11:39 - Feb 26 with 3741 views | Meadowlark |
| Plymouth fans forum on 22:10 - Feb 25 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
As Plymouth have shown it’s impossible to maintain that sort of form. I think Barnsley will burn out. Sheff weds are the exception to the rule and look fairly formidable.
Hopefully we are picking up form just at the right time, difficult to say given the weakness of recent opposition. |
I don't think our last two games have indicated that we are "picking up form."
I think they have shown that we can defeat poor opposition and get a bit lucky (maybe it's our turn?) against better teams.
We were fortunate to get away with three points yesterday.
Perhaps fortune is now starting to turn our way, but form is still pretty patchy. |  | | |
| Plymouth fans forum on 11:46 - Feb 26 with 3708 views | bournemouthblue |
| Plymouth fans forum on 11:39 - Feb 26 by Meadowlark |
I don't think our last two games have indicated that we are "picking up form."
I think they have shown that we can defeat poor opposition and get a bit lucky (maybe it's our turn?) against better teams.
We were fortunate to get away with three points yesterday.
Perhaps fortune is now starting to turn our way, but form is still pretty patchy. |
I think the first half was a little bit cagey but we could and should have scored more than one in truth
MK have a better line up than their league position suggests, if they can put together any form of cohesion, they should be more competitive as the season goes on | |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 11:47 - Feb 26 with 3707 views | franz_tyson |
I can see many really concerned at the prospect of playing a Derby or a Barnsley in the play-offs. In which case, why should we be automatic promotion candidates if we're really worried about teams just below us? I've made peace with the fact we'll likely be here in L1 next season, but we'll still have a stab at the play-offs - even if we're underdogs. We shouldn't be underdogs with the amount we've spent, but we've lost faith with our team over the last few months. Even the ultra loyal ones have gone backwards and started to say that a 6th place is still an improvement on last season. Might be... but it's still an underachievement.
I'm happy to have a pop at the play-offs, but until we can put a run off wins together and actually beat a couple of top six teams - then I think top two is a pipe-dream. It's not all about Plymouth.... we've got to out-perform Derby, Bolton and Bransley as well as tricky games against the likes of Posh and Wycombe... and probably we'll lose points elsewhere. I'll take play-offs coming into good form in the last 3-4 games. | | | |
| Plymouth fans forum on 11:52 - Feb 26 with 3677 views | clive_baker |
| Plymouth fans forum on 11:39 - Feb 26 by Meadowlark |
I don't think our last two games have indicated that we are "picking up form."
I think they have shown that we can defeat poor opposition and get a bit lucky (maybe it's our turn?) against better teams.
We were fortunate to get away with three points yesterday.
Perhaps fortune is now starting to turn our way, but form is still pretty patchy. |
We’ve not really played any better than most of the games that went before it, like you say we’ve just had that rub that maybe we weren’t getting previously. I don’t think we were playing badly before, we just had too many draws and there are too many people that let results dictate the narrative. For all the flouncing and bed wetting we’re now unbeaten in 6, we’ve taken 12 points from them (2ppg is a decent run rate), including 2 four-nil home wins and now 3 consecutive clean sheets. We’ll be in March by our next game and we’ve only lost 4 games all season, and one of those was a complete farce in the fog. Even a number of our draws you could certainly argue we were unlucky (Wednesday away, Barnsley, Charlton) all spring to mind plus others against very stubborn defensively minded opposition who we’ve struggled to break down.
Fundamentally there isn’t a lot wrong. I think supporters need to remain a lot more subjective, enjoy the journey and appreciate the progress that’s being made. | |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 12:02 - Feb 26 with 3614 views | LankHenners |
Well it's nice to see them posting on their own forum for a change. |  |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 12:10 - Feb 26 with 3573 views | jayessess |
Considering their resources and what that means for squad depth they've done extraordinarily well to keep chugging along. I think to over-achieve your budget like that generally you've got to have an unusually clear run injuries wise and they haven't.
No Randall, Scarr, Galloway, Cooper in the squad yesterday, Edwards, Azaz, Houghton on the bench (presumably managing minutes for some of them). It's not going to see you instantly start losing games but it's going to be attritional over time. |  |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 12:52 - Feb 26 with 3414 views | ArnieM |
| Plymouth fans forum on 12:10 - Feb 26 by jayessess |
Considering their resources and what that means for squad depth they've done extraordinarily well to keep chugging along. I think to over-achieve your budget like that generally you've got to have an unusually clear run injuries wise and they haven't.
