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Aliens? 12:01 - Apr 29 with 3089 viewsBrixtonBlue

Very interesting that this has been released by the US Department of Defense and they say it's genuine and they don't know what it is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/newsbeat-52455169/us-military-shares-ufo-videos-fi

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Aliens? on 16:16 - Apr 29 with 538 viewsStokieBlue

Aliens? on 16:05 - Apr 29 by BrixtonBlue

You'd think with the specific arm being the Department of Defense, they'd know what it is if it's some sort of new military thing (which I guess is what you're hinting at)?

If the US Department of Defense doesn't know what it is, shouldn't we be concerned?


I actually don't think the Department of Defence knows everything that other development arms in the US government are working on.

In the same way, presidents often don't know a lot of things. Probably the most informed president was Bush senior and that was only because he was head of the CIA before he become president.

Should we be concerned? Probably more important things to worry about at this specific time I would wager. There is also the possibility they know exactly what it is and it suits their purposes to say they don't. The US used to do that with the U2 and the SR71.

Good videos though.

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Aliens? on 16:28 - Apr 29 with 522 viewseireblue

Aliens? on 16:09 - Apr 29 by BrixtonBlue

I don't believe in ghosts, which is totally different to alien life which, as Stokie says above, almost certainly exists.

What makes you think they were 'dicking around'? Maybe they were just observing.
What would you expect a waaaaay more advanced alien life form to do if it discovered us?


If humans are any guide, eat and exploit us.
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Aliens? on 16:29 - Apr 29 with 522 viewsBrixtonBlue

Aliens? on 16:16 - Apr 29 by StokieBlue

I actually don't think the Department of Defence knows everything that other development arms in the US government are working on.

In the same way, presidents often don't know a lot of things. Probably the most informed president was Bush senior and that was only because he was head of the CIA before he become president.

Should we be concerned? Probably more important things to worry about at this specific time I would wager. There is also the possibility they know exactly what it is and it suits their purposes to say they don't. The US used to do that with the U2 and the SR71.

Good videos though.

SB


Oh I totally understand presidents not knowing everything. I've always thought they're little more than a figurehead. You certainly wouldn't want Trump knowing everything anyway!

But I really don't go with your first sentence. Yes there's likely stuff they don't know about in other departments, but not military craft such as this. That's their department!

Your last sentence is probably the closest to the truth (other than aliens!) Which is interesting in itself, if they've developed something with that speed and manoeuvrability.

What's also interesting to me is that no-one has said these videos could be fakes. So the belief is that this is SOMETHING (i.e. not some sort of camera trickery), we just don't know what.

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Aliens? on 16:36 - Apr 29 with 520 viewsBrixtonBlue

Aliens? on 16:28 - Apr 29 by eireblue

If humans are any guide, eat and exploit us.


But humans aren't any guide to how an alien race might behave, anymore than humans would be a guide to how ants behave.

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Aliens? on 16:40 - Apr 29 with 507 viewsmonytowbray

Aliens? on 16:16 - Apr 29 by BlueBadger

They weren't even as good as Busted or McFly.
Yet another feather-light US punk pop act.


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Aliens? on 16:42 - Apr 29 with 510 viewsfooters

Aliens? on 16:40 - Apr 29 by monytowbray

This is bait.


True tho innit.

I'd say the same about Green Day too, but there we are.

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Aliens? on 16:42 - Apr 29 with 508 viewsfooters

Aliens? on 16:36 - Apr 29 by BrixtonBlue

But humans aren't any guide to how an alien race might behave, anymore than humans would be a guide to how ants behave.


Think it was a joke, Dolly.

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Aliens? on 16:54 - Apr 29 with 489 viewseireblue

Aliens? on 16:42 - Apr 29 by footers

Think it was a joke, Dolly.


Ants don’t have a perceivable sense of humour, aliens don’t have a perceivable sense of humour.....Dol....OMG

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Aliens? on 16:56 - Apr 29 with 483 viewsStokieBlue

Aliens? on 16:36 - Apr 29 by BrixtonBlue

But humans aren't any guide to how an alien race might behave, anymore than humans would be a guide to how ants behave.


