| Not the first thread on this 18:42 - May 28 with 3591 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
But now it’s officially really curious what it means for Hirst. Praying we can get him. |  | | |  |
| Not the first thread on this on 18:46 - May 28 with 3129 views | Juggsy |
I’m sure we have plenty of options. He’s a good fit but I’m sure the others on our list will be similarly equipped to compliment KM’s system. |  | | |
| Not the first thread on this on 18:50 - May 28 with 3089 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Not the first thread on this on 18:46 - May 28 by Juggsy |
I’m sure we have plenty of options. He’s a good fit but I’m sure the others on our list will be similarly equipped to compliment KM’s system. |
I think he’s class, really want him in a town shirt next year. | | | |
| Not the first thread on this on 19:53 - May 28 with 2994 views | FrimleyBlue |
Is it forgotten that he ended up at town because he didn't step up to the championship....
If he signs, fine, but with our resources, I wouldn't be to suprised if we don't actually go for him now we've made the championship.
IMO we'll be looking for someone similar to Broadhead, Clarke etc who in future could hold their own in the prem. |  |
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| Not the first thread on this on 19:54 - May 28 with 2992 views | PhilTWTD |
| Not the first thread on this on 19:53 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Is it forgotten that he ended up at town because he didn't step up to the championship....
If he signs, fine, but with our resources, I wouldn't be to suprised if we don't actually go for him now we've made the championship.
IMO we'll be looking for someone similar to Broadhead, Clarke etc who in future could hold their own in the prem. |
Wasn't so much he didn't step up as he didn't get a chance. He made two league starts at Blackburn, who made a strong start to the season, if I remember rightly. |  | | |
| Not the first thread on this on 20:01 - May 28 with 2964 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Not the first thread on this on 19:54 - May 28 by PhilTWTD |
Wasn't so much he didn't step up as he didn't get a chance. He made two league starts at Blackburn, who made a strong start to the season, if I remember rightly. |
Got to get yourself those chances though Phil, and I think he's had a total of 40 championship appearences across two spells with 0 goals.
I'm not against signing him, at the end of the day he suits our style and he's had a great few months with us, but I wouldn't say he should be a top top priority which has had people desperate for leicester to stay up to aid our chances of getting him.
However, on the positive side of all of this.. his wages are now 50% less so there's room for negotiation.
It's difficult to predict which way KM and the recruitment team are going to go, but i'd still wouldn't' be surprised to see Dane Scarlett coming in, so maybe Hirst, Scarlett and perhaps 1 more experienced striker with freddie joining derby. [Post edited 28 May 2023 20:04]
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| Not the first thread on this on 20:17 - May 28 with 2897 views | ParisBlue |
| Not the first thread on this on 19:54 - May 28 by PhilTWTD |
Wasn't so much he didn't step up as he didn't get a chance. He made two league starts at Blackburn, who made a strong start to the season, if I remember rightly. |
Strikes me as a player who needs to play every week to maintain his form and sharpness. Took him a while to get going here but once he did he looked class. |  |
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| Not the first thread on this on 21:05 - May 28 with 2814 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Not the first thread on this on 19:53 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Is it forgotten that he ended up at town because he didn't step up to the championship....
If he signs, fine, but with our resources, I wouldn't be to suprised if we don't actually go for him now we've made the championship.
IMO we'll be looking for someone similar to Broadhead, Clarke etc who in future could hold their own in the prem. |
Didn’t have a run in the side for Blackburn and took him a month of games to get in form here. | | | |
| Not the first thread on this on 21:18 - May 28 with 2752 views | GavTWTD |
| Not the first thread on this on 20:01 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Got to get yourself those chances though Phil, and I think he's had a total of 40 championship appearences across two spells with 0 goals.
I'm not against signing him, at the end of the day he suits our style and he's had a great few months with us, but I wouldn't say he should be a top top priority which has had people desperate for leicester to stay up to aid our chances of getting him.
However, on the positive side of all of this.. his wages are now 50% less so there's room for negotiation.
It's difficult to predict which way KM and the recruitment team are going to go, but i'd still wouldn't' be surprised to see Dane Scarlett coming in, so maybe Hirst, Scarlett and perhaps 1 more experienced striker with freddie joining derby. [Post edited 28 May 2023 20:04]
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How do you know his wages have halved? The majority may have no such clause i would suggest. I thought that was the point of the parachute payments. |  |
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| Not the first thread on this on 21:22 - May 28 with 2723 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Not the first thread on this on 21:18 - May 28 by GavTWTD |
How do you know his wages have halved? The majority may have no such clause i would suggest. I thought that was the point of the parachute payments. |
'd read someones post on here that they were facing a 50% wage reduction upon relegation....
