| Boris sending the letter but not signing it 22:19 - Oct 19 with 9453 views | ElderGrizzly |
He is a pathetic little man child. And stupid too, as plenty of QCs have said he has broken the law.
Back in court Monday
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:25 - Oct 20 with 3238 views | hampstead_blue |
He's showing the contempt he feels the letter is due.
Not childish at all.
If you force someone into a line they 100% disagree with then it's not going to be pretty.
By sending the second letter he is making his veiws clear.
It's also right not to sign it as the letter was from Parlianment. |  |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:26 - Oct 20 with 3229 views | hampstead_blue |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 22:45 - Oct 19 by Ryorry |
I actually feel really, really sorry for the EU officials - what the hell are they supposed to do?! Must be like being asked to act in loco parentis for a group of 650 3-year olds arguing about whether to keep their sweets or eat them! |
Well said Sir.
If only parlianment would grow up, both sides, and get on with Brexit and stop trying to deny democracy. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:29 - Oct 20 with 3222 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:21 - Oct 20 by ZedRodgers |
Making a comparison to Corbyn on this particular point shows your lack of understanding (and your obsession). Very cheap ‘holier than thou’ political analysis to say leaders of parties/groups you disagree with are presiding over cults.
Q. Which people has Corbyn betrayed since he’s been in “power”? |
Blimey, talk about setting it up for an obvious tap in...
I,’m not going to go there though, as this thread is about Boris’ unsuitability to be PM. |  |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:38 - Oct 20 with 3208 views | itfcjoe |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:25 - Oct 20 by hampstead_blue |
He's showing the contempt he feels the letter is due.
Not childish at all.
If you force someone into a line they 100% disagree with then it's not going to be pretty.
By sending the second letter he is making his veiws clear.
It's also right not to sign it as the letter was from Parlianment. |
He’s the Prime Minister, not a child forced to make an apology they don’t want to |  |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:39 - Oct 20 with 3203 views | sparks |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:25 - Oct 20 by hampstead_blue |
He's showing the contempt he feels the letter is due.
Not childish at all.
If you force someone into a line they 100% disagree with then it's not going to be pretty.
By sending the second letter he is making his veiws clear.
It's also right not to sign it as the letter was from Parlianment. |
Just nonsense. |  |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:45 - Oct 20 with 3183 views | Guthrum |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:25 - Oct 20 by hampstead_blue |
He's showing the contempt he feels the letter is due.
Not childish at all.
If you force someone into a line they 100% disagree with then it's not going to be pretty.
By sending the second letter he is making his veiws clear.
It's also right not to sign it as the letter was from Parlianment. |
One cannot simply disregard the law just because you disagree with, or even feel contempt for, it.
The Act specifies that the Prime Minister must seek an extension by sending the letter. There isn't an option to not do it just because he doesn't want to. |  |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:54 - Oct 20 with 3173 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:25 - Oct 20 by hampstead_blue |
He's showing the contempt he feels the letter is due.
Not childish at all.
If you force someone into a line they 100% disagree with then it's not going to be pretty.
By sending the second letter he is making his veiws clear.
It's also right not to sign it as the letter was from Parlianment. |
This explains why people are saying you’re talking nonsense btw.
https://davidallengreen.com/2019/09/brexit-padfield-and-the-benn-act/
He knows he shouldn’t be responding in a way that defies the spirit of the law. He’s only done this to play to his core support, but it’s possibly illegal. | |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:56 - Oct 20 with 3172 views | jjblue84 |
This is what happens when you try to run the country by unelected lawyers trying to enforce stupid laws...what a shambles! |  | | |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 09:00 - Oct 20 with 3151 views | Herbivore |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:56 - Oct 20 by jjblue84 |
This is what happens when you try to run the country by unelected lawyers trying to enforce stupid laws...what a shambles! |
I'm a little surprised you're still being tolerated when your trolling is so obvious and so lame. |  |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 09:03 - Oct 20 with 3134 views | jjblue84 |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 09:00 - Oct 20 by Herbivore |
I'm a little surprised you're still being tolerated when your trolling is so obvious and so lame. |
Still nothing to say and still here!!  | | | |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 09:09 - Oct 20 with 3120 views | lowhouseblue |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 00:12 - Oct 20 by Guthrum |
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/07/court-rejects-latest-request-to
'The UK government’s lawyers told the court on Friday Johnson would write that letter if required and argued that a legally binding order was therefore not needed. The government also promised not to thwart the act’s provisions by lobbying EU member states to reject calls for an extension to article 50.' - which is why the court ruled it was not necessary to put into place an order binding the Government at that stage.
The Act does not merely say he has to write a letter. It states: '1 (4) The Prime Minister must seek to obtain from the European Council an extension of the period under Article 50(3) of the Treaty on European Union ending at 11.00pm on 31 October 2019 by sending to the President of the European Council a letter in the form set out in the Schedule to this Act ...' (my boldening). By not writing the letter properly, by not signing it and by attempting to undermine its purpose, Johnson is not fulfilling the relevant Act, in letter or spirit.
