| Sunderland 16:52 - Aug 16 with 2458 views | muccletonjoe |
8 making debuts and put 3 past west ham, have certainly made a better start than I thought they would. Hammers beat us easily at home in our last game in PL |  | | |  |
| Sunderland on 16:53 - Aug 16 with 1923 views | reusersfreekicks |
Hard to take isn't it |  | | |
| Sunderland on 16:55 - Aug 16 with 1864 views | BrianTablet |
Not playing the first game against Liverpool helps. |  |
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| Sunderland on 16:55 - Aug 16 with 1852 views | carlo88 |
I think we were enjoying the whole experience of promotion to the 'big time' so much we forgot to concentrate on tactics. Am starting to think KM is a more a romantic than a pragmatist. |  | | |
| Sunderland on 16:57 - Aug 16 with 1797 views | Wacko |
All goals scored by players from last season though |  |
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| Sunderland on 16:57 - Aug 16 with 1791 views | DavoIPB |
| Sunderland on 16:55 - Aug 16 by carlo88 |
I think we were enjoying the whole experience of promotion to the 'big time' so much we forgot to concentrate on tactics. Am starting to think KM is a more a romantic than a pragmatist. |
It's called sensible recruitment. Not wanting loads of money on unproven youngsters and championship players. | | | |
| Sunderland on 16:59 - Aug 16 with 1745 views | Bellevue_Blue |
We went toe to toe with a PL winning Liverpool side for the best part of 60 minutes. Either way, I think it's a pretty weak comparison when you add in the lack of momentum we had towards the end of last season and which certainly makes a big big difference.
Lets see where they are in May and then make a judgement. | | | |
| Sunderland on 16:59 - Aug 16 with 1740 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Told ya, what a mess we made last summer. |  |
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| Sunderland on 16:59 - Aug 16 with 1744 views | jas0999 |
| Sunderland on 16:55 - Aug 16 by BrianTablet |
Not playing the first game against Liverpool helps. |
… as does winning, particularly at home.
Suspect not picking up a single home point this calendar year didn’t help either. | | | |
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| Sunderland on 16:59 - Aug 16 with 1738 views | nshearman1 |
| Sunderland on 16:57 - Aug 16 by DavoIPB |
It's called sensible recruitment. Not wanting loads of money on unproven youngsters and championship players. |
Agreed. I think they've bought well this summer, and early. | | | |
| Sunderland on 17:01 - Aug 16 with 1671 views | Denny32 |
| Sunderland on 16:55 - Aug 16 by carlo88 |
I think we were enjoying the whole experience of promotion to the 'big time' so much we forgot to concentrate on tactics. Am starting to think KM is a more a romantic than a pragmatist. |
Agree !! Sunderland bringing in players from Europe and different leagues . Meanwhile mckenna bringing in locals that can speak English..listen to the teacher and his tactics and how to beat the opposition rather Than playing our own game and with flair and heavy with strikers up front..if we adrift and we'll adrift by 15 games..il lose faith then with our manager | | | |
| Sunderland on 17:02 - Aug 16 with 1647 views | urbanpenguin |
Let's see how they are performing come the last game. We started well too. The beginning and end of the season are very different moments. |  | | |
| Sunderland on 17:03 - Aug 16 with 1648 views | Churchman |
Not really. Great start and I’m pleased for them. They really are a proper Premier League club who’ve managed to mess it up in the last ten years. It’s where they belong having spent plenty of years there in the last 25.
We’d basically collapsed by the time we played West Ham so there’s no comparison. It is early season. We looked competitive in the early months of the season before being found out. |  | | |
| Sunderland on 17:03 - Aug 16 with 1643 views | BrianTablet |
| Sunderland on 16:59 - Aug 16 by jas0999 |
… as does winning, particularly at home.
