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This season - disaster? 10:58 - May 19 with 1535 viewsbsw72

Seen many people call this season a disaster and worse in our history etc etc.

While I have continued to get frustrated with the defeats, and nature of some of our play, I do see a number of our players showing improvement over the season, and that the issues have been more around the obvious gaps in key positions due to injury / poor form, particularly in CM and down the right flank.

I'm not going to judge this season until we are into next season, as I think the players have probably learned and developed a lot more than we realise, and that we will reap that benefit next season (for the players who remain).

Crappy season, yes, but also hopefully a platform for the future.
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This season - disaster? on 11:03 - May 19 with 1508 viewsJ2BLUE

It has to be put into context of two amazing season and many, not all, but many had vastly overinflated expectations. We saw people saying easily top half and how they wouldn't take 17th etc.

It's been a reality check for some. What I really don't get is some of our most vocal and passionate supporters have seemed determined to find the whole experience really miserable. Under Evans I never thought Town would get back to the Prem. It's been a crap season, no one can argue but the owners and the parachute payments put us in a great position for another very exciting season.

I think we just all need the season over. A month or so with no games and then by pre season the excitement will be back.

Truly impaired.
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This season - disaster? on 11:04 - May 19 with 1505 viewsSomethingBlue

2001-02 was far, far worse. We'd got ourselves in an absolutely brilliant position the year before and then threw it away in a manner that, as I suspected it might at the time, cost us for many, many years. The squad was dejected and by the end pretty gutless. I was devastated.

Can't say anything like the same this season even if it hasn't gone remotely as we'd have loved it to.
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This season - disaster? on 11:09 - May 19 with 1462 viewsPhilTWTD

This season - disaster? on 11:04 - May 19 by SomethingBlue

2001-02 was far, far worse. We'd got ourselves in an absolutely brilliant position the year before and then threw it away in a manner that, as I suspected it might at the time, cost us for many, many years. The squad was dejected and by the end pretty gutless. I was devastated.

Can't say anything like the same this season even if it hasn't gone remotely as we'd have loved it to.
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And we'd got ourselves out of trouble as well, we were 12th in February and still managed to go down. I don't think the club really recovered from that season for years.

I think we're in the best shape coming down than any previous time from the Premier League. In 1994/95 there were serious thoughts that we could 'do a Swindon', as the saying at the time went, and drop down another division.
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This season - disaster? on 11:17 - May 19 with 1407 viewsSomethingBlue

This season - disaster? on 11:09 - May 19 by PhilTWTD

And we'd got ourselves out of trouble as well, we were 12th in February and still managed to go down. I don't think the club really recovered from that season for years.

I think we're in the best shape coming down than any previous time from the Premier League. In 1994/95 there were serious thoughts that we could 'do a Swindon', as the saying at the time went, and drop down another division.


Totally agree.

I have a very vivid memory, the day after we won 2-1 at Everton for seven wins in eight, of looking over the league table with my dad during Sunday lunch and saying: "Well at least we don't need to worry about relegation now." Think that will stay with me forever!
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This season - disaster? on 11:29 - May 19 with 1326 viewssmithy91

This season - disaster? on 11:03 - May 19 by J2BLUE

It has to be put into context of two amazing season and many, not all, but many had vastly overinflated expectations. We saw people saying easily top half and how they wouldn't take 17th etc.

It's been a reality check for some. What I really don't get is some of our most vocal and passionate supporters have seemed determined to find the whole experience really miserable. Under Evans I never thought Town would get back to the Prem. It's been a crap season, no one can argue but the owners and the parachute payments put us in a great position for another very exciting season.

I think we just all need the season over. A month or so with no games and then by pre season the excitement will be back.


I think for some fans the novetly of the prem (as a competition/spectacle) wore off pretty quickly...as soon as patterns of decisions and 'bias' were noticeable, at least that was my feeling.

I was one that thought lower midtable was achievable. I think the margins of error in alot of games, with the context of missing players, outrageouse VAR calls etc, means we were not far off picking up at least a dozen more pts...so overall i think our luck has been out and with smarter recruitment, odds are we will be far better off if we can get promoted again with this squad mostly intact.

Key for me is a winning start...if we struggle in august to pick up pts i fear we will struggle
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This season - disaster? on 11:41 - May 19 with 1275 viewsSteve_M

This season - disaster? on 11:09 - May 19 by PhilTWTD

And we'd got ourselves out of trouble as well, we were 12th in February and still managed to go down. I don't think the club really recovered from that season for years.

I think we're in the best shape coming down than any previous time from the Premier League. In 1994/95 there were serious thoughts that we could 'do a Swindon', as the saying at the time went, and drop down another division.


Yes, we managed to relegate ourselves twice that season. Totally self-inflicted.

18-19 was also frustrating, but the damage was done the previous Summer rather than during the season. Even if we could still have done better.

I think 94-95 was just a drawn out process and pretty much inevitable when we didn't strengthen much after the previous season.

This season is quite different, certainly incredibly frustrating and we've failed against our own expectations but it was always going to be difficult to find three teams we could finish above. I suppose the real test of how well we have done will be in who is left in August and whether we can hit the ground running.

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This season - disaster? on 15:06 - May 19 with 990 viewsIllinoisblue

The second half of the season has been truly awful. Won at Wolves, a narrow loss at Arsenal and then beat Chelsea at home to sow some seeds of belief. But for whatever reason (60% lack of quality or being streetwise enough, 40% injuries) we never kicked on, never learned, never dug out a result. We were lightweight and naive in almost every game.

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This season - disaster? on 15:11 - May 19 with 961 viewsmutters

Worst in our history? Man oh man

Clearly those who say that only started supporting us over the last few seasons when we were doing well.