Besides which, he's a fool. He could have requested the extension and used the time to get his deal through Parliament, legislation and all. Most commentators believed he stood a very good chance today, before the Letwin spanner was thrown into the works. Now he's just cooked himself up another fight. [Post edited 20 Oct 2019 0:23]
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is he 'lobbying EU member states to reject calls for an extension to article 50'? he has just written to tusk.
following your emphasis: "The Prime Minister must SEEK TO OBTAIN from the European Council an extension of the period under Article 50(3) of the Treaty on European Union ending at 11.00pm on 31 October 2019 BY sending to the President of the European Council a letter ...."
it's a silly thing to get excited about. the only person who benefits from court cases and drama about this is boris. it reinforces the public perception that he is fighting back against a concerted effort to block brexit. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 09:10 - Oct 20 with 3114 views | Guthrum |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:56 - Oct 20 by jjblue84 |
This is what happens when you try to run the country by unelected lawyers trying to enforce stupid laws...what a shambles! |
The law was passed by our elected representatives. The judiciary has a duty to enforce it.
Perhaps you could argue the European Union Referendum Act 2015 was also a 'stupid law' as it precipitated a vote without due preparation? | |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 09:23 - Oct 20 with 3087 views | Guthrum |
Tactically it's not astute, either. If Johnson had sent the letter properly, there were indications the EU would have held off on their decision to give him time to get some of the legislation through while the threat of no deal was still in the air. Now he has merely riled up the opposition again, shown himself untrustworthy (which was the problem in the first place) and will be censured by the courts. | |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 09:28 - Oct 20 with 3080 views | factual_blue |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 09:23 - Oct 20 by Guthrum |
Tactically it's not astute, either. If Johnson had sent the letter properly, there were indications the EU would have held off on their decision to give him time to get some of the legislation through while the threat of no deal was still in the air. Now he has merely riled up the opposition again, shown himself untrustworthy (which was the problem in the first place) and will be censured by the courts. |
I think he's moved on from his Churchill delusion, and now thinks he's Henry VIII.
Hopefully cummings will meet the same fate at Thomas Cromwell. |  |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 09:36 - Oct 20 with 3064 views | ZedRodgers |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:29 - Oct 20 by Swansea_Blue |
Blimey, talk about setting it up for an obvious tap in...
I,’m not going to go there though, as this thread is about Boris’ unsuitability to be PM. |
Of course, your quip is merely a HIGNFY-style retort and actually has no substance. Well done though.
My point was about how the comparison was unnecessary and misplaced, so I’m glad we agree. |  |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 10:01 - Oct 20 with 3036 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 09:36 - Oct 20 by ZedRodgers |
Of course, your quip is merely a HIGNFY-style retort and actually has no substance. Well done though.
My point was about how the comparison was unnecessary and misplaced, so I’m glad we agree. |
No substance? Have the Equality & Human Right Commission concluded their investigation and found there to be no substance behind the allegations of antisemitism? Genuine question. | |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 10:17 - Oct 20 with 3017 views | MJallday |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 22:24 - Oct 19 by factual_blue |
The implications of Padfield should always be considered. |
Saturday night and the air is getting hot. |  |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 10:32 - Oct 20 with 2997 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 10:17 - Oct 20 by MJallday |
Saturday night and the air is getting hot. |
Like you baby 😂 | |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 10:34 - Oct 20 with 2995 views | m14_blue |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:25 - Oct 20 by hampstead_blue |
He's showing the contempt he feels the letter is due.
Not childish at all.
If you force someone into a line they 100% disagree with then it's not going to be pretty.
By sending the second letter he is making his veiws clear.
It's also right not to sign it as the letter was from Parlianment. |
You can’t really believe that?
Fancy ‘forcing’ our Prime Minister to obey the law, how dare they? |  | | |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 10:36 - Oct 20 with 2986 views | Herbivore |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 10:34 - Oct 20 by m14_blue |
You can’t really believe that?
Fancy ‘forcing’ our Prime Minister to obey the law, how dare they? |
This one's a fanatic. | |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 10:51 - Oct 20 with 2961 views | giant_stow |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 08:21 - Oct 20 by ZedRodgers |
Making a comparison to Corbyn on this particular point shows your lack of understanding (and your obsession). Very cheap ‘holier than thou’ political analysis to say leaders of parties/groups you disagree with are presiding over cults.
Q. Which people has Corbyn betrayed since he’s been in “power”? |
To turn the question around, I wonder how many people on that march yesterday feel corbyn's truly in their side.. |  |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 10:57 - Oct 20 with 2955 views | jjblue84 |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 09:10 - Oct 20 by Guthrum |
The law was passed by our elected representatives. The judiciary has a duty to enforce it.
Perhaps you could argue the European Union Referendum Act 2015 was also a 'stupid law' as it precipitated a vote without due preparation? |
Which law was broken when the Supreme Court ruled over parliament?? | | | |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 11:50 - Oct 20 with 2935 views | Guthrum |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 10:57 - Oct 20 by jjblue84 |
Which law was broken when the Supreme Court ruled over parliament?? |
Johnson was not acting within the constitution. The courts do have a right to adjudicate on that, too.
Otherwise how would itbe possible to challenge a government acting wrongly? | |
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| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 11:54 - Oct 20 with 2930 views | jjblue84 |
| Boris sending the letter but not signing it on 11:50 - Oct 20 by Guthrum |
Johnson was not acting within the constitution. The courts do have a right to adjudicate on that, too.
Otherwise how would itbe possible to challenge a government acting wrongly? |
Where in the constitution is it written that you cannot prorogue Parliament?? | | | |
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