Suspect not picking up a single home point this calendar year didn’t help either. |
I think if we'd played someone pants like West Ham, and won, we'd have stuck with the side and made any new recruits earn their starting place, rather than throwing them in to struggle. | |
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| Sunderland on 17:05 - Aug 16 with 1585 views | Bellevue_Blue |
It's just not even a comparison and it's pointless.
This is a team that spent 3 years in the Champ and sold 25M quid worth of players in the those last two years as well as 40M + this summer.
They had time to evolve the squad and the club in a different way.
Can't jump to conclusions now. They've not stayed up, they've won one game. [Post edited 16 Aug 17:06]
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| Sunderland on 17:05 - Aug 16 with 1569 views | TractorWood |
| Sunderland on 17:03 - Aug 16 by Churchman |
Not really. Great start and I’m pleased for them. They really are a proper Premier League club who’ve managed to mess it up in the last ten years. It’s where they belong having spent plenty of years there in the last 25.
We’d basically collapsed by the time we played West Ham so there’s no comparison. It is early season. We looked competitive in the early months of the season before being found out. |
Apart from West Ham away where we were battered and our fans were leaving after 50 minutes. |  |
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| Sunderland on 17:06 - Aug 16 with 1539 views | carlo88 |
| Sunderland on 17:03 - Aug 16 by BrianTablet |
I think if we'd played someone pants like West Ham, and won, we'd have stuck with the side and made any new recruits earn their starting place, rather than throwing them in to struggle. |
West Ham were absolute pants and under real pressure at home when we played them early on, they beat us 4-1. That's what I'm talking about tactics. | | | |
| Sunderland on 17:09 - Aug 16 with 1497 views | SitfcB |
Not really.
We had an absolute horrid start. |  |
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| Sunderland on 17:12 - Aug 16 with 1417 views | TheBoyBlue |
| Sunderland on 16:57 - Aug 16 by DavoIPB |
It's called sensible recruitment. Not wanting loads of money on unproven youngsters and championship players. |
It's not wasted in the long-term though. We'll see first if Sunderland if they stay up and if they don't what they'll be left with in the long-term. | |
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| Sunderland on 17:14 - Aug 16 with 1389 views | Funge |
| Sunderland on 17:02 - Aug 16 by urbanpenguin |
Let's see how they are performing come the last game. We started well too. The beginning and end of the season are very different moments. |
We didn't start well. |  | | |
| Sunderland on 18:16 - Aug 16 with 1170 views | blueoutlook |
Didn’t need to gel, unlike our team. Each season we hear that for at least the first 3 months. |  | | |
| Sunderland on 21:06 - Aug 16 with 933 views | BrianTablet |
| Sunderland on 17:06 - Aug 16 by carlo88 |
West Ham were absolute pants and under real pressure at home when we played them early on, they beat us 4-1. That's what I'm talking about tactics. |
Look at the team that day. I think even at this stage we were leaking confidence and bedding in new players who ultimately didn't ever bed in (Muric, Clarke, Phillips, Johnson).
That's not really tactics. That's personnel. Or personnel who don't fit/understand the tactics. [Post edited 16 Aug 21:07]
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| Sunderland on 21:36 - Aug 16 with 878 views | MattinLondon |
Why? They’ve got three points - for all we know they may well go a few months without getting another point. |  | | |
| Sunderland on 22:03 - Aug 16 with 798 views | HighgateBlue |
We never had a Premier League midfield, sadly. Personally I think that was the biggest problem. |  | | |
| Sunderland on 22:21 - Aug 16 with 747 views | lazyblue |
Not having Liverpool in first game but a poor hammers team is huge , want Sunderland to go down though. | | | |
| Sunderland on 22:29 - Aug 16 with 719 views | pointofblue |
We were a year ahead of schedule. The more this summer develops, the more it's coming across we were setting ourselves up to be ready for the Premier League this season - the academy finally being granted Category A status and the number of players we're buying from foreign league. Last summer, and January, can be picked apart should we wish, but the reason it went wrong is we weren't ready. A year before we were in League One, and hadn't been in the top tier for over two decades. | |
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