| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage 10:11 - Dec 24 with 6235 views | Guthrum |
having all these tough games within about a month.
By 23rd Jan we will have played Leeds and Leicester twice, Southampton away, with the transfer window in progress. Still being in the top four at that point would be great*, in the top two outstanding. From there we can rampage through the remainder of the season like we did last time.
* It's mathematically imposible for us to be outside the top four in five games time, even if we lose them all. |  |
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| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 10:21 - Dec 24 with 4008 views | EastLondonBlue |
Positive thinking - I’m with you on that one. The defeats hurt but if offered this position at the start of the season we would have bitten the proverbial arm off. KMc is a meticulous planner and thinker and this defeat will help us reflect and strengthen going forward. COYB |  | | |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 10:22 - Dec 24 with 3999 views | Herbivore |
Add in that we've also travelled to Boro, West Brom, Sunderland, and Watford as well, in fact we'll have played Sunderland twice by then. We will have got a lot of our toughest fixtures out of the way and if we've still got a gap at that stage plus potentially a couple of new players through the door then I think we'll be in a strong position. Weirdly, I quite fancy us at Leicester if we don't shoot ourselves in the foot by giving away an early goal. |  |
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| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 10:27 - Dec 24 with 3973 views | BABLUE |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 10:22 - Dec 24 by Herbivore |
Add in that we've also travelled to Boro, West Brom, Sunderland, and Watford as well, in fact we'll have played Sunderland twice by then. We will have got a lot of our toughest fixtures out of the way and if we've still got a gap at that stage plus potentially a couple of new players through the door then I think we'll be in a strong position. Weirdly, I quite fancy us at Leicester if we don't shoot ourselves in the foot by giving away an early goal. |
At Leicester away I hope that we set up to be defensively solid with an extra holding midfielder and lose one of the three behind Hirst.
Davis to mainly defend rather than bomb forward too. |  | | |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 10:30 - Dec 24 with 3960 views | Guthrum |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 10:21 - Dec 24 by EastLondonBlue |
Positive thinking - I’m with you on that one. The defeats hurt but if offered this position at the start of the season we would have bitten the proverbial arm off. KMc is a meticulous planner and thinker and this defeat will help us reflect and strengthen going forward. COYB |
This season at least we're only losing to Leeds and West Brom, not the equivalents of Lincoln, Cambridge and Cheltenham. | |
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| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 10:37 - Dec 24 with 3911 views | Herbivore |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 10:27 - Dec 24 by BABLUE |
At Leicester away I hope that we set up to be defensively solid with an extra holding midfielder and lose one of the three behind Hirst.
Davis to mainly defend rather than bomb forward too. |
I hope we set up in the way that's enabled us to pick up 52 points from 23 games rather than dicking about and trying to play a system we're not used to playing. We need to execute better rather than changing the system. | |
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| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 10:37 - Dec 24 with 3921 views | CobboldCrusty |
Agree - and maybe this has already been said elsewhere but anyone got a funny feeling we're going to blow Leicester away at PR on Boxing Day? |  | | |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 10:58 - Dec 24 with 3828 views | Churchman |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 10:37 - Dec 24 by CobboldCrusty |
Agree - and maybe this has already been said elsewhere but anyone got a funny feeling we're going to blow Leicester away at PR on Boxing Day? |
No, I think we will struggle against Leicester. But I think the point about doing what we do (Plan A) better is spot on. Do that and let the opponents try and scratch together a Plan B.
The OP is interesting. We are playing a lot of the toughest fixtures now and that could well help us as the season progresses. We also have a plenty of points on the board! Let’s not go overboard about yesterday. |  | | |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 11:30 - Dec 24 with 3742 views | EdwardStone |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 10:30 - Dec 24 by Guthrum |
This season at least we're only losing to Leeds and West Brom, not the equivalents of Lincoln, Cambridge and Cheltenham. |
The defeats to those 3 clubs still rankles
Especially Cheltenham |  | | |
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| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 11:39 - Dec 24 with 3701 views | Ryorry |
Personally I just can't think like that. I still have the mindset that every game will be a challenge, that there are no such things as 'easy' games, teams are capable of turning a corner (look at SW until yesterday) and that we're clearly capable of having an off day.
At the same time, we've obviously shown that we're capable of beating "bigger", richer clubs quite unexpectedly.
