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Ah, what friends Rishi now has 13:26 - Mar 9 with 1406 viewsElderGrizzly



From the Guardian:
Éric Zemmour, the French far-right commentator, supporter of the “great replacement” theory that Muslim immigrants are replacing native Europeans and candidate for president in last year’s election (he came fourth), has also praised Rishi Sunak’s new asylum policy

Italy's far-right Deputy PM has also praised his plan today on social media.
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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 13:37 - Mar 9 with 1338 viewsBlueBadger

Can we call it fascism yet?


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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 13:45 - Mar 9 with 1301 viewsDJR

Here's another friend.

Italy’s deputy prime minister, Matteo Salvini, has praised Rishi Sunak’s anti-immigration measures as “harsh but fair”.

In a post on Instagram, Salvini, leader of the far-right League, quoted a tweet by Sunak, translated into Italian, in which Sunak said: “If you arrive illegally in the UK, you can’t claim asylum; you can’t benefit from our modern slavery protections; you can’t make spurious human rights claims; you can’t stay”.

Beneath the post, Salvini wrote:

Words from the UK prime minister. Harsh but fair.
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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 13:47 - Mar 9 with 1284 viewsiamatractorboy

Now what's that saying... something about being judged by the company you keep...
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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 13:47 - Mar 9 with 1273 viewsSwansea_Blue

Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 13:47 - Mar 9 by iamatractorboy

Now what's that saying... something about being judged by the company you keep...


A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush?

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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 14:02 - Mar 9 with 1219 viewsDJR

And just look at how bonkers the thinking of many in his own party is, and just how right wing they are on economic as well as social issues.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tax/news/how-jeremy-corbyns-hard-left-high-tax-manif
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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 14:04 - Mar 9 with 1204 viewsRyorry

Also brings the sheer appalling disgrace of it home when you try to imagine Churchill adopting the same attitude to refuse or turn back refugees from Hitler in the 1930s-40s.

My parents, and one set of grandparents were amongst those who were readily granted refugee status then, & of course we all had/have lifelong gratitude for that. My Dad started his own business from nothing, it was eventually successful, & both my parents became unswerving Tory voters.

Absolutely certain that if they were still alive they'd be horrified at what the tories have become now, and would be switching their votes to LD. Pre-2012, that would have been unthinkable for them.

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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 15:12 - Mar 9 with 1129 viewsDJR

Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 14:04 - Mar 9 by Ryorry

Also brings the sheer appalling disgrace of it home when you try to imagine Churchill adopting the same attitude to refuse or turn back refugees from Hitler in the 1930s-40s.

My parents, and one set of grandparents were amongst those who were readily granted refugee status then, & of course we all had/have lifelong gratitude for that. My Dad started his own business from nothing, it was eventually successful, & both my parents became unswerving Tory voters.

Absolutely certain that if they were still alive they'd be horrified at what the tories have become now, and would be switching their votes to LD. Pre-2012, that would have been unthinkable for them.


There's really no room in the party for decent people anymore (Dominic Grieve, Rory Stewart), and any who are keep their heads down, terrified of the reaction of those who vote for them.

I've yet to hear any Tory condemn what the government has announced, but surely, for example, Theresa May, the architect of the modern slavery legislation, must be appalled at what is going on?

The vote on second reading of the Bill next week will be interesting because we will find out if any Tories have any principles. Clearly the MP, whose footage you posted, doesn't have any.
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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 15:16 - Mar 9 with 1109 viewsMattinLondon

Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 15:12 - Mar 9 by DJR

There's really no room in the party for decent people anymore (Dominic Grieve, Rory Stewart), and any who are keep their heads down, terrified of the reaction of those who vote for them.

I've yet to hear any Tory condemn what the government has announced, but surely, for example, Theresa May, the architect of the modern slavery legislation, must be appalled at what is going on?

The vote on second reading of the Bill next week will be interesting because we will find out if any Tories have any principles. Clearly the MP, whose footage you posted, doesn't have any.
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Considering May was the creator of the UK being a hostile place I don’t think she’ll be that bothered.

As Home Secretary she wasn’t that welcoming and her Brexit rhetoric was equally as hostile.
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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 15:31 - Mar 9 with 1052 viewsDJR

Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 15:16 - Mar 9 by MattinLondon

Considering May was the creator of the UK being a hostile place I don’t think she’ll be that bothered.

As Home Secretary she wasn’t that welcoming and her Brexit rhetoric was equally as hostile.
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On reflection, I was wrong to even mention her.

The Windrush scandal, in particular, a result of the hostile environment, was a disgrace.

I speak as someone born in a Commonwealth country who came to this country in 1960 but had my status as a British citizen confirmed around 1970 when it was easy to do so. Many other people, with the passage of time, were not so fortunate.
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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 16:09 - Mar 9 with 969 viewsKropotkin123

Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 13:37 - Mar 9 by BlueBadger

Can we call it fascism yet?



