| Wetherspoons idiocy... 11:50 - Jun 13 with 3632 views | sparks |
According to bbc they are replacing champagne with English and aussie sparkling wine and German or Belgian beer with cheap English brews in anticipation of brexit.
There's a reason people choose those products... many are better than uk equivalents... |  |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:53 - Jun 13 with 2883 views | Oldsmoker |
I have a breakfast at my local spoons now and then.
The people I've met there don't strike me as typical champagne drinkers. |  |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:53 - Jun 13 with 2879 views | BrixtonBlue |
Sounds like a PR stunt to me... particularly with it just ahead of the world cup when patriotism goes through the roof for a few weeks. |  |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:54 - Jun 13 with 2872 views | BOjK |
Do you think there are many champagne drinkers in spoons? |  |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:54 - Jun 13 with 2871 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:53 - Jun 13 by Oldsmoker |
I have a breakfast at my local spoons now and then.
The people I've met there don't strike me as typical champagne drinkers. |
Yeah the champagne one I can understand. Who on earth drinks champagne in a Wetherspoons? | |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:57 - Jun 13 with 2860 views | ITFC_Forever |
They're clearly making sure they continue to appeal to their demographic.
A headline-grabbing story like this will fit right in. |  |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:57 - Jun 13 with 2854 views | StokieBlue |
As many have pointed out, doubt there are many champagne drinkers in your averages Spoons.
Agree on the beer and their reasoning is very silly but I don't agree on the English sparkling wine. The good stuff from down on the south coast (Nyetimber for instance) is just as good if not better than Champagne and has won many awards over recent years.
Apparently it's because the climate there is now much like it was in Champagne a few hundred years ago (not verified this). Even French Champagne makers are buying up land there:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/may/07/champagne-taittinger-plants-fir
Not sure Wetherspoons took any of that into consideration when making their decision though!
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:57 - Jun 13 with 2856 views | vapour_trail |
It’s quite smart. They’re playing to their customer base. |  |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:57 - Jun 13 with 2853 views | Bent_double |
Don't see a problem to be honest, UK companies should be promoting home grown/made products in favour of foreign ones, and hasn't English sparkling wine improved immensely over the last few years?
Besides, who goes into a Wetherspoons and orders Champagne?  |  |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:58 - Jun 13 with 2850 views | Lord_Lucan |
Yes but the owner is a massive Brexiter and like Smoker said I doubt they sell much champagne - in fact I would wager that most Wetherspoons clientele wouldn't know the difference of anything.
If I wasn't such a keen drinker I would love it if after Brexit the government repealed the licencing laws and re introduced the draconian ones we had pre 90's where pubs couldn't open before 11 and had to close in the afternoons - to the strapline "We've got are licensing laws back" |  |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:00 - Jun 13 with 2836 views | J2BLUE |
Alcohol free Ghost Ship is replacing their alcohol free beer.
Great to see a local company benefiting from Brexit 
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:16 - Jun 13 with 2752 views | sparks |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:57 - Jun 13 by StokieBlue |
As many have pointed out, doubt there are many champagne drinkers in your averages Spoons.
Agree on the beer and their reasoning is very silly but I don't agree on the English sparkling wine. The good stuff from down on the south coast (Nyetimber for instance) is just as good if not better than Champagne and has won many awards over recent years.
Apparently it's because the climate there is now much like it was in Champagne a few hundred years ago (not verified this). Even French Champagne makers are buying up land there:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/may/07/champagne-taittinger-plants-fir
Not sure Wetherspoons took any of that into consideration when making their decision though!
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It is however expensive in comparison to low end but perfectly decent champagne | |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:16 - Jun 13 with 2746 views | connorscontract |
Get with the times! English Sparkling Wines are beating similarly priced Champagnes in blind tastings, and this wasn't just trolling:
http://www.decanter.com/wine-news/gordon-ramsay-lists-english-sparkling-wines-at
As a hedge against the pound crashing against the Euro post-Brexit it makes sense, and with EU tariffs on New World wines potentially being removed they could become extremely price competitive.
They are getting the supply chains built now, ahead of the rush when the transition period ends. And get to look patriotic which may appeal to many of their customers. |  | | |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:17 - Jun 13 with 2736 views | MedwayTractor |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:57 - Jun 13 by StokieBlue |
As many have pointed out, doubt there are many champagne drinkers in your averages Spoons.
Agree on the beer and their reasoning is very silly but I don't agree on the English sparkling wine. The good stuff from down on the south coast (Nyetimber for instance) is just as good if not better than Champagne and has won many awards over recent years.
Apparently it's because the climate there is now much like it was in Champagne a few hundred years ago (not verified this). Even French Champagne makers are buying up land there:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/may/07/champagne-taittinger-plants-fir
Not sure Wetherspoons took any of that into consideration when making their decision though!
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Just had a quick read of the Grauniad article, the picture of Chilham Square is misleading as a location reference, but it would be too much to hope for that they would have used another nearby village, Old Wives Lees. |  |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:23 - Jun 13 with 2702 views | Oldsmoker |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:57 - Jun 13 by Bent_double |
Don't see a problem to be honest, UK companies should be promoting home grown/made products in favour of foreign ones, and hasn't English sparkling wine improved immensely over the last few years?
