| "You must stay at home" 20:40 - Mar 23 with 15555 views | Mullet |
Who is writing his speeches? He means "you will" doesn't he?
Boris has not been clear enough throughout for me. His choice of language and form goes before him. |  |
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| (No subject) on 20:57 - Mar 23 with 3944 views | Herbivore |
| (No subject) on 20:55 - Mar 23 by Pecker |
If you cannot work from home, then you can go to work. (not retail, except food/medical) Is it really that hard to understand. He was speaking English. |
Which makes much of the rest of social distancing pointless if we still have millions going to work every day. |  |
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| (No subject) on 20:57 - Mar 23 with 3945 views | pointofblue |
| (No subject) on 20:54 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
The work stuff is the one area where he wasn't clear at all. You can go to work but only if you really need to and you can't work from home. |
Possibly he could have said “unless you’re a key worker as specified by the school closure list”. |  |
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| "You must stay at home" on 20:57 - Mar 23 with 3943 views | homer_123 |
| "You must stay at home" on 20:53 - Mar 23 by Mullet |
I'm not disputing that I understand it, I've been doing the same for a week now pretty much. But I'm talking about the response it will get from the people who need to hear the message loud and clear.
However, the message of "you must stay at home" followed by here's all the ways not to stay at home seemed the wrong way around to me. Maybe it just feels like he's not done enough in being direct before for me. I just don't see this getting through to some. |
Given the country needs a proportion of people to keep working.
He would be equally slaughtered if he had said everyone stay at home. |  |
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| "You must stay at home" on 20:58 - Mar 23 with 3944 views | azuremerlangus |
| "You must stay at home" on 20:43 - Mar 23 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Generally I agree but I don’t think anyone can say tonight’s statement wasn’t crystal clear
What hasn’t been confirmed and I guess will be released shortly is exactly how this will work in practice - eg. Will a form be required a la the French system |
I would like to think that the British public have got it by now? It is a very short, simple list of rules to follow - the game is play by those basic rules, not to find ways to circumvent them just because it is inconvenient to the individual. |  |
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| "You must stay at home" on 20:58 - Mar 23 with 3944 views | Swansea_Blue |
| "You must stay at home" on 20:53 - Mar 23 by LankHenners |
Didn’t say it wasn’t. The messenger is the problem. This should have been drummed into the public conscious weeks ago.
Hopefully this is the start of the gov finally getting a grip on things. |
Yep. He had no problem getting across 'take back control' and ' we give the EU £350m per week...[we don't and never have] or 'Get Brexit Done'. None whatsoever, and all supported supported by saturation targeted ads across all social media platforms. But that's gone (for now).
At least he's got there in the end, and now we wait a couple of weeks to see if it's worked or if the response is too late (I suspect the latter, but we'll see). |  |
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| (No subject) on 20:59 - Mar 23 with 3939 views | Lord_Lucan |
| (No subject) on 20:54 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
The work stuff is the one area where he wasn't clear at all. You can go to work but only if you really need to and you can't work from home. |
I admit it could be a bit difficult to interpret if 100 people in an office can't work from home.
I suspect there will be a clarification. |  |
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| "You must stay at home" on 20:59 - Mar 23 with 3928 views | Mullet |
| "You must stay at home" on 20:55 - Mar 23 by pointofblue |
I think it’s the best he could do. There’s got to be some give due to ongoing situations and these have to be listed. |
I'm not doubting that, but maybe Boris' best just isn't enough. For a man who apes Churchill in his mind, and harks back to the Blitz type language he just doesn't strike me as being received that way.
Maybe I'm just too close to the events to see it, but to me I felt he could have pushed this line earlier and more decisively given how inevitable tonight feels. | |
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| (No subject) on 21:00 - Mar 23 with 3923 views | homer_123 |
| (No subject) on 20:54 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
The work stuff is the one area where he wasn't clear at all. You can go to work but only if you really need to and you can't work from home. |
It's clear...
....and to travel to and from work when “absolutely necessary”
So...if your job doesn't fit the criteria laid out re. Key workers you dont leave your home. | |
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| (No subject) on 21:01 - Mar 23 with 3912 views | Herbivore |
| (No subject) on 20:57 - Mar 23 by pointofblue |
Possibly he could have said “unless you’re a key worker as specified by the school closure list”. |
If that is indeed what he meant. This is the issue, it's not clear. | |
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| (No subject) on 21:01 - Mar 23 with 3900 views | Guthrum |
| (No subject) on 20:50 - Mar 23 by Lord_Lucan |
No, any work is ok - as long as you can't work from home.
I suspect a building site comes under a gathering of more than 2 people. |
Hmm, not how I read it. Hate to get fined on a point of semantics. |  |
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| (No subject) on 21:02 - Mar 23 with 3891 views | Herbivore |
| (No subject) on 21:00 - Mar 23 by homer_123 |
It's clear...
