| "You must stay at home" 20:40 - Mar 23 with 15322 views | Mullet |
Who is writing his speeches? He means "you will" doesn't he?
Boris has not been clear enough throughout for me. His choice of language and form goes before him. |  |
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| (No subject) on 21:22 - Mar 23 with 3663 views | Swansea_Blue |
| (No subject) on 21:21 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
I'm not sure that's how people will take it. |
Then we're f*cked. |  |
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| (No subject) on 21:23 - Mar 23 with 3661 views | Lord_Lucan |
| (No subject) on 21:19 - Mar 23 by Swansea_Blue |
"Essential" work. As in essential at this point of time to get through this crisis.
If he'd have been totally prescriptive, he'd have been there all night and missed out some group and got stick for it.
if this doesn't work maybe they'll have to draw up lists of what classifies as essential work, but I'd hope that people can use a bit of judgement. If it isn't directly related to supporting the effort of fighting the virus or keeping essential services/supplies running, it ain't essential. How then those people can pay the bills is another question. |
When did he say "Essential" in the travelling to work? He said travel to work if "Absolutely necessary"
Essential work is covered in a different blanket |  |
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| "You must stay at home" on 21:24 - Mar 23 with 3653 views | Pinewoodblue |
Until the new emergency laws come into force all he can say is You MUST, once the law is passed then he can say you will stay at home. |  |
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| (No subject) on 21:27 - Mar 23 with 3629 views | Herbivore |
| (No subject) on 21:22 - Mar 23 by Swansea_Blue |
Then we're f*cked. |
Listen again to what Johnson said, there's tons of room for interpretation. And therein lies the problem once again. |  |
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| (No subject) on 21:29 - Mar 23 with 3627 views | Lord_Lucan |
| (No subject) on 21:13 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
Or maybe the PM could be clear with his messaging? What you have done is interpreted what he said in a certain way and assumed you've interpreted it correctly. There should be no room for interpretation. |
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| (No subject) on 21:41 - Mar 23 with 3582 views | Mullet |
You beat me to it, seems fitting I've got a group chat of a dozen supposedly educated people all arguing about what tomorrow means dinging away in the background. | |
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| (No subject) on 21:52 - Mar 23 with 3556 views | Coastalblue |
| (No subject) on 21:23 - Mar 23 by Lord_Lucan |
When did he say "Essential" in the travelling to work? He said travel to work if "Absolutely necessary"
Essential work is covered in a different blanket |
I'm working on my own in an empty house, my work is necessary because if I don't go and do it I can't pay my mortgage at the end of the month.
I heard nothing that suggested this is key workers only, clearly if I were working in a team of 20 people I'd think differently, but I am going to work in the morning until someone actually tells me otherwise. |  |
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| (No subject) on 21:59 - Mar 23 with 3529 views | Swansea_Blue |
| (No subject) on 21:23 - Mar 23 by Lord_Lucan |
When did he say "Essential" in the travelling to work? He said travel to work if "Absolutely necessary"
Essential work is covered in a different blanket |
You're right, he said "absolutely necessary". But the advice on the govt website is "essential" - https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus
Semantics though. Necessary and essential are synonyms. The message is clear - people should say at home unless their work is necessary/essential to help us all get through this. The use of either word doesn't change the meaning. | |
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| (No subject) on 22:05 - Mar 23 with 3515 views | Lord_Lucan |
| (No subject) on 21:52 - Mar 23 by Coastalblue |
I'm working on my own in an empty house, my work is necessary because if I don't go and do it I can't pay my mortgage at the end of the month.
I heard nothing that suggested this is key workers only, clearly if I were working in a team of 20 people I'd think differently, but I am going to work in the morning until someone actually tells me otherwise. |
This is exactly what he said and it applies to you. My friend is a graphic designer with one member of staff, the staff member is working from home and my friend is travelling in his car to an otherwise empty office.
I will drive to work on my own on Wednesdays and stay on site on my own until I come home Friday afternoon. I can work from home for most days but I simply can't get enough done at home all week with a nagging wife and grandchild, plus I will always need to reference some things that are at work.
It completely relates to you and me and we are doing nothing wrong, we are acting sensibly and within the guidelines. Other than that I am pretty much isolating as best I can, I will get my fuel from a pay at pump station and I will avoid human contact.
A complete isolation for me is impossible because of my grandchild who comes round most days to be looked after as his parents are both key workers.
If my son in laws key worker status changes (which bizarrely it might) he will move in to our house with grandchild, we will go in complete lockdown and my daughter will not see her child for weeks, possibly months. I have also already arranged for my corner shop near to my office to deliver me essentials if I need them and he will leave outside.
The idiots at the markets, beaches and ice cream vans over the weekend can get to fcuk! | |
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| (No subject) on 22:05 - Mar 23 with 3513 views | Herbivore |
| (No subject) on 21:59 - Mar 23 by Swansea_Blue |
You're right, he said "absolutely necessary". But the advice on the govt website is "essential" - https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus
Semantics though. Necessary and essential are synonyms. The message is clear - people should say at home unless their work is necessary/essential to help us all get through this. The use of either word doesn't change the meaning. |
That's not what is suggested here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-
The wording here is: "Travelling to and from work, but only where this absolutely cannot be done from home."
Again, it's mixed messages. | |
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| (No subject) on 22:06 - Mar 23 with 3506 views | Rocky |
| (No subject) on 21:52 - Mar 23 by Coastalblue |
I'm working on my own in an empty house, my work is necessary because if I don't go and do it I can't pay my mortgage at the end of the month.
