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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) 22:24 - Sep 28 with 2584 viewsITFC_Forever


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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 22:26 - Sep 28 with 2183 viewsDropCliffsNotBombs

Need that final 1/2 so that Hovland's half isn't an issue
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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 22:26 - Sep 28 with 2175 viewsSitfcB

Trump ringing the PGA as we speak.

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 22:30 - Sep 28 with 2119 viewsreusersfreekicks

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 22:26 - Sep 28 by DropCliffsNotBombs

Need that final 1/2 so that Hovland's half isn't an issue


Precisely
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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 22:40 - Sep 28 with 2060 viewsredrickstuhaart

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 22:26 - Sep 28 by SitfcB

Trump ringing the PGA as we speak.


I was wondering about Trump.

There supporting players with names like DeChambeau, Morikawa and Schaufele.

All foreign. Surely ICE should be there dealing with them?

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 22:45 - Sep 28 with 2022 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

Does seem strange that you can be injured and it locks in half a point.

Should be -3 points as a penalty for getting injured playing golf

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 22:57 - Sep 28 with 1926 viewsreusersfreekicks

1 singles win for Europe yet still retain the cup!
Does that take a bit of the gloss off
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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 22:57 - Sep 28 with 1928 viewsITFC_Forever

Won’t need to now.

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 22:59 - Sep 28 with 1909 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 22:57 - Sep 28 by reusersfreekicks

1 singles win for Europe yet still retain the cup!
Does that take a bit of the gloss off


Not really. It shows how well we did to get in the position we were in and how good the US players are as individual golfers. I think most expected us to lose. Not only did we retain the Ryder Cup but we won it away. Great result despite the US making a remarkable fight of it.

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:12 - Sep 28 with 1845 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Glad we got to 15 as don’t particularly like that rule tbh.

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:14 - Sep 28 with 1834 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:12 - Sep 28 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Glad we got to 15 as don’t particularly like that rule tbh.


You would prefer the injured player to have to concede their match?

I can understand that argument.

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:17 - Sep 28 with 1817 viewsITFC_Forever

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:12 - Sep 28 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Glad we got to 15 as don’t particularly like that rule tbh.


I’m glad we got to 15 so that match is irrelevant and stops the discussion.

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:20 - Sep 28 with 1787 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:14 - Sep 28 by Nthsuffolkblue

You would prefer the injured player to have to concede their match?

I can understand that argument.


I’d prefer there to be a first reserve but in a tight match it seems an odd rule. Injured tennis players have to concede matches all the time and a half point could have obviously been massive.

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:35 - Sep 28 with 1728 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:17 - Sep 28 by ITFC_Forever

I’m glad we got to 15 so that match is irrelevant and stops the discussion.


Yes, exactly.

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:41 - Sep 28 with 1708 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 22:57 - Sep 28 by reusersfreekicks

1 singles win for Europe yet still retain the cup!
Does that take a bit of the gloss off


Does being up 4-0 at Half Time, having it clawed back to 4-4, then scoring an injury time winner take the gloss off?

Fck no!
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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:53 - Sep 28 with 1652 viewsbournemouthblue

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:20 - Sep 28 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

I’d prefer there to be a first reserve but in a tight match it seems an odd rule. Injured tennis players have to concede matches all the time and a half point could have obviously been massive.


In most other sports, if a member of your squad is injured, you bring in a reserve

That's probably a rule they'll look at
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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 00:01 - Sep 29 with 1610 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:53 - Sep 28 by bournemouthblue

In most other sports, if a member of your squad is injured, you bring in a reserve

That's probably a rule they'll look at
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Not sure if they will, pretty sure America benefited from it in 1991. Just seems odd to me, so glad to get to 15!

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 00:03 - Sep 29 with 1608 viewsCafe_Newman

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 22:40 - Sep 28 by redrickstuhaart

I was wondering about Trump.

There supporting players with names like DeChambeau, Morikawa and Schaufele.

All foreign. Surely ICE should be there dealing with them?


Without players with names like Hiawatha or Running Bear, they're all foreign.

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 00:18 - Sep 29 with 1578 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:53 - Sep 28 by bournemouthblue

In most other sports, if a member of your squad is injured, you bring in a reserve

That's probably a rule they'll look at
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I'm not sure the idea of going to a golf tournament with the only possibility of playing any part is if someone in your team gets injured is quite how the game works. I think it is fine as it stands. Clearly there should be some contingency where if a team is clearly taking the mick (e.g. five Europeans claimed to be unable to play), there should be a forfeiture of the point instead of sharing it. I can see an argument for it being a forfeit anyway.

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 02:57 - Sep 29 with 1482 viewsPerublue

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 00:03 - Sep 29 by Cafe_Newman

Without players with names like Hiawatha or Running Bear, they're all foreign.


As they were too thanks to the ice bridge and the great trek from Asia

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 06:59 - Sep 29 with 1333 viewsITFC_Forever

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:20 - Sep 28 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

I’d prefer there to be a first reserve but in a tight match it seems an odd rule. Injured tennis players have to concede matches all the time and a half point could have obviously been massive.


Tennis isn’t a team sport, so there’s no other option.

The Ryder Cup is a team event, so a squad / reserve isn’t impossible.

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 07:00 - Sep 29 with 1332 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 00:18 - Sep 29 by Nthsuffolkblue

I'm not sure the idea of going to a golf tournament with the only possibility of playing any part is if someone in your team gets injured is quite how the game works. I think it is fine as it stands. Clearly there should be some contingency where if a team is clearly taking the mick (e.g. five Europeans claimed to be unable to play), there should be a forfeiture of the point instead of sharing it. I can see an argument for it being a forfeit anyway.


Pretty sure only one player is named - so no possibiity of "taking the mick".

Not sure what would happen if more players unable to play but AFAIK you can't just pop to the Post Office and grab some more envelopes.

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 07:28 - Sep 29 with 1273 viewsNthQldITFC

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 23:12 - Sep 28 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Glad we got to 15 as don’t particularly like that rule tbh.


I suppose you could have a substitute, but then there's the possibility to swap a player out based on bad form rather than injury. Probably preferable to this envelope rule though?

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 12:21 - Sep 29 with 980 viewsFtnfwest

Best idea i've seen to replace this envelope rule in the future is for the captain of the fully fit team gets to nominate one of the remaining games as 'double points'.
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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 14:37 - Sep 29 with 892 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 06:59 - Sep 29 by ITFC_Forever

Tennis isn’t a team sport, so there’s no other option.

The Ryder Cup is a team event, so a squad / reserve isn’t impossible.


Have you seen what happens if a player has to retire in a match in the Davis Cup?

I personally think the rule needs looking at, could have been massive as it was for the US in 91. Luckily had no true impact yesterday.

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Americans are going to go all Blackburn about the Hovland match. (n/t) on 18:16 - Sep 29 with 773 viewsBlueForYou

Surprising they haven't called for Europe to be removed & we go back to playing the US v Gt Britain & Ireland. The envelope rule was brought in back in 79 when the format was changed.
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