| 8 points clear of 3rd 18:56 - Oct 7 with 4332 views | tractorboy1978 |
With only 6 points between 5th and 17th! Lots of very even teams with nobody building up a real head of steam.
We’ve set off at a ridiculous pace and it’s going to take a truly unfathomable drop off for us to drop outside the top 6 from here. And I’m honestly starting to think we are going to be serious automatic contenders now. We are too well coached and score too many goals to really drop away. How do you beat a team that can score 3/4 with relative ease? |  | | |  |
| 8 points clear of 3rd on 19:00 - Oct 7 with 4284 views | ITFCSG |
You can if you have 3 or 4 Prem quality forwards like Leeds, probables is I don’t think any side in the Championship possess such forward quality at the moment. | | | |
| 8 points clear of 3rd on 21:23 - Oct 7 with 4081 views | ArnieM |
OP: whilst agree with you , I keep thinking about how SWFC cocked it up from a commanding lead last season. It’s possible.
Playing teams a second time round , with a potential coinciding drop in our intensity ability over 100 mins per game might be just 2 factors that thwart our current outstanding / awesome form. It’ll be interesting to see what opponents do against us after Christmas in that return match. I’m almost expecting a much more cynical approach by a lot of teams tbh. |  |
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| 8 points clear of 3rd on 21:32 - Oct 7 with 4043 views | FrimleyBlue |
| 8 points clear of 3rd on 21:23 - Oct 7 by ArnieM |
OP: whilst agree with you , I keep thinking about how SWFC cocked it up from a commanding lead last season. It’s possible.
Playing teams a second time round , with a potential coinciding drop in our intensity ability over 100 mins per game might be just 2 factors that thwart our current outstanding / awesome form. It’ll be interesting to see what opponents do against us after Christmas in that return match. I’m almost expecting a much more cynical approach by a lot of teams tbh. |
For me. We've got cover in most positions.
But if we lose morsy.. imo this is the problem we could have
It was only one game....but we don't have another morsy as shown in that huddersfield game. It's not about the result.. but we just don't have that cm who can drop. Hold and spray the ball round and keep it like morsy.
Tayls for me is more of a luongo.
Jan we need to find a morsy. |  |
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| 8 points clear of 3rd on 21:34 - Oct 7 with 4029 views | FrimleyBlue |
Got to worry about winter pitches apparently....
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| 8 points clear of 3rd on 21:38 - Oct 7 with 4016 views | USA |
Middlesborough are building a head of steam! | |
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| 8 points clear of 3rd on 21:40 - Oct 7 with 3988 views | FrimleyBlue |
| 8 points clear of 3rd on 21:38 - Oct 7 by USA |
Middlesborough are building a head of steam! |
That's fine. We need some of these sides who had bad starts to begin winning some games. Like they did at Sunderland. It helped grow our gap. | |
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| 8 points clear of 3rd on 22:04 - Oct 7 with 3953 views | tractorboy1978 |
| 8 points clear of 3rd on 21:38 - Oct 7 by USA |
Middlesborough are building a head of steam! |
I’ll give you that but we are already 14 points ahead of them! Which is just silly at this stage. | | | |
| 8 points clear of 3rd on 22:27 - Oct 7 with 3876 views | Dubtractor |
That lots of even teams point is a really important one. #
Everyone beats everyone in this division, and there isn't much to choose between most of the teams, so you end up with a lot of the table bunched together scrapping for the play off places. Even 11 games in there is only 3 points between 3rd and 10th. So we're going to be top 2 for a while yet, even if our form collapses, which it clearly won't (albeit unlikely to maintain the current amazing form).
Just being average for the rest of the season (1.34 ppg) would get us to 75 points and almost guaranteed play offs. |  |
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| 8 points clear of 3rd on 22:29 - Oct 7 with 3867 views | whymark4lazio0 |
| 8 points clear of 3rd on 21:32 - Oct 7 by FrimleyBlue |
For me. We've got cover in most positions.
But if we lose morsy.. imo this is the problem we could have
It was only one game....but we don't have another morsy as shown in that huddersfield game. It's not about the result.. but we just don't have that cm who can drop. Hold and spray the ball round and keep it like morsy.
Tayls for me is more of a luongo.
Jan we need to find a morsy. |
I think if Morsy is not available, Luongo (similar attributes-footballing and physical) is his best cover and Taylor can cover Luongo who tends to play a bit more forward. | |
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| 8 points clear of 3rd on 22:44 - Oct 7 with 3802 views | Simonds92 |
| 8 points clear of 3rd on 21:23 - Oct 7 by ArnieM |
OP: whilst agree with you , I keep thinking about how SWFC cocked it up from a commanding lead last season. It’s possible.
Playing teams a second time round , with a potential coinciding drop in our intensity ability over 100 mins per game might be just 2 factors that thwart our current outstanding / awesome form. It’ll be interesting to see what opponents do against us after Christmas in that return match. I’m almost expecting a much more cynical approach by a lot of teams tbh. |
That comparison to Wednesday isnt a good one though. They were getting away with sh**housing teams with slightly better players than most of L1. We are an extremely well coached and cohesive team.
If you want to use the comparison of Wednesday though, if we hit their 96 points this season we'll be top 2 this season, no doubts. | | | |
| 8 points clear of 3rd on 22:50 - Oct 7 with 3738 views | FrimleyBlue |
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| 8 points clear of 3rd on 23:23 - Oct 7 with 3628 views | Guthrum |
Points-wise, Norwich in 7th are closer to QPR in 21st than they are to us in 2nd. |  |
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| 8 points clear of 3rd on 23:34 - Oct 7 with 3589 views | NthQldITFC |
| 8 points clear of 3rd on 22:29 - Oct 7 by whymark4lazio0 |
I think if Morsy is not available, Luongo (similar attributes-footballing and physical) is his best cover and Taylor can cover Luongo who tends to play a bit more forward. |
I very much agree with that. Luongo can be Morsy (more or less) and Taylor can be a different fish altogether.