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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 16:09 - Mar 9 with 965 viewsSwansea_Blue

Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 14:02 - Mar 9 by DJR

And just look at how bonkers the thinking of many in his own party is, and just how right wing they are on economic as well as social issues.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tax/news/how-jeremy-corbyns-hard-left-high-tax-manif


Paywall, but was Corbyn's manifesto really "hard left"? Several of the economic policies reflected what you'd see in coalition governments or centre left governments in European countries. Presumably this is just Telegraph talk?

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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 16:26 - Mar 9 with 941 viewsDJR

Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 16:09 - Mar 9 by Swansea_Blue

Paywall, but was Corbyn's manifesto really "hard left"? Several of the economic policies reflected what you'd see in coalition governments or centre left governments in European countries. Presumably this is just Telegraph talk?


Oh yes, it was not hard left at all, but that was the message conveyed about the Corbyn manifesto even by those not of the right.

I think the point I was trying to make is that those on the right of the Tory aren't happy with how right wing the country is economically, despite 13 years of a pretty right wing government.
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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 16:26 - Mar 9 with 943 viewsJ2BLUE

Rarely does this government do anything that genuinely leaves me open mouthed but 'you won't benefit from our modern slavery protections' has done it.

What the actual f##k?

Truly impaired.
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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 16:33 - Mar 9 with 924 viewsBlueBadger

Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 16:26 - Mar 9 by J2BLUE

Rarely does this government do anything that genuinely leaves me open mouthed but 'you won't benefit from our modern slavery protections' has done it.

What the actual f##k?


Yeah, that's not really going to work as deterrent for traffickers, is it?

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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 17:14 - Mar 9 with 834 viewsOldsmoker

Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 16:33 - Mar 9 by BlueBadger

Yeah, that's not really going to work as deterrent for traffickers, is it?


Traffickers are wealth creators aren't they? - they make shed loads from it and avoid paying taxes on that income.
They've seen an opportunity and are exploiting it.
If their actions cause problems for others then that's the others problem not theirs.
The Traffickers are true Tories.

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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 17:20 - Mar 9 with 823 viewsDJR

Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 16:33 - Mar 9 by BlueBadger

Yeah, that's not really going to work as deterrent for traffickers, is it?


And I don't suppose there will be many (if any) people contemplating the crossing who are even aware of what Braverman is doing.

Even if they are, and they dig a little further, they will realise nothing the government has done to date has actually worked.
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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 17:35 - Mar 9 with 783 viewsjontysnut

Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 15:12 - Mar 9 by DJR

There's really no room in the party for decent people anymore (Dominic Grieve, Rory Stewart), and any who are keep their heads down, terrified of the reaction of those who vote for them.

I've yet to hear any Tory condemn what the government has announced, but surely, for example, Theresa May, the architect of the modern slavery legislation, must be appalled at what is going on?

The vote on second reading of the Bill next week will be interesting because we will find out if any Tories have any principles. Clearly the MP, whose footage you posted, doesn't have any.
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Compared to the current lot Grieve and Stewart (and as others suggest Ken Clarke) do seem 'decent' but their voting record while in government doesn't quite convince me. They might do politics in a more polite and civilised way than 30p Lee and other shouty red wallers or blustering backwoods men, but then so does Michael Gove.
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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 17:37 - Mar 9 with 778 viewsDJR

Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 17:35 - Mar 9 by jontysnut

Compared to the current lot Grieve and Stewart (and as others suggest Ken Clarke) do seem 'decent' but their voting record while in government doesn't quite convince me. They might do politics in a more polite and civilised way than 30p Lee and other shouty red wallers or blustering backwoods men, but then so does Michael Gove.


Very true.
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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 17:56 - Mar 9 with 749 viewsBlueBadger

Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 17:35 - Mar 9 by jontysnut

Compared to the current lot Grieve and Stewart (and as others suggest Ken Clarke) do seem 'decent' but their voting record while in government doesn't quite convince me. They might do politics in a more polite and civilised way than 30p Lee and other shouty red wallers or blustering backwoods men, but then so does Michael Gove.


Lest we forget, Ken Clarke is at the root of a lot of deep rooted problems and unnecessary NHS costs with his introduction off Efficient Private Sector involvement.
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Ah, what friends Rishi now has on 18:02 - Mar 9 with 729 viewsHARRY10

So would this latter day Pierre Laval be willing to allow those boat people to be returned to France as the more moderate French politicians (so far), will not ?

There is a wonderful Monty Python sketch where a man claims to have written all the works of Shakespeare. When asked how that could be as he was only 37, he replies "I was rather hoping you wouldn't ask that.

Which neatly encapsulate the right on so much. Simple answers for extremely simple folk.

Since brexit the UK does NOT have any agreement with any EU country to accept returning migrants - hence the idea of deporting them to Rwanda

This is the reason so many are stuck here. 21 returned in 2022, I believe.

Once Brexit was brought in it was open season

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