"It was reported yesterday by various news outlets that they had pre tax losses of £94m and the players will get a 50% cut in wages should they go down."
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| Not the first thread on this on 21:35 - May 28 with 2676 views | Guthrum |
| Not the first thread on this on 20:01 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Got to get yourself those chances though Phil, and I think he's had a total of 40 championship appearences across two spells with 0 goals.
I'm not against signing him, at the end of the day he suits our style and he's had a great few months with us, but I wouldn't say he should be a top top priority which has had people desperate for leicester to stay up to aid our chances of getting him.
However, on the positive side of all of this.. his wages are now 50% less so there's room for negotiation.
It's difficult to predict which way KM and the recruitment team are going to go, but i'd still wouldn't' be surprised to see Dane Scarlett coming in, so maybe Hirst, Scarlett and perhaps 1 more experienced striker with freddie joining derby. [Post edited 28 May 2023 20:04]
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Tho most of the Championship appearances for Rotherham were as a late sub. The team were struggling that season (ending in relegation), also he was much younger, only turning 22 in the February and was competing with the more established figures of Michael Smith and one Freddie Ladapo (plus Kyle Vassell until he went out on loan in January).
A bit harsh to judge his possible Championship future on that. Indeed, it could be said he did well to get on the pitch so often. |  |
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| Not the first thread on this on 08:33 - May 29 with 2456 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Not the first thread on this on 21:22 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
'd read someones post on here that they were facing a 50% wage reduction upon relegation....
"It was reported yesterday by various news outlets that they had pre tax losses of £94m and the players will get a 50% cut in wages should they go down."
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This is why you're wrong on such a regular basis. Your 'facts' are something you just read on here or twitter (or you dreamt up).
We know why you're really not keen on Hirst - because you got egg on your face (again) after saying you didn't see the point of his signing. [Post edited 29 May 2023 8:38]
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| Not the first thread on this on 08:36 - May 29 with 2447 views | RobTheMonk |
Did the job for us and started to really look a good fit for our system towards the end of the season. |  | | |
| Not the first thread on this on 09:33 - May 29 with 2347 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Not the first thread on this on 08:33 - May 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
This is why you're wrong on such a regular basis. Your 'facts' are something you just read on here or twitter (or you dreamt up).
We know why you're really not keen on Hirst - because you got egg on your face (again) after saying you didn't see the point of his signing. [Post edited 29 May 2023 8:38]
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I'm fine if we sign him. I've made that very clear in this thread. I just don't see him as a top top priority. I think that's allowed Flash.
And again at the time it I didn't see the point of his loan.
Time passed. His loan helped us get promotion. Brilliant | |
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| Not the first thread on this on 10:14 - May 29 with 2280 views | BlueBadger |
| Not the first thread on this on 19:53 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Is it forgotten that he ended up at town because he didn't step up to the championship....
If he signs, fine, but with our resources, I wouldn't be to suprised if we don't actually go for him now we've made the championship.
IMO we'll be looking for someone similar to Broadhead, Clarke etc who in future could hold their own in the prem. |
An ill-informed Frimmers hot take? Surely not! |  |
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| Not the first thread on this on 10:15 - May 29 with 2277 views | BlueBadger |
| Not the first thread on this on 19:54 - May 28 by PhilTWTD |
Wasn't so much he didn't step up as he didn't get a chance. He made two league starts at Blackburn, who made a strong start to the season, if I remember rightly. |
Let's not bring facts into this now. | |
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| Not the first thread on this on 10:20 - May 29 with 2238 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Not the first thread on this on 10:14 - May 29 by BlueBadger |
An ill-informed Frimmers hot take? Surely not! |
Not really my hot take BB, just going by what i read on here
"It was reported yesterday by various news outlets that they had pre tax losses of £94m and the players will get a 50% cut in wages should they go down." | |
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| Not the first thread on this on 10:38 - May 29 with 2173 views | J2BLUE |
| Not the first thread on this on 19:53 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Is it forgotten that he ended up at town because he didn't step up to the championship....
If he signs, fine, but with our resources, I wouldn't be to suprised if we don't actually go for him now we've made the championship.
IMO we'll be looking for someone similar to Broadhead, Clarke etc who in future could hold their own in the prem. |
I really don't know how people don't get it by now...
Certain players suit certain teams and styles. We've chased him for ages and while he was here we saw why. McKenna saw enough in him to bring him in on loan. I have no doubt we would sign him in a heartbeat if we get the chance.
His experience at Blackburn has no real bearing on whether we go for him. |  |
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| Not the first thread on this on 11:01 - May 29 with 2119 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Not the first thread on this on 09:33 - May 29 by FrimleyBlue |
I'm fine if we sign him. I've made that very clear in this thread. I just don't see him as a top top priority. I think that's allowed Flash.