It's still one game at a time for me. |  |
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| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 11:45 - Dec 24 with 3667 views | bazza |
this team is second because we play good Football.. 3 loses in 23 games.. and people Saying plan B and we’ve been found out, couple of additions and carry on with game plan A . McKenna knows best Not a fan in a swivel Chair sat at their PC. |  | | |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 11:53 - Dec 24 with 3605 views | strikalite |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 11:39 - Dec 24 by Ryorry |
Personally I just can't think like that. I still have the mindset that every game will be a challenge, that there are no such things as 'easy' games, teams are capable of turning a corner (look at SW until yesterday) and that we're clearly capable of having an off day.
At the same time, we've obviously shown that we're capable of beating "bigger", richer clubs quite unexpectedly.
It's still one game at a time for me. |
Yep just one game at a time, we know we can afford to lose a handful of games we must remember that, we're still in a great position, Leeds and Leicester were always going to be our toughest tests, as they are for most other sides in the League..
In KM we trust, especially within the transfer window, get some good business done there and we'll be ready for the second half of the season. |  | | |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 11:57 - Dec 24 with 3568 views | FrimleyBlue |
Would be disappointing to drop from 2nd to 4th after a 10 point gap tho.
All you'd have needed were draws against them. |  |
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| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 12:10 - Dec 24 with 3502 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 10:37 - Dec 24 by Herbivore |
I hope we set up in the way that's enabled us to pick up 52 points from 23 games rather than dicking about and trying to play a system we're not used to playing. We need to execute better rather than changing the system. |
We did that yesterday. Got ripped apart and lost 4-0
Just because it's done us well against other sides, Doesn't mean you do it against effectively premiership sides. Esp when leeds tore us a new one in the home game when we gifted them the same space opportunities. | |
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| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 12:15 - Dec 24 with 3486 views | Herbivore |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 12:10 - Dec 24 by FrimleyBlue |
We did that yesterday. Got ripped apart and lost 4-0
Just because it's done us well against other sides, Doesn't mean you do it against effectively premiership sides. Esp when leeds tore us a new one in the home game when we gifted them the same space opportunities. |
It served us well when we went to St Mary's and won, when we went to Watford and won, and so on. The game at PR we dominated for 70 plus minutes, they had a 9 minute spell where they scored three but that was down to poor defending, not getting caught on the break as happened yesterday. Making out like yesterday was in any way typical and warrants a complete change of approach is silly. | |
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| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 12:17 - Dec 24 with 3490 views | _clive_baker_ |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 12:10 - Dec 24 by FrimleyBlue |
We did that yesterday. Got ripped apart and lost 4-0
Just because it's done us well against other sides, Doesn't mean you do it against effectively premiership sides. Esp when leeds tore us a new one in the home game when we gifted them the same space opportunities. |
Very easy to say it after the event though. Had we taken that approach at Boro, Southampton, Sunderland, Watford etc it probably doesn’t yield us 12 points. Draws get you nowhere fast, it was quite evident at Watford we were happy to risk losing to get the win, we rolled the dice and played our game and it paid off. Sometimes it won’t. A more pragmatic approach is highly unlikely to have yielded the points we have so far this season.
As I say it’s very easy to be wise after the event when we’ve lost a game. I didn’t see too many people complaining about how expansive we are when we win games. |  | | |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 12:22 - Dec 24 with 3462 views | Guthrum |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 11:57 - Dec 24 by FrimleyBlue |
Would be disappointing to drop from 2nd to 4th after a 10 point gap tho.
All you'd have needed were draws against them. |
Of course it would be preferable never to lose, but the chances of that are vanishingly small over the season. Especially against other top teams in the dvision.
In any case, we actually beat Southmpton.
Really, we're back in a similar situation to a fortnight ago. Our rivals have already shown the ability to drop points unexpectedly, that will happen again. We can capitalise, even if they've just abou caught up in the meantime. | |
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| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 12:30 - Dec 24 with 3421 views | Herbivore |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 12:17 - Dec 24 by _clive_baker_ |
Very easy to say it after the event though. Had we taken that approach at Boro, Southampton, Sunderland, Watford etc it probably doesn’t yield us 12 points. Draws get you nowhere fast, it was quite evident at Watford we were happy to risk losing to get the win, we rolled the dice and played our game and it paid off. Sometimes it won’t. A more pragmatic approach is highly unlikely to have yielded the points we have so far this season.
As I say it’s very easy to be wise after the event when we’ve lost a game. I didn’t see too many people complaining about how expansive we are when we win games. |
The modern fan seems to expect us to win every single game and play perfectly at all times, including knowing exactly which tactical approach is best suited and being able to switch seamlessly between massively different styles of play to ensure that we win every single game (without conceding, that's also unacceptable). The modern football fan is also a berk. | |
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| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 12:58 - Dec 24 with 3348 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 12:15 - Dec 24 by Herbivore |
It served us well when we went to St Mary's and won, when we went to Watford and won, and so on. The game at PR we dominated for 70 plus minutes, they had a 9 minute spell where they scored three but that was down to poor defending, not getting caught on the break as happened yesterday. Making out like yesterday was in any way typical and warrants a complete change of approach is silly. |
We didn't play the same way against Southampton. Far from it. That's been my point since yesterday.