Perhaps not the best example:

https://www.wired.com/2010/08/gallery-ant-warfare/

SB

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Aliens? on 16:56 - Apr 29 with 483 viewsBrixtonBlue

Aliens? on 16:42 - Apr 29 by footers

Think it was a joke, Dolly.


Ah, I thought I was still replying to Mr J from the first page!

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Aliens? on 16:57 - Apr 29 with 480 viewsSwansea_Blue

Aliens? on 12:22 - Apr 29 by TIB

Ex Blink 182 singer atom Delonge had a lot to do with this. His live shows became a bit much with him often ranting about government coverups and aliens before he launched an academy that has been investigating and pressuring governments to be more transparent about “alien” life forms. I think he’s seeing this as his first victory and opening it paves the way for more.

Some of his early work doesn’t sound so silly now...



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Aliens? on 16:58 - Apr 29 with 477 viewsfooters

Aliens? on 16:57 - Apr 29 by Swansea_Blue

And provided proof that a single glove really is one piece of PPE


She'll need longer gloves than that.

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Aliens? on 17:05 - Apr 29 with 465 viewseireblue

Aliens? on 16:56 - Apr 29 by BrixtonBlue

Ah, I thought I was still replying to Mr J from the first page!


But you have just reminded me, Matinee with John Goodman, film gem. Features Mants!
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Aliens? on 17:41 - Apr 29 with 448 viewsBrixtonBlue

Aliens? on 16:56 - Apr 29 by StokieBlue

Perhaps not the best example:

https://www.wired.com/2010/08/gallery-ant-warfare/

SB


That was fascinating actually, cheers!

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Aliens? on 17:58 - Apr 29 with 445 viewsMr_J

Aliens? on 16:09 - Apr 29 by BrixtonBlue

I don't believe in ghosts, which is totally different to alien life which, as Stokie says above, almost certainly exists.

What makes you think they were 'dicking around'? Maybe they were just observing.
What would you expect a waaaaay more advanced alien life form to do if it discovered us?


I don't necessarily think they were dicking around I was just wondering why a lifeform capable of interstellar travel would come all the way here just to observe us (a relatively primitive species by their standards). Although we cannot comprehend their thinking so I'm just guessing that would take no interest in us the same way we take no interest of ants.

I think if they would wipe us out if they thought we were a threat.

On an unrelated note, something I can't help thinking about lately is the idea that once a lifeform becomes intelligent enough to upload their consciousness into a virtual realm, they can live in eternal bliss and would have no need for a physical body which is cumbersome. Maybe thats my inner nihilist coming out.

But most likely I think that intelligent life that manages to flourish long enough avoiding extinction events, and then becoming capable of travelling interstellar space, is so extremely rare that we will never come into contact with them.
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Aliens? on 18:17 - Apr 29 with 439 viewsjeera

Aliens? on 15:22 - Apr 29 by monytowbray

It seemed I triggered some people.

Calm down, it's a joke in reference to the fact clearly Sparks has no idea what the joke is or who the band are.


Calm down?

It's the over-use as though it's somehow clever instead of just repetitive and irritating, not to mention incorrect. Bully isn't even of that generation.

I keep seeing it everywhere so it's hardly unique to you. I hate these borrowed terms.

A bit like the overuse of 'triggered'.

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Aliens? on 18:23 - Apr 29 with 431 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Did the pilot snot on his canopy?

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Aliens? on 18:28 - Apr 29 with 430 viewsjeera

Aliens? on 18:23 - Apr 29 by BanksterDebtSlave

Did the pilot snot on his canopy?


I did wonder if it was a fly.

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Aliens? on 18:49 - Apr 29 with 417 viewssparks

Aliens? on 16:09 - Apr 29 by BrixtonBlue

I don't believe in ghosts, which is totally different to alien life which, as Stokie says above, almost certainly exists.

What makes you think they were 'dicking around'? Maybe they were just observing.
What would you expect a waaaaay more advanced alien life form to do if it discovered us?


not get caught on shi tty camera gear unless it wanted to make itself known. In which case we would all know.

