| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group 09:22 - Nov 14 with 22448 views | unbelievablue |
Should he have? |  |
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:24 - Nov 14 with 10243 views | BlueBadger |
Congratulations on your forthcoming ten-pager and commiserations for its forthcoming deletion. [Post edited 14 Nov 2023 9:24]
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:25 - Nov 14 with 10202 views | ElderGrizzly |
Parts of the Labour party are still trying to push/nudge Starmer to back a line no other world leader appears to be taking too.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/14/starmer-under-pressure-to-back-
And to answer your question, yes Hamas is a terror group. It's not even an argument. They fit every global definition of a terror group. Walk like a duck, sounds like a duck etc [Post edited 14 Nov 2023 9:26]
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:28 - Nov 14 with 10152 views | unbelievablue |
| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:25 - Nov 14 by ElderGrizzly |
Parts of the Labour party are still trying to push/nudge Starmer to back a line no other world leader appears to be taking too.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/14/starmer-under-pressure-to-back-
And to answer your question, yes Hamas is a terror group. It's not even an argument. They fit every global definition of a terror group. Walk like a duck, sounds like a duck etc [Post edited 14 Nov 2023 9:26]
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Just to clarify, my question was whether Corbyn should call them a terror group.
Not whether I think they are. Which I do. | |
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:28 - Nov 14 with 10152 views | DanTheMan |
Yes.
McCluskey didn't seem to have any issues with doing so. |  |
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:29 - Nov 14 with 10144 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
“The right wing press assassinated him”
…nope they handed him a gun, and he shot himself in the head. |  | | |
| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:29 - Nov 14 with 10134 views | lowhouseblue |
i think his preferred term is 'friends'. [Post edited 14 Nov 2023 9:34]
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:30 - Nov 14 with 10111 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:28 - Nov 14 by unbelievablue |
Just to clarify, my question was whether Corbyn should call them a terror group.
Not whether I think they are. Which I do. |
Sorry, yes Corbyn should unless he knows something the rest of the world doesn't | | | |
| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:32 - Nov 14 with 10083 views | bluelagos |
Yep.
Can't see what he's thinking to be honest. Sending a load of armed guys to murder civilians is a long long way from a justified act of resistance. |  |
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:34 - Nov 14 with 10047 views | JakeITFC |
Obviously he should, but can kind of understand his reluctance to go down whichever stupid shouting match alley that Morgan wanted to take him down. |  | | |
| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:40 - Nov 14 with 9981 views | BloomBlue |
Yes he should, but its the same old Jeremy 'racist to the core' Corbyn.
He is loving this opportunity to defend Hamas
His hatred of the Jewish population will never change. |  | | |
| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:42 - Nov 14 with 9961 views | GlasgowBlue |
I counted 11 times he was asked and declined to answer. He also lied regarding the context of calling them friends.
We already know he doesn't consider them to be terrorists.
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:43 - Nov 14 with 9944 views | giant_stow |
Couldn't agree more with the tweeter. |  |
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:45 - Nov 14 with 9901 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:40 - Nov 14 by BloomBlue |
Yes he should, but its the same old Jeremy 'racist to the core' Corbyn.
He is loving this opportunity to defend Hamas
His hatred of the Jewish population will never change. |
I’m not sure why you would think someone who told members of a minority group they “don’t understand English irony” is a racist… | | | |
| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:47 - Nov 14 with 9878 views | Guthrum |
Yes. However, Corbyn is now an irrelevance* and Morgan just playing for "uppies".