No Randall, Scarr, Galloway, Cooper in the squad yesterday, Edwards, Azaz, Houghton on the bench (presumably managing minutes for some of them). It's not going to see you instantly start losing games but it's going to be attritional over time. |
Isn’t this the first time they’ve really had significant injuries to contend with though? By comparison we’ve had our midfield ripped out of the team for at least half the season, I think..
Also interesting , was the comment by Ashton (in the interview with Holland re Towns approach) that at league one level clubs could mount a serious challenge for promotion on the back of loans and freebies, but pay the consequences of that if promoted, and that Town’s approach was more one of gradual re-building and sustainability beyond league one. It made me think specifically of Plymouth over the last couple of seasons. They’ve made good use of loanees, although they have bought in the recent window. But I suspect if they did get promoted, would struggle to stay up. I also think Sheffield Weds will find it difficult to stay up with their current side, who I feel are very much in a league one mould. But we shall see…. | |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 13:19 - Feb 26 with 3262 views | jayessess |
| Plymouth fans forum on 12:52 - Feb 26 by ArnieM |
Isn’t this the first time they’ve really had significant injuries to contend with though? By comparison we’ve had our midfield ripped out of the team for at least half the season, I think..
Also interesting , was the comment by Ashton (in the interview with Holland re Towns approach) that at league one level clubs could mount a serious challenge for promotion on the back of loans and freebies, but pay the consequences of that if promoted, and that Town’s approach was more one of gradual re-building and sustainability beyond league one. It made me think specifically of Plymouth over the last couple of seasons. They’ve made good use of loanees, although they have bought in the recent window. But I suspect if they did get promoted, would struggle to stay up. I also think Sheffield Weds will find it difficult to stay up with their current side, who I feel are very much in a league one mould. But we shall see…. |
They've had what seemed significant injuries at the time but I think now is as bad as it has got (Cooper especially). We've struggled a bit with injuries at times, but our budget buys us a fair bit of slack. None of the players Plymouth brought in during January have ever really played at the top end of this division before, whereas 3/4 of our additions had (and the other was starting in the Championship).
Reality for Plymouth is that if promoted they would instantly be in a position where they had a bottom 6 budget for the league, 5 first teamers going back to their parent club and a lot of senior professionals who are long shots for cutting it in the Championship. I mean, James Wilson?! Come on. Not impossible to progress from there (there are smaller clubs than them in the Championship) but very tough and there are similar sized clubs for whom it was a ceiling.
Sheffield Wednesday - I think they'd be fine to be honest. Good-sized budget for the league, fair wind momentum-wise, plenty of experienced players who've already been competitive at that level. They probably aren't positioning themselves to push on like Sunderland have, but they'd stay up. | |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 13:30 - Feb 26 with 3191 views | GeoffSentence |
| Plymouth fans forum on 11:46 - Feb 26 by bournemouthblue |
I think the first half was a little bit cagey but we could and should have scored more than one in truth
MK have a better line up than their league position suggests, if they can put together any form of cohesion, they should be more competitive as the season goes on |
I'm surprised that MK Dons are in the bottom four when you think they can call on the likes of Mo Eisa and Will Grigg.
I thought they looked pretty decent yesterday. They gave us a nerve biting moment or two and even in the second half when it ws pretty much one way traffic they defended well by and large, surprisingly well for a team that has leaked goals recently.
They are probably down there because even when attacking well they couldn't score, as typified by that five shot scramble, but I reckon that goes hand in hand with confidence. | |
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| Plymouth fans forum on 13:34 - Feb 26 with 3164 views | jayessess |
| Plymouth fans forum on 13:30 - Feb 26 by GeoffSentence |
I'm surprised that MK Dons are in the bottom four when you think they can call on the likes of Mo Eisa and Will Grigg.
I thought they looked pretty decent yesterday. They gave us a nerve biting moment or two and even in the second half when it ws pretty much one way traffic they defended well by and large, surprisingly well for a team that has leaked goals recently.
They are probably down there because even when attacking well they couldn't score, as typified by that five shot scramble, but I reckon that goes hand in hand with confidence. |
Yeah, they were bad in both boxes (lucky to get away with just the one goal) but gave us a game other than that.
In general most teams in this division will give you a game at their place if you aren't on it. | |
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