And again at the time it I didn't see the point of his loan.
Time passed. His loan helped us get promotion. Brilliant |
Yep, you're totally allowed your view, haven't said otherwise. Just giving my view as to why you're wrong, and J2 has offered additional that I was about to post myself. | |
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| Not the first thread on this on 11:14 - May 29 with 2062 views | berkstractorboy |
| Not the first thread on this on 10:38 - May 29 by J2BLUE |
I really don't know how people don't get it by now...
Certain players suit certain teams and styles. We've chased him for ages and while he was here we saw why. McKenna saw enough in him to bring him in on loan. I have no doubt we would sign him in a heartbeat if we get the chance.
His experience at Blackburn has no real bearing on whether we go for him. |
I present Joe Pigott m'lord. |  | | |
| Not the first thread on this on 11:18 - May 29 with 2033 views | fallyblue |
| Not the first thread on this on 18:50 - May 28 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I think he’s class, really want him in a town shirt next year. |
I think he will be even better with a full pre season, remember him had not played too much prior to getting here, and improved every game | | | |
| Not the first thread on this on 11:57 - May 29 with 1979 views | billlm |
| Not the first thread on this on 19:53 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Is it forgotten that he ended up at town because he didn't step up to the championship....
If he signs, fine, but with our resources, I wouldn't be to suprised if we don't actually go for him now we've made the championship.
IMO we'll be looking for someone similar to Broadhead, Clarke etc who in future could hold their own in the prem. |
I get where your coming from
He scored some very important goals for us at important times,
I'm on a fence atm,
The way I see it is if you look at all his loan clubs us and Pompey especially he didn't really set it a light early doors at all,now the why,
He obviously takes time to settle bed in he's done that here part of the furniture now, that's a reason to sign him,both clubs he's scored once settled,
He fluffs his lines sometimes but such a hard worker,
He needs to be slightly more prolific Chaplin isn't going to score as many next season,
Strikers as a position much more than any other is all about confidence, he grew into that,
I'm not writing him off,
He probably deserves a chance in an upward settled team,
I think we will go for him, |  | | |
| Not the first thread on this on 12:20 - May 29 with 1936 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Not the first thread on this on 11:01 - May 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Yep, you're totally allowed your view, haven't said otherwise. Just giving my view as to why you're wrong, and J2 has offered additional that I was about to post myself. |
Unfortuntely you didn't.
J2 has responded correctly and provided a counter, you've stuck to your previous method of just being personal without providing any counter point at all to discuss. | |
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| Not the first thread on this on 12:23 - May 29 with 1901 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Not the first thread on this on 10:38 - May 29 by J2BLUE |
I really don't know how people don't get it by now...
Certain players suit certain teams and styles. We've chased him for ages and while he was here we saw why. McKenna saw enough in him to bring him in on loan. I have no doubt we would sign him in a heartbeat if we get the chance.
His experience at Blackburn has no real bearing on whether we go for him. |
I agree to a point hence why I said id be fine for him signing and I do think he will sign still, however KM'S thoughts may well have changed for all we know, so even if he didn't sign, I wouldn't be suprised as we have a bigger Market to shop in now imo.
BUT my actual point was more of the way some made it seem like the priority signing, which imo it's not, that's all. [Post edited 29 May 2023 12:26]
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| Not the first thread on this on 12:27 - May 29 with 1872 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Not the first thread on this on 12:23 - May 29 by FrimleyBlue |
I agree to a point hence why I said id be fine for him signing and I do think he will sign still, however KM'S thoughts may well have changed for all we know, so even if he didn't sign, I wouldn't be suprised as we have a bigger Market to shop in now imo.
BUT my actual point was more of the way some made it seem like the priority signing, which imo it's not, that's all. [Post edited 29 May 2023 12:26]
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Do you think we need more than Ladapo and Pigott for that role?
Would a player we had on loan and performed the role very well be preferable to someone who hasn't actually played in the team before?
If your answers are yes to both of those, does that not make him a priority? Of course we will have alternatives to pursue should it not be possible. I would imagine we will have made enquiries about a couple of other options at least. |  |
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| Not the first thread on this on 12:40 - May 29 with 1824 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Not the first thread on this on 12:27 - May 29 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Do you think we need more than Ladapo and Pigott for that role?
Would a player we had on loan and performed the role very well be preferable to someone who hasn't actually played in the team before?
If your answers are yes to both of those, does that not make him a priority? Of course we will have alternatives to pursue should it not be possible. I would imagine we will have made enquiries about a couple of other options at least. |
We need a new striker maybe 2 yes,
whilst having someone in who knows the role well is good, with it being a summer window, it's not imo that important as who ever comes in has time to get upto speed anyway. | |
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