We've been quite cautious yet maintained our football in past away games. Yesterday we were just stupid. We went all gungho.
And my point about the Leeds home game is we got to excited after we scored and left ridiculous gaps. Hence they used it incredibly well.. we didn't learn from this is.
It's not the end of the world far from it. But people saying we couldn't have played a different way are forgetting we won away games 0-1 just by being cautious whilst still playing football the way we like to. | |
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| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 13:00 - Dec 24 with 3338 views | ITFCSG |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 12:22 - Dec 24 by Guthrum |
Of course it would be preferable never to lose, but the chances of that are vanishingly small over the season. Especially against other top teams in the dvision.
In any case, we actually beat Southmpton.
Really, we're back in a similar situation to a fortnight ago. Our rivals have already shown the ability to drop points unexpectedly, that will happen again. We can capitalise, even if they've just abou caught up in the meantime. |
We were lucky to play Southampton when they were on a losing streak including being thrashed by Sunderland. Since then they haven’t lost a single match.
I am sure if we were to play them today at St. Mary’s using the same kamikaze approach the result would be the same as last night.
And by the way, I felt the Soton game was much tighter than yesterday’s. No way was Leif playing in such an advanced role |  | | |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 15:14 - Dec 24 with 3120 views | tractordownsouth |
January is a good time to go to Leicester. They’re seriously weakened by AFCON and Asia Cup with Ndidi, Daka, Iheanacho, Fatwau and Souttar possibly all going.
It’ll still be a mammoth task to get a result but slightly less daunting. |  |
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| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 15:30 - Dec 24 with 3068 views | Dennyx4 |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 13:00 - Dec 24 by ITFCSG |
We were lucky to play Southampton when they were on a losing streak including being thrashed by Sunderland. Since then they haven’t lost a single match.
I am sure if we were to play them today at St. Mary’s using the same kamikaze approach the result would be the same as last night.
And by the way, I felt the Soton game was much tighter than yesterday’s. No way was Leif playing in such an advanced role |
Williams played at left back at St Mary’s |  | | |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 15:34 - Dec 24 with 3056 views | Dennyx4 |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 12:17 - Dec 24 by _clive_baker_ |
Very easy to say it after the event though. Had we taken that approach at Boro, Southampton, Sunderland, Watford etc it probably doesn’t yield us 12 points. Draws get you nowhere fast, it was quite evident at Watford we were happy to risk losing to get the win, we rolled the dice and played our game and it paid off. Sometimes it won’t. A more pragmatic approach is highly unlikely to have yielded the points we have so far this season.
As I say it’s very easy to be wise after the event when we’ve lost a game. I didn’t see too many people complaining about how expansive we are when we win games. |
A very good point, wins make the difference and is so much better to watch (apart from yesterday) | | | |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 15:46 - Dec 24 with 3006 views | Garv |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 11:57 - Dec 24 by FrimleyBlue |
Would be disappointing to drop from 2nd to 4th after a 10 point gap tho.
All you'd have needed were draws against them. |
10 points isn't a lot over a month or two really. |  |
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| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 16:52 - Dec 24 with 2847 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 15:46 - Dec 24 by Garv |
10 points isn't a lot over a month or two really. |
It should be when you've only dropped 1 point in 3 months so far.. it would mean we go on an awful run of results to drop.
End of season. I'll put my summer expectation head back on and be happy with anything higher than midtable being a bonus
But until then. We've got a chance of promotion. Sit 2nd and Leeds can't hurt us again unless we ourselves mess the opportunity up. | |
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| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 17:01 - Dec 24 with 2828 views | blueislander |
| I'm thinking it's actually an advantage on 12:58 - Dec 24 by FrimleyBlue |
We didn't play the same way against Southampton. Far from it. That's been my point since yesterday.
We've been quite cautious yet maintained our football in past away games. Yesterday we were just stupid. We went all gungho.
And my point about the Leeds home game is we got to excited after we scored and left ridiculous gaps. Hence they used it incredibly well.. we didn't learn from this is.
It's not the end of the world far from it. But people saying we couldn't have played a different way are forgetting we won away games 0-1 just by being cautious whilst still playing football the way we like to. |
In the home game Leeds had a brilliant spell for about 20 minutes. For the rest of the game we matched them. | | | |
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