* Even if one supported his policy aims, the man himself is a busted flush. |  |
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:54 - Nov 14 with 9797 views | unbelievablue |
| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:34 - Nov 14 by JakeITFC |
Obviously he should, but can kind of understand his reluctance to go down whichever stupid shouting match alley that Morgan wanted to take him down. |
Par for the course if you go on that show, seems completely pointless doing so. | |
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 10:24 - Nov 14 with 9612 views | ford6600 |
As with all politicians left or right, speaking plainly
and truthfully seems impossible. Corbyn knows if he
calls Hamas terrorists he will be vilified by his
supporters and lose credibility. Sir Keir who seems
to be a man frightened by his own shadow always
weighs up his answers to cause least damage to his
poll ratings. If all our MP's were replaced by a cross
section of the public at the next election, common
sense decisions on every subject would break out.. | | | |
| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 10:25 - Nov 14 with 9600 views | WeWereZombies |
Not sure whether you should have added this to Noggin's thread, Phil did request that we keep the Israel Defence Force/Hamas war to a single thread in the manner of EireannachGorm's Ukraine one. Anyway, on the subject of the criminality and futility of attacking civilians I found this somewhat heartbreaking, Morgan would have been better served for asking a comment from Corbyn on this rather than travelling over such well trodden ground:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/14/canadian-peace-activist-confirmed-dead
Edit: Corrected for typo [Post edited 14 Nov 2023 10:27]
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 10:27 - Nov 14 with 9565 views | unbelievablue |
| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 10:25 - Nov 14 by WeWereZombies |
Not sure whether you should have added this to Noggin's thread, Phil did request that we keep the Israel Defence Force/Hamas war to a single thread in the manner of EireannachGorm's Ukraine one. Anyway, on the subject of the criminality and futility of attacking civilians I found this somewhat heartbreaking, Morgan would have been better served for asking a comment from Corbyn on this rather than travelling over such well trodden ground:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/14/canadian-peace-activist-confirmed-dead
Edit: Corrected for typo [Post edited 14 Nov 2023 10:27]
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 10:31 - Nov 14 with 9523 views | WeWereZombies |
| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 10:27 - Nov 14 by unbelievablue |
Sorry - been away for a while. Happy for it to be slashed. |
No worries, wasn't looking for the thread to be removed. More of a reminder to others to try and keep the proliferation of threads down (there are others who have not been away who have started threads about the marches on Saturday for example.) Let's hope that any discussion on this thread remains cordial and develops meaningfully. | |
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 10:32 - Nov 14 with 9512 views | noggin |
Yes he should. |  |
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 10:33 - Nov 14 with 9516 views | Darth_Koont |
Him and the BBC.
Hamas isn’t like ISIS. It’s more like IRA/Sinn Fein with a terrorist militant wing but also a nominally political/ quasi-governmental role.
You can certainly condemn Hamas for its terrorism (and we all should) but the idea that they are nothing more than a death cult is a bit silly. |  |
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 10:34 - Nov 14 with 9478 views | LankHenners |
Bit of a stupid decision from him to go on there in the first place really. Surely he knew all Morgan would do would be to try and trip him up and get an argument out of it so he could crow about what a great interviewer he is. |  |
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 10:38 - Nov 14 with 9406 views | bluelagos |
| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 10:27 - Nov 14 by unbelievablue |
Sorry - been away for a while. Happy for it to be slashed. |
Next you'll be claiming you've been up mountains in the Lakes or something. | |
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 10:42 - Nov 14 with 9356 views | Darth_Koont |
| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 09:45 - Nov 14 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I’m not sure why you would think someone who told members of a minority group they “don’t understand English irony” is a racist… |
And yet so clearly not antisemitic in intent, just in manufactured outrage.
For those hard of thinking or actually reading about this incident, it’s a reference to a Palestinian’s use of English and how unfavourably that reflected on two specific hard-right racists and pro-Israel supporters who disrupted the meeting. Not against “British Jews” as certain disingenuous posters like to pretend.
Surprise, surprise there was no actual antisemitism complaint made or if there was then it was thrown out. That’s in Starmer’s supposed zero tolerance Labour Party. Or are people saying he and Labour are still not taking antisemitism seriously enough? | |
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| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 10:46 - Nov 14 with 9300 views | unbelievablue |
| Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group on 10:33 - Nov 14 by Darth_Koont |
Him and the BBC.
Hamas isn’t like ISIS. It’s more like IRA/Sinn Fein with a terrorist militant wing but also a nominally political/ quasi-governmental role.
You can certainly condemn Hamas for its terrorism (and we all should) but the idea that they are nothing more than a death cult is a bit silly. |
Any group with an active terror wing probably deserves the overall moniker mate. | |
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