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PSR for next season 16:05 - May 29 with 4223 viewsportmanking

I've just seen this image:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOwRxwKWkAA5ILU?format=jpg&name=900x900

If those calculations are correct, does that mean we're only allowed to make a 20m loss in 2024/25?!
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PSR for next season on 16:09 - May 29 with 4077 viewsJakeITFC

Roughly yes (and think that was Forest's point in appealing, that promoted sides are unfairly hamstrung in the PSR calcs) but alongside that whilst our cost base will increase massively, so will our revenue and so we still probably have a clear £100m or something to spend.

The difficulty of course would be what our PSR allowance would be next year if we go down, and so that might curtail some of our spending.
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PSR for next season on 16:11 - May 29 with 4022 viewslongtimefan

Why does it show Luton instead of Southampton?
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PSR for next season on 16:15 - May 29 with 3930 viewsTangledupin_Blue

PSR for next season on 16:11 - May 29 by longtimefan

Why does it show Luton instead of Southampton?


And why doesn't it show Leeds?



...oh, hang on...

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PSR for next season on 16:16 - May 29 with 3892 viewsportmanking

PSR for next season on 16:09 - May 29 by JakeITFC

Roughly yes (and think that was Forest's point in appealing, that promoted sides are unfairly hamstrung in the PSR calcs) but alongside that whilst our cost base will increase massively, so will our revenue and so we still probably have a clear £100m or something to spend.

The difficulty of course would be what our PSR allowance would be next year if we go down, and so that might curtail some of our spending.


Cost base will rise due to player wages, doesn't sound like backroom staff will need to expand too much, according to Ashton.

Hopefully we're setting a sustainable wage benchmark for the coming season at least.

What revenue did we turn over last season without TV money?
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PSR for next season on 16:21 - May 29 with 3781 viewsSmithersJones

Not sure where our “PSR Allowed” figure of £39m comes from. You’re allowed £35m for each season in the Prem and £13m in the Champ. I can never quite work out how League 1 is calculated (I think it’s related to income) but even if it were zero we’d be on £48m.
The only thing I can think of is they’ve just taken the £13m pa in the Champ and multiplied it by three, which seems like a pretty basic error.
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PSR for next season on 16:28 - May 29 with 3625 viewsParsley

PSR for next season on 16:21 - May 29 by SmithersJones

Not sure where our “PSR Allowed” figure of £39m comes from. You’re allowed £35m for each season in the Prem and £13m in the Champ. I can never quite work out how League 1 is calculated (I think it’s related to income) but even if it were zero we’d be on £48m.
The only thing I can think of is they’ve just taken the £13m pa in the Champ and multiplied it by three, which seems like a pretty basic error.


I think it might be right, but for the 23/24 season as finances for this season don't get submitted until early 2025?

So this would be for the season just gone rather than next season in the Prem
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PSR for next season on 16:44 - May 29 with 3437 viewsSmithersJones

PSR for next season on 16:28 - May 29 by Parsley

I think it might be right, but for the 23/24 season as finances for this season don't get submitted until early 2025?

So this would be for the season just gone rather than next season in the Prem


It’s a right old mish mash isn’t it? You’re probably right in what you say, and the axis is labelled allowable losses for 2024 (which is in itself confusing) but which ever season it’s for they’ve got the teams wrong and, frankly, what’s the point of producing calculations for the season just finished if you’re going to put us and Leicester in?
Either way I think we’re agreed that the figure for us next year will be considerably higher than what is listed.
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PSR for next season on 16:46 - May 29 with 3386 viewswkj

PSR for next season on 16:15 - May 29 by Tangledupin_Blue

And why doesn't it show Leeds?



...oh, hang on...


Were they not promoted at Christmas?

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PSR for next season on 16:46 - May 29 with 3372 viewsMVBlue

The elephant in the room there is..
Brighton is highly profitable blimey

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PSR for next season on 16:49 - May 29 with 3321 viewsportmanking

PSR for next season on 16:46 - May 29 by MVBlue

The elephant in the room there is..
Brighton is highly profitable blimey


Recent player sales...
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PSR for next season on 16:59 - May 29 with 3181 viewsOldFart71

I think this all goes to show that our purchasing needs to be as Ashton said pretty spot on. Cannot afford to have players that will play little or no part in the season. We will need to step up hugely on our youth production as for many seasons we haven't produced enough players either able to step into the first team or sell on.
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PSR for next season on 17:02 - May 29 with 3127 viewsMookamoo

Much rather be the manager of Brighton
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PSR for next season on 17:05 - May 29 with 3062 viewsFreddies_Ears

Bear in mind our income will be massively higher than of late, by £120m - £150m. Of course wages will be much, much higher, but there is some headroom to strengthen the squad.
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PSR for next season on 17:10 - May 29 with 2979 viewshoppy

PSR for next season on 16:11 - May 29 by longtimefan

Why does it show Luton instead of Southampton?


Presumably this was done prior to Sunday, at which stage only Leicester and Town were known as definite coming up.

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PSR for next season on 17:25 - May 29 with 2820 viewslongtimefan

PSR for next season on 17:10 - May 29 by hoppy

Presumably this was done prior to Sunday, at which stage only Leicester and Town were known as definite coming up.


Indeed. But Luton were already relegated. Would have made more sense only to show 19 teams.
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Or you can weigh it up and choose a points deduction! (n/t) on 18:07 - May 29 with 2546 viewsMarshalls_Mullet


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PSR for next season on 09:54 - May 30 with 2124 viewsxrayspecs

As others have posted, £20m looks about right for the season just ended. Next season we can lose £35m in the PL, compared to £13m per season in EFL. Our three year limit to this season is £39.

Our income will be around £100m higher next season. Our existing player wage bill will be higher as players will/May have promotion related pay rises. Taking all this into account still leaves us circa £100m headroom for new signings and wages.

Given transfer fees are charged to the accounts across the life time of the contract, only a proportion of the fee will appear on the accounts next season. You can play around will numbers but an example could be 10 new players on four year deals, each earning £20m and earning £60k per week. The cost on the accounts would be all of the annual wages (10 x £3m) and (25% x £200m) = £80m. The calculated gamble is that you stay up else will need player sales to balance books back in Championship.
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