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Long-Bailey 09:48 - Jan 7 with 4421 viewsBluefish

Does she really share the same views independently as Corbz and McDonnell or is she just playing to that crowd to be their puppet?

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Long-Bailey on 09:49 - Jan 7 with 1912 viewsWD19

You are just the sexist right-wing press and I claim my £5.
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Long-Bailey on 09:54 - Jan 7 with 1893 viewshampstead_blue

She was giving the same election denial lines as JC and JM on R4 this morning.

Nothing changes.

Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me. Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing. Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial. Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid. Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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Long-Bailey on 09:59 - Jan 7 with 1870 viewslowhouseblue

Long-Bailey on 09:54 - Jan 7 by hampstead_blue

She was giving the same election denial lines as JC and JM on R4 this morning.

Nothing changes.


she was trying to say that nothing went wrong with the election while at the same time trying to distance herself from all the stuff people have told her was unpopular. so she couldn't give a straight answer to anything and tied herself in knots.

I was trying to find an interview she did on newsnight in about 2016 - it was a notable car crash. trouble is when you put 'long-bailey car crash interview' into google there are so many I couldn't find it.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Long-Bailey on 10:01 - Jan 7 with 1866 viewshampstead_blue

Long-Bailey on 09:59 - Jan 7 by lowhouseblue

she was trying to say that nothing went wrong with the election while at the same time trying to distance herself from all the stuff people have told her was unpopular. so she couldn't give a straight answer to anything and tied herself in knots.

I was trying to find an interview she did on newsnight in about 2016 - it was a notable car crash. trouble is when you put 'long-bailey car crash interview' into google there are so many I couldn't find it.


Agree.
Same old, same old.

The left wingers will be along soon to shoot us down.

Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me. Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing. Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial. Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid. Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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Long-Bailey on 10:03 - Jan 7 with 1860 viewsElephantintheRoom

She's a politician so believe anything she says at your peril. Also something of a Gucci socialist.

BUT she is a woman AND an Ay Ooop Northerner which counts for a lot in the Islington set.

MInd you, Newcastle is in the south if you live in Berwick

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Long-Bailey on 10:38 - Jan 7 with 1811 viewsGlasgowBlue

Long-Bailey on 09:59 - Jan 7 by lowhouseblue

she was trying to say that nothing went wrong with the election while at the same time trying to distance herself from all the stuff people have told her was unpopular. so she couldn't give a straight answer to anything and tied herself in knots.

I was trying to find an interview she did on newsnight in about 2016 - it was a notable car crash. trouble is when you put 'long-bailey car crash interview' into google there are so many I couldn't find it.


This is my favourite RLB interview

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/829296/Brexit-news-Andrew-Neil-savages-Rebecca

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Long-Bailey on 11:02 - Jan 7 with 1778 viewslowhouseblue

Long-Bailey on 10:38 - Jan 7 by GlasgowBlue

This is my favourite RLB interview

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/829296/Brexit-news-Andrew-Neil-savages-Rebecca


the trouble with rlb, and corbyn has set the measure on this pretty low already, she's really not very bright.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Long-Bailey on 11:08 - Jan 7 with 1768 viewspeterleeblue

She is a Gob Sh!te.

Offers no solutions only criticisms and to somehow suggest Corbyn did a good job (whether he did or he didn't) is burying ones head of Comical Ali proportions.
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Long-Bailey on 11:17 - Jan 7 with 1747 viewsbrazil1982

Long-Bailey on 09:59 - Jan 7 by lowhouseblue

she was trying to say that nothing went wrong with the election while at the same time trying to distance herself from all the stuff people have told her was unpopular. so she couldn't give a straight answer to anything and tied herself in knots.

I was trying to find an interview she did on newsnight in about 2016 - it was a notable car crash. trouble is when you put 'long-bailey car crash interview' into google there are so many I couldn't find it.


Just imagine Wrong-Daily as PM. Good lord.
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Long-Bailey on 11:19 - Jan 7 with 1744 viewsjaykay

Long-Bailey on 09:54 - Jan 7 by hampstead_blue

She was giving the same election denial lines as JC and JM on R4 this morning.

Nothing changes.


yeah nothing changes, you have just proved that point

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Long-Bailey on 11:32 - Jan 7 with 1719 viewsGlasgowBlue

Long-Bailey on 11:02 - Jan 7 by lowhouseblue

the trouble with rlb, and corbyn has set the measure on this pretty low already, she's really not very bright.


If RLB gets the job then I think there will be a genuine breakaway movement from the Labour Party. With a large Tory majority the Labour moderates aren’t going to be concerned with an imminent general election. You only need 102 to breakaway and they form the official opposition.
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Long-Bailey on 11:40 - Jan 7 with 1688 viewslowhouseblue

Long-Bailey on 11:32 - Jan 7 by GlasgowBlue

If RLB gets the job then I think there will be a genuine breakaway movement from the Labour Party. With a large Tory majority the Labour moderates aren’t going to be concerned with an imminent general election. You only need 102 to breakaway and they form the official opposition.
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for many labour mps now there is no prospect of a labour government in their political life times. so there wouldn't be much to lose. plus there would be the embarrassment factor of having to pretend to take her seriously as a leader.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Long-Bailey on 11:54 - Jan 7 with 1647 viewsitfcjoe

Long-Bailey on 11:40 - Jan 7 by lowhouseblue

for many labour mps now there is no prospect of a labour government in their political life times. so there wouldn't be much to lose. plus there would be the embarrassment factor of having to pretend to take her seriously as a leader.