The alternative is to have two CMs dropping deep (probably Luongo and Humphreys) with Taylor in a hybrid 8/10 role and and a narrower two instead of three behind the striker. With our full backs, you've still got width.
The two CMs plus Woolf/Burgess give four players available for the enticing short ball out, rather than three and a half (Morsy is worth one and a half!)
I quite like that idea, but would be happy with Luongo in the Morsy role too. |  |
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| 8 points clear of 3rd on 09:01 - Oct 8 with 3262 views | tractorboy1978 |
| 8 points clear of 3rd on 22:27 - Oct 7 by Dubtractor |
That lots of even teams point is a really important one. #
Everyone beats everyone in this division, and there isn't much to choose between most of the teams, so you end up with a lot of the table bunched together scrapping for the play off places. Even 11 games in there is only 3 points between 3rd and 10th. So we're going to be top 2 for a while yet, even if our form collapses, which it clearly won't (albeit unlikely to maintain the current amazing form).
Just being average for the rest of the season (1.34 ppg) would get us to 75 points and almost guaranteed play offs. |
Yeah, just can't see us falling off to the extent we aren't in the top 2 in 10 games time if I am being totally honest!
You'd have to assume a team that has won 22 of their last 26 league games, only lost 6 of their last 57 league games and scored 70 in their last 26 league games is suddenly going to go on the sort of run where they fail to win in 5 games. Not going to happen. [Post edited 8 Oct 2023 9:05]
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| 8 points clear of 3rd on 10:56 - Oct 8 with 3139 views | gainsboroughblue |
| 8 points clear of 3rd on 21:34 - Oct 7 by FrimleyBlue |
Got to worry about winter pitches apparently....
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Some typically lazy comments there. People just thinking we're on some crazy run of form rather than a good side who will win far more than they lose.
People have been saying we will drop off in form since March. |  |
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| 8 points clear of 3rd on 11:22 - Oct 8 with 3088 views | SomethingBlue |
I think the measure of us will come through how we react to a couple of consecutive bad results – which will happen, and maybe quite soon. It's hard to see us not sustaining a good play-off challenge as a minimum but we've all seen pretty much everything in this league so not much comes as a surprise, except perhaps our exceptional current form. Hopefully we can keep ticking the wins off now to make our job a little easier later on. | |
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| 8 points clear of 3rd on 11:44 - Oct 8 with 3043 views | Darth_Koont |
This will have a massive negative effect on many of our chasers and especially the big parachute clubs that must have hoped to bounce back into the Prem after a triumphant and dominant campaign.
But now the automatics will feel ridiculously far away which should severely dent the mood and confidence. They’re now in the position where it seems that the lottery of the play-offs is becoming their only likely route forward. Clubs, managers, players and especially fans must be worried by that and time and time again you see that turned on their own team.
Of course it isn’t over as it’s still way, way too early. But it’ll feel like it, especially as there are few signs that us or Leicester are in a false or undeserved position. |  |
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| 8 points clear of 3rd on 15:05 - Oct 8 with 2870 views | tractorboy1978 |
| 8 points clear of 3rd on 11:44 - Oct 8 by Darth_Koont |
This will have a massive negative effect on many of our chasers and especially the big parachute clubs that must have hoped to bounce back into the Prem after a triumphant and dominant campaign.
But now the automatics will feel ridiculously far away which should severely dent the mood and confidence. They’re now in the position where it seems that the lottery of the play-offs is becoming their only likely route forward. Clubs, managers, players and especially fans must be worried by that and time and time again you see that turned on their own team.
Of course it isn’t over as it’s still way, way too early. But it’ll feel like it, especially as there are few signs that us or Leicester are in a false or undeserved position. |
Re your second paragraph. I remember saying that when we drew 2-2 at Cambridge in 2021/22 and getting pelters on here. We were 12 points off the top 2 after 12 games and it just felt completely unassailable despite us having arguably the best squad in the division. It is so hard to make up that sort of ground on sides that are in the habit of winning games. McKenna was fantastic when he came in but he couldn't overhaul a 9 point deficit to make the play offs. It is so tough.
Even look at us last season, we had to win 13 and draw 2 of our last 15 games with a Sheff Wed 'blip' to just about overcome an 8 point deficit as of 15th Feb 2023. | | | |
| 8 points clear of 3rd on 16:08 - Oct 8 with 2773 views | Vegtablue |
| 8 points clear of 3rd on 15:05 - Oct 8 by tractorboy1978 |
Re your second paragraph. I remember saying that when we drew 2-2 at Cambridge in 2021/22 and getting pelters on here. We were 12 points off the top 2 after 12 games and it just felt completely unassailable despite us having arguably the best squad in the division. It is so hard to make up that sort of ground on sides that are in the habit of winning games. McKenna was fantastic when he came in but he couldn't overhaul a 9 point deficit to make the play offs. It is so tough.
Even look at us last season, we had to win 13 and draw 2 of our last 15 games with a Sheff Wed 'blip' to just about overcome an 8 point deficit as of 15th Feb 2023. |
I think we're over-egging any psychological victories at this stage tbh guys. As you say, we showed last February that momentum can be built without external encouragement or advance warning. Top two looked beyond us after the Bristol Rovers draw and we only clawed back ground on Wednesday after win #5, but we found our own momentum outwith what was happening around us. What we achieved wasn't normal, granted, but it is normal for teams to find their best form irrespective of gaps in the table or how their rivals are doing in that moment. [Post edited 8 Oct 2023 16:13]
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