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This season - disaster? on 15:13 - May 19 with 938 viewsDanTheMan

This season - disaster? on 15:11 - May 19 by mutters

Worst in our history? Man oh man

Clearly those who say that only started supporting us over the last few seasons when we were doing well.


You don't need to go far to find a worse one.

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This season - disaster? on 15:16 - May 19 with 914 viewswaveneyblue

This season - disaster? on 15:13 - May 19 by DanTheMan

You don't need to go far to find a worse one.


Apart from the ones mentioned above....
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This season - disaster? on 15:17 - May 19 with 909 viewsSuffolkPunchFC

This season - disaster? on 15:11 - May 19 by mutters

Worst in our history? Man oh man

Clearly those who say that only started supporting us over the last few seasons when we were doing well.


Well, you can't deny that it has been our worst in the past 3 seasons
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This season - disaster? on 16:07 - May 19 with 818 viewsCopfordBlue

I called it a disaster in a thread earlier. You’re right, I could have picked my words more carefully. Disaster is a bit of an over-statement.

It’s been very disappointing and below expectation. Not relegation but the manner of it. There’s no way players would have joined and McKenna would have signed a new contract if they thought we wouldn’t even be competitive and make a fight of staying up. One home win, relegated well before the end of the season, nearly 20 points from safety and so on are surely well below what those that were making the decisions that mattered expected.

I think we’ll recover well and in the long term this season will hopefully be a blip but it’s difficult pulling out many real on-field positives from it. The expectations from the realists was fairly low but the team haven’t even got close to meeting them. It’s been a very poor and disappointing season.

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This season - disaster? on 16:24 - May 19 with 766 viewsPhilTWTD

This season - disaster? on 11:41 - May 19 by Steve_M

Yes, we managed to relegate ourselves twice that season. Totally self-inflicted.

18-19 was also frustrating, but the damage was done the previous Summer rather than during the season. Even if we could still have done better.

I think 94-95 was just a drawn out process and pretty much inevitable when we didn't strengthen much after the previous season.

This season is quite different, certainly incredibly frustrating and we've failed against our own expectations but it was always going to be difficult to find three teams we could finish above. I suppose the real test of how well we have done will be in who is left in August and whether we can hit the ground running.


I don't see us losing many players upwards, maybe Delap and O'Shea the only ones who will attract Premier League interest. Not sure anyone else has done enough, although the likes of Hutchinson's potential could attract someone despite him not really setting the level alight in the same way as Delap.

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This season - disaster? on 16:51 - May 19 with 725 viewsRadlett_blue

I'm not sure many of our squad have distinguished themselves & looked like they belong in the PL, although it's hard to do so in a struggling side. Delap obviously, but he's going. Tuanzebe looks up to this level, but he's probably going too. Hutchinson has shown flashes, but I'm not sure others will be queuing up for him. The positive is that we will have a young squad of core players who should be excellent in the Championship & as long as they don;t think all they have to do is turn up next season, we should be strong contenders for promotion. It won;t be quite so exciting second time though, will it?

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This season - disaster? on 16:53 - May 19 with 714 viewsVaughan8

The relegation from the Championship season was the worst. You could tell early on we were so bad and it never improved. Not through lack of effort, just we were really cr@p.

Put into context, this season is a season we've just had to endure, take the money and rebuild to go up again. Next season will be interesting to see how good we are.
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This season - disaster? on 16:57 - May 19 with 689 viewsRadlett_blue

This season - disaster? on 16:53 - May 19 by Vaughan8

The relegation from the Championship season was the worst. You could tell early on we were so bad and it never improved. Not through lack of effort, just we were really cr@p.

Put into context, this season is a season we've just had to endure, take the money and rebuild to go up again. Next season will be interesting to see how good we are.


Yes and after I saw the pre-season friendly against West Ham, I (and my Hammer mate) thought Ellis Harrison looked a great signing & we would be OK. Shows how misleading friendly games can be!
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This season - disaster? on 17:01 - May 19 with 669 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

This season - disaster? on 11:09 - May 19 by PhilTWTD

And we'd got ourselves out of trouble as well, we were 12th in February and still managed to go down. I don't think the club really recovered from that season for years.

I think we're in the best shape coming down than any previous time from the Premier League. In 1994/95 there were serious thoughts that we could 'do a Swindon', as the saying at the time went, and drop down another division.


We were mid table in Mid Feb? I had no recollection of that!
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This season - disaster? on 17:06 - May 19 with 640 viewsChurchman

This season - disaster? on 11:09 - May 19 by PhilTWTD

And we'd got ourselves out of trouble as well, we were 12th in February and still managed to go down. I don't think the club really recovered from that season for years.

I think we're in the best shape coming down than any previous time from the Premier League. In 1994/95 there were serious thoughts that we could 'do a Swindon', as the saying at the time went, and drop down another division.


I agree re 2002 and 1994/5 and would add that shameful relegation to L1 in 2019. I could see no prospect of anything other than League 2 within a couple of seasons and lower than that. The club was rotten to the core. Every element.

This season has been very disappointing. I hoped we’d be more competitive. But this season is not a disaster.
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This season - disaster? on 17:33 - May 19 with 555 viewsmutters

This season - disaster? on 15:17 - May 19 by SuffolkPunchFC

Well, you can't deny that it has been our worst in the past 3 seasons


It's definitely our worse season out of the last 12 months

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This season - disaster? on 18:06 - May 19 with 499 viewsBloomBlue

Too many fans didn't have realistic expectations.
Too many laughed at Burnley and the fact it proved Kompany wasn't a great manager after all, without understanding the gap between the Champ & PL.

Too many don't like to accept their unrealistic expectations were incorrect and thus to them the season has been a disaster.

As they say, 'mind the gap'
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