I heard nothing that suggested this is key workers only, clearly if I were working in a team of 20 people I'd think differently, but I am going to work in the morning until someone actually tells me otherwise. |
And as a self-employed gardener, can I travel to work? It isn't essential work - except to me. |  | | |
| "You must stay at home" on 22:09 - Mar 23 with 3498 views | factual_blue |
He has the oratorical skills of a decomposing lettuce. |  |
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| "You must stay at home" on 22:11 - Mar 23 with 3475 views | Rocky |
| "You must stay at home" on 22:09 - Mar 23 by factual_blue |
He has the oratorical skills of a decomposing lettuce. |
Cos he has. | | | |
| (No subject) on 22:22 - Mar 23 with 3425 views | Guthrum |
| (No subject) on 21:17 - Mar 23 by Lord_Lucan |
I disagree Guthers - and for once I think I'm right. |
That would be good, as I'd rather keep working while I can. |  |
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| (No subject) on 22:23 - Mar 23 with 3420 views | Herbivore |
| (No subject) on 22:22 - Mar 23 by Guthrum |
That would be good, as I'd rather keep working while I can. |
See my post a few posts up. Looks like you're fine. | |
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| "You must stay at home" on 22:25 - Mar 23 with 3411 views | jeera |
| "You must stay at home" on 22:11 - Mar 23 by Rocky |
Cos he has. |
We need governance right now, not anarchy.
Don't be so cress. |  |
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| "You must stay at home" on 22:27 - Mar 23 with 3410 views | Swansea_Blue |
| "You must stay at home" on 22:25 - Mar 23 by jeera |
We need governance right now, not anarchy.
Don't be so cress. |
Anarchy? Leaf it out. | |
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| (No subject) on 22:31 - Mar 23 with 3397 views | Lord_Lucan |
| (No subject) on 22:22 - Mar 23 by Guthrum |
That would be good, as I'd rather keep working while I can. |
BUT - you would be coming into contact with customers would you not? | |
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| "You must stay at home" on 22:31 - Mar 23 with 3398 views | Theonlywayisup |
I actually agree he once again was completely vague.
He did not mention the protocol if a child spends times at his time at 2 separate households? |  | | |
| "You must stay at home" on 23:17 - Mar 23 with 3350 views | Ryorry |
| "You must stay at home" on 20:50 - Mar 23 by Plums |
They will. As people did in the ‘30s when told to evacuate. It’s going to be interesting to see how it’s enforced. |
I think his statement tonight that if people didn't adhere to these rules the police would arrive to enforce them, made the sophistry of whether "must" or "will" are the correct words rather redundant.
I did wonder how the boys in blue would safely handcuff people from a distance of 2m tho - full protection suits?  |  |
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| (No subject) on 23:20 - Mar 23 with 3341 views | Pinewoodblue |
| (No subject) on 22:31 - Mar 23 by Lord_Lucan |
BUT - you would be coming into contact with customers would you not? |
Didn’t Guthrum say he was working in an empty house? | |
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| (No subject) on 23:54 - Mar 23 with 3302 views | Guthrum |
| (No subject) on 23:20 - Mar 23 by Pinewoodblue |
Didn’t Guthrum say he was working in an empty house? |
Yes. Not even a house, but a church hall, where nobody will be meeting for the duration, either. | |
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| (No subject) on 00:47 - Mar 24 with 3277 views | linhdi |
| (No subject) on 21:27 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
Listen again to what Johnson said, there's tons of room for interpretation. And therein lies the problem once again. |
I listened to it live, but didn't understand what he meant. It only became clear when I realized that there are no legal powers for several days yet. So he is asking us to isolate, mostly, unless you have to go to work, whatever that work is. Sort of. | | | |
| "You must stay at home" on 03:02 - Mar 24 with 3248 views | itfcjoe |
I thought the delivery of the message was much better tonight, probably helped by him not waffling when answering questions afterwards.
But on his Twitter and Instagram a video was released outlining the steps and it said that:
The only reasons you can leave home - to go to work if you are a key worker
But that video was pulled and later replaced with new wording (which is still live) saying - to go to work (but work from home if possible)
And later it’s been clarified that construction sites are still open, so realistically all jobs are still open.
I can’t sleep worrying about it all, what to do with things. My heart conflicting with my head. |  |
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| "You must stay at home" on 04:14 - Mar 24 with 3224 views | textbackup |
| "You must stay at home" on 03:02 - Mar 24 by itfcjoe |
I thought the delivery of the message was much better tonight, probably helped by him not waffling when answering questions afterwards.
But on his Twitter and Instagram a video was released outlining the steps and it said that:
The only reasons you can leave home - to go to work if you are a key worker
But that video was pulled and later replaced with new wording (which is still live) saying - to go to work (but work from home if possible)
And later it’s been clarified that construction sites are still open, so realistically all jobs are still open.
I can’t sleep worrying about it all, what to do with things. My heart conflicting with my head. |
simple, will you be paid if you work from home, or just don't go in? yes or no. then that's effectively your answer
many of my mates are self employed, so either on sites or at customers houses. a lot of house visiting work has been cancelled, except things like fitting boilers in garages, outside taps/lights being fit, roofing. I have a bloke lined up to do some facias and soffits at end of week, he'll go round the back of house, do work, give me thumbs up, ill transfer his wage via banking app. I see that as absolutely safe personally
nobody in their right mind will want a tradesman actually in their house at this time surely? |  |
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