How did the election effect the balance of MPs with regards to Corbyn loyalists?

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Long-Bailey on 12:09 - Jan 7 with 1611 viewsElephantintheRoom

Long-Bailey on 11:40 - Jan 7 by lowhouseblue

for many labour mps now there is no prospect of a labour government in their political life times. so there wouldn't be much to lose. plus there would be the embarrassment factor of having to pretend to take her seriously as a leader.


I think you will find that all sitting Labour MPs got their seats by standing on the manifesto.

So (a) it worked for them (IF you believe anybody anywhere pays any attention to a manifesto)

And (b) They can't really complain about a platform they fought the election on - and won.

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Long-Bailey on 12:11 - Jan 7 with 1598 viewsGlasgowBlue

Long-Bailey on 11:40 - Jan 7 by lowhouseblue

for many labour mps now there is no prospect of a labour government in their political life times. so there wouldn't be much to lose. plus there would be the embarrassment factor of having to pretend to take her seriously as a leader.


Of course RLB was only McDonnell’s proffered choice to carry the flame. Corbyn wanted Laura Pidcock which would have been a disaster. Thankfully she lost her seat.

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Long-Bailey on 12:13 - Jan 7 with 1593 viewschicoazul

Long-Bailey on 11:32 - Jan 7 by GlasgowBlue

If RLB gets the job then I think there will be a genuine breakaway movement from the Labour Party. With a large Tory majority the Labour moderates aren’t going to be concerned with an imminent general election. You only need 102 to breakaway and they form the official opposition.
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People have been saying this for years and it doesnt happen. If RLB does get the job and if it's true she is more of the Maximum Leader then, considering all the current Labour MPs got their jobs on the basis of the Labour manifesto written by the Maximum Leader, it would be rich sauce indeed for them to do such a thing.

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Long-Bailey on 12:14 - Jan 7 with 1587 viewslowhouseblue

Long-Bailey on 12:09 - Jan 7 by ElephantintheRoom

I think you will find that all sitting Labour MPs got their seats by standing on the manifesto.

So (a) it worked for them (IF you believe anybody anywhere pays any attention to a manifesto)

And (b) They can't really complain about a platform they fought the election on - and won.


the aim of labour mps is to form a labour government. so they didn't win. it's when you have to explain to people how general elections work that you realise what a low level things have now reached.
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And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Long-Bailey on 12:15 - Jan 7 with 1577 viewshampstead_blue

Long-Bailey on 11:02 - Jan 7 by lowhouseblue

the trouble with rlb, and corbyn has set the measure on this pretty low already, she's really not very bright.


Keeping it low.

If she gets the job the Labour party will probably split. How long would the moderates want to be out of power?
It would be very hard to come back from all that far left loony politics.

Let her win, sit back, and watch the show.

Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me. Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing. Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial. Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid. Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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Long-Bailey on 12:15 - Jan 7 with 1575 viewslowhouseblue

Long-Bailey on 11:54 - Jan 7 by itfcjoe

How did the election effect the balance of MPs with regards to Corbyn loyalists?


I haven't done the maths as it were. but the corbynites are now a bigger percentage - but not dramatically so.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Long-Bailey on 12:19 - Jan 7 with 1556 viewsDarth_Koont

I'm enjoying this thread.

All this agitated interest in a leadership candidate from people who don't have any interest in Labour's policies.

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Long-Bailey on 12:24 - Jan 7 with 1519 viewshampstead_blue

Long-Bailey on 12:19 - Jan 7 by Darth_Koont

I'm enjoying this thread.

All this agitated interest in a leadership candidate from people who don't have any interest in Labour's policies.


But we do.
We are keenly interested as it makes a difference to the whole country.

The longer the hard left pull the strings the longer you'll sit on the sidelines with many shouting at clouds.

Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me. Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing. Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial. Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid. Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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Long-Bailey on 12:29 - Jan 7 with 1506 viewsDarth_Koont

Long-Bailey on 12:24 - Jan 7 by hampstead_blue

But we do.
We are keenly interested as it makes a difference to the whole country.

The longer the hard left pull the strings the longer you'll sit on the sidelines with many shouting at clouds.


As long as you lot push the lie that social democracy is the hard left then the whole country will be stuck in the last century.

What the country needs most is an alternative to the ever rightwards direction of travel that has given us an awful government and awful initiatives like Brexit.

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Long-Bailey on 12:38 - Jan 7 with 1465 viewsGlasgowBlue

Long-Bailey on 12:15 - Jan 7 by lowhouseblue

I haven't done the maths as it were. but the corbynites are now a bigger percentage - but not dramatically so.


I think for every Caroline Flint or Ruth Smeeth Labour also lost an Emma Dent Coad or Laura Pidcock.

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Long-Bailey on 12:46 - Jan 7 with 1446 viewsjaykay

Long-Bailey on 12:24 - Jan 7 by hampstead_blue

But we do.
We are keenly interested as it makes a difference to the whole country.

The longer the hard left pull the strings the longer you'll sit on the sidelines with many shouting at clouds.


just enjoy the hard right pulling the strings for a few years. trickle down health is coming soon.

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Long-Bailey on 12:51 - Jan 7 with 1431 viewsBlueNomad

I think Jess Phillips would rip Johnson apart every week in PMQ's which would be great; not sure of her leadership credentials though.

Agree that RLB would be more of a continuity leader which would not be effective.
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