Besides, who goes into a Wetherspoons and orders Champagne? |
It seems these people have threatened to boycott spoons.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/we-insist-on-only-the-finest-french- | |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:26 - Jun 13 with 2681 views | sparks |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:16 - Jun 13 by connorscontract |
Get with the times! English Sparkling Wines are beating similarly priced Champagnes in blind tastings, and this wasn't just trolling:
http://www.decanter.com/wine-news/gordon-ramsay-lists-english-sparkling-wines-at
As a hedge against the pound crashing against the Euro post-Brexit it makes sense, and with EU tariffs on New World wines potentially being removed they could become extremely price competitive.
They are getting the supply chains built now, ahead of the rush when the transition period ends. And get to look patriotic which may appeal to many of their customers. |
There are fine English ones . But not at the lowest end. No equivalent of Nicholas feuillate etc all.
But the beer is the significant point. | |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:28 - Jun 13 with 2661 views | Lord_Lucan |
Another thing
The price of Champagne and European beers will have risen dramatically because of the exchange rate fall post referendum. Wetherspoons make an extremely small profit margin on their beers and this will have smacked them on the arse. | |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:39 - Jun 13 with 2614 views | connorscontract |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:26 - Jun 13 by sparks |
There are fine English ones . But not at the lowest end. No equivalent of Nicholas feuillate etc all.
But the beer is the significant point. |
But *if* currency fluctuations and tariffs kick in then a current (shop price) £14.99 entry level Feuillate may end up closer to the current £22 Chapel Down, which would currently be in competition with Feuillate's Reserve or entry level Lanson and Moet.
Spoons sell Veuve, which usually retails for more than many English sparkling wines, too. Amazing, but true.
On beer, Spoons entire business model is based on low margin high volume, and customers who want a variety of beers but who are primarily price sensitive. They are known in the trade for taking on "over-stocks" from breweries at short notice at discount. They are just trying to even out the risk of currency fluctuations with this move, whilst also throwing in some tub-thumping, flag waving and a couple of shouts of "Hurrah!"
You'll have to find somewhere else to sample your Trappist Belgians! | | | |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:40 - Jun 13 with 2606 views | jontysnut |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:57 - Jun 13 by StokieBlue |
As many have pointed out, doubt there are many champagne drinkers in your averages Spoons.
Agree on the beer and their reasoning is very silly but I don't agree on the English sparkling wine. The good stuff from down on the south coast (Nyetimber for instance) is just as good if not better than Champagne and has won many awards over recent years.
Apparently it's because the climate there is now much like it was in Champagne a few hundred years ago (not verified this). Even French Champagne makers are buying up land there:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/may/07/champagne-taittinger-plants-fir
Not sure Wetherspoons took any of that into consideration when making their decision though!
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I've had some English sparkling wines and although they're pretty good they're not cheap. I know he'll be buying big but I reckon he'd be doing well to beat the price he pays for a similar volume of Champagne |  | | |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:42 - Jun 13 with 2596 views | StokieBlue |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:40 - Jun 13 by jontysnut |
I've had some English sparkling wines and although they're pretty good they're not cheap. I know he'll be buying big but I reckon he'd be doing well to beat the price he pays for a similar volume of Champagne |
That's a fair point which Sparks also made.
Without serious discounts (which can be found on a bottle but not in bulk) they don't compete on price.
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:46 - Jun 13 with 2585 views | Sarge |
So the mug in charge of wetherspoons campaigns for Brexit and then replaces beers with nasty British stuff because the decent stuff is now too expensive as a result of his and others idiocy...stunning
Fortunately for me I don't drink wheat beer because it's vile so aside from my actual life being screwed by Brexit I guess I've come out of this ok! | | | |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:52 - Jun 13 with 2559 views | Bluebell |
Stupid I know but you don't HAVE to go to Weatherspoons. If you don't like the decision to change their alcohol, go somewhere else!
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 13:19 - Jun 13 with 2474 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:52 - Jun 13 by Bluebell |
Stupid I know but you don't HAVE to go to Weatherspoons. If you don't like the decision to change their alcohol, go somewhere else!
Simple really. |
What other pubs open at 7am Bluebell? | |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 13:20 - Jun 13 with 2468 views | SpruceMoose |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:54 - Jun 13 by BrixtonBlue |
Yeah the champagne one I can understand. Who on earth drinks champagne in a Wetherspoons? |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 13:35 - Jun 13 with 2424 views | catch74 |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 12:40 - Jun 13 by jontysnut |
I've had some English sparkling wines and although they're pretty good they're not cheap. I know he'll be buying big but I reckon he'd be doing well to beat the price he pays for a similar volume of Champagne |
Recently took my staff to the local vineyard (Greyfriars) and the sparkling was fantastic, as someone has already said winning awards against Champagnes etc etc The main cost is that they are made in the same way as Champagne, individually carbonated in their bottle etc etc. This is his how Prosecco is so much cheaper - carbonated in a tank and bottled.
I imagine Wetherspoons will keep Prosecco as cheap fizz. |  |
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| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 13:49 - Jun 13 with 2380 views | BlueBadger |
| Wetherspoons idiocy... on 11:54 - Jun 13 by BrixtonBlue |
Yeah the champagne one I can understand. Who on earth drinks champagne in a Wetherspoons? |
They're certainly not in the '90 quid for bangers and mash' class of drinker. |  |
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