And not crash in a desert.

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Aliens? on 18:54 - Apr 29 with 409 viewsfergalsharkey

Russian drone gunships, released by the yanks to show they are aware but without apportioning blame.

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Aliens? on 18:58 - Apr 29 with 407 viewsMeadowlark

Aliens? on 16:09 - Apr 29 by BrixtonBlue

I don't believe in ghosts, which is totally different to alien life which, as Stokie says above, almost certainly exists.

What makes you think they were 'dicking around'? Maybe they were just observing.
What would you expect a waaaaay more advanced alien life form to do if it discovered us?


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Aliens? on 19:03 - Apr 29 with 400 viewsmonytowbray

Aliens? on 18:17 - Apr 29 by jeera

Calm down?

It's the over-use as though it's somehow clever instead of just repetitive and irritating, not to mention incorrect. Bully isn't even of that generation.

I keep seeing it everywhere so it's hardly unique to you. I hate these borrowed terms.

A bit like the overuse of 'triggered'.


Yeah but it was perfectly timed.

Again, calm down. It’s just BANTZ.

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Aliens? on 19:25 - Apr 29 with 395 viewsBrixtonBlue

Aliens? on 18:49 - Apr 29 by sparks

not get caught on shi tty camera gear unless it wanted to make itself known. In which case we would all know.

And not crash in a desert.


Why on earth would an alien even know it got caught on camera gear? Why would they even conceive of 'camera gear'? They might have entirely different senses to us.

And who said anything about crashing in a desert? I assume you're talking about Roswell, which we weren't but anyway, is it not possible that even advanced civilisations still have accidents, particularly when voyaging to the unknown?

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Aliens? on 19:46 - Apr 29 with 392 viewsBrixtonBlue

Aliens? on 17:58 - Apr 29 by Mr_J

I don't necessarily think they were dicking around I was just wondering why a lifeform capable of interstellar travel would come all the way here just to observe us (a relatively primitive species by their standards). Although we cannot comprehend their thinking so I'm just guessing that would take no interest in us the same way we take no interest of ants.

I think if they would wipe us out if they thought we were a threat.

On an unrelated note, something I can't help thinking about lately is the idea that once a lifeform becomes intelligent enough to upload their consciousness into a virtual realm, they can live in eternal bliss and would have no need for a physical body which is cumbersome. Maybe thats my inner nihilist coming out.

But most likely I think that intelligent life that manages to flourish long enough avoiding extinction events, and then becoming capable of travelling interstellar space, is so extremely rare that we will never come into contact with them.


We don't take no interest in ants though. We study all creatures in the animal kingdom. Perfectly reasonable to assume a more intelligent race would check us out but do nothing more. Doesn't make for a great Hollywood movie, but there you go.

If they're a much more advanced race then it's unlikely we'd be seen as a threat, particularly as we don't have the ability for interstellar space travel. There's no reason to think they'd wipe us out any more than we'd have a desire to wipe out arctic penguins.

The fake eternal bliss life vs a real life, with all its inherent problems, has been done quite a bit, but an interesting topic nonetheless. I think I remember a study where most people would still choose the real life, but someone might correct me on that. I think it was that the struggle makes the good stuff more worthwhile. If everything was perfect that in itself would get boring. You need the bad to appreciate the good. Interesting topic though, might start a new thread on it.

Your last point is again a massive assumption. Races might be shooting about all over the place elsewhere in the universe and we're just in some remote outpost. Like Witham.

It might also be that with their technology we are observable from afar, so there's little reason to visit us.

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Aliens? on 20:29 - Apr 29 with 375 viewsNthQldITFC

Aliens? on 12:22 - Apr 29 by TIB

Ex Blink 182 singer atom Delonge had a lot to do with this. His live shows became a bit much with him often ranting about government coverups and aliens before he launched an academy that has been investigating and pressuring governments to be more transparent about “alien” life forms. I think he’s seeing this as his first victory and opening it paves the way for more.

Some of his early work doesn’t sound so silly now...



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