....and to travel to and from work when “absolutely necessary”
So...if your job doesn't fit the criteria laid out re. Key workers you dont leave your home. |
That's your interpretation, not what he said. | |
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| (No subject) on 21:06 - Mar 23 with 3847 views | Herbivore |
He didn't say anything about key workers. | |
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| (No subject) on 21:07 - Mar 23 with 3847 views | Mullet |
| (No subject) on 21:02 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
That's your interpretation, not what he said. |
I do feel a bit vindicated by you and Guthers at least!
Maybe it was seeing all the people disregarding prior advice and the general fear and disorientation we are all feeling, but I just don't have faith in enough of the public to comply like we all seem to be taking for granted.
Or ironically maybe I wasn't clear enough myself! | |
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| "You must stay at home" on 21:07 - Mar 23 with 3843 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| "You must stay at home" on 20:43 - Mar 23 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Generally I agree but I don’t think anyone can say tonight’s statement wasn’t crystal clear
What hasn’t been confirmed and I guess will be released shortly is exactly how this will work in practice - eg. Will a form be required a la the French system |
A French letter indeed...? |  |
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| "You must stay at home" on 21:08 - Mar 23 with 3836 views | Swansea_Blue |
| "You must stay at home" on 20:58 - Mar 23 by azuremerlangus |
I would like to think that the British public have got it by now? It is a very short, simple list of rules to follow - the game is play by those basic rules, not to find ways to circumvent them just because it is inconvenient to the individual. |
Apparently not 🤷â€â™‚ï¸ | |
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| "You must stay at home" on 21:09 - Mar 23 with 3828 views | DebsyAngel |
I understood what he was saying mostly, but does this override his earlier statement about the over 75s and people who need to stay in for their health reasons? So would it be ok for my healthy Mum to go shopping for him and also for the poor lonely old lady next door to them? Not made that clear, and I am confused. The thing about food deliveries was rubbish - how many weeks to wait for it and then sod all what you ordered available? And not all old people are on the internet. I would be happy to order stuff forthem but with the delivery slots all taken up and no guarantee of availability, it's pretty hard. I wish I could go shopping for them but it would mean 2 bus journeys for me, and I am meant to be self isolating. |  | | |
| (No subject) on 21:10 - Mar 23 with 3817 views | homer_123 |
| (No subject) on 21:06 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
He didn't say anything about key workers. |
Christ on a bike...use your brain for crying out loud man.
If you need everything soon fed to you then there's no hope.
Stay safe fella. | |
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| (No subject) on 21:10 - Mar 23 with 3811 views | pointofblue |
| (No subject) on 21:06 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
He didn't say anything about key workers. |
And if it hadn’t been agreed at work today that I could work from home from now on I would currently be in a quandary as I don’t see it as such but my managers did. And I received a letter in relation to school places to that affect as well. | |
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| (No subject) on 21:12 - Mar 23 with 3805 views | Lord_Lucan |
| (No subject) on 21:01 - Mar 23 by Guthrum |
Hmm, not how I read it. Hate to get fined on a point of semantics. |
- If it is absolutely necessary | |
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| (No subject) on 21:13 - Mar 23 with 3794 views | Herbivore |
| (No subject) on 21:10 - Mar 23 by homer_123 |
Christ on a bike...use your brain for crying out loud man.
If you need everything soon fed to you then there's no hope.
Stay safe fella. |
Or maybe the PM could be clear with his messaging? What you have done is interpreted what he said in a certain way and assumed you've interpreted it correctly. There should be no room for interpretation. | |
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| (No subject) on 21:15 - Mar 23 with 3778 views | Guthrum |
| (No subject) on 21:12 - Mar 23 by Lord_Lucan |
- If it is absolutely necessary |
I read that as meaning essential work only. | |
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| (No subject) on 21:17 - Mar 23 with 3767 views | Lord_Lucan |
| (No subject) on 21:15 - Mar 23 by Guthrum |
I read that as meaning essential work only. |
I disagree Guthers - and for once I think I'm right. | |
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| (No subject) on 21:19 - Mar 23 with 3755 views | Swansea_Blue |
| (No subject) on 20:50 - Mar 23 by Lord_Lucan |
No, any work is ok - as long as you can't work from home.
I suspect a building site comes under a gathering of more than 2 people. |
"Essential" work. As in essential at this point of time to get through this crisis.
If he'd have been totally prescriptive, he'd have been there all night and missed out some group and got stick for it.
if this doesn't work maybe they'll have to draw up lists of what classifies as essential work, but I'd hope that people can use a bit of judgement. If it isn't directly related to supporting the effort of fighting the virus or keeping essential services/supplies running, it ain't essential. How then those people can pay the bills is another question. | |
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| (No subject) on 21:21 - Mar 23 with 3742 views | Herbivore |
| (No subject) on 21:19 - Mar 23 by Swansea_Blue |
"Essential" work. As in essential at this point of time to get through this crisis.
If he'd have been totally prescriptive, he'd have been there all night and missed out some group and got stick for it.
if this doesn't work maybe they'll have to draw up lists of what classifies as essential work, but I'd hope that people can use a bit of judgement. If it isn't directly related to supporting the effort of fighting the virus or keeping essential services/supplies running, it ain't essential. How then those people can pay the bills is another question. |
I'm not sure that's how people will take it. | |
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