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This is good news 14:52 - May 1 with 12814 viewsStokieBlue

David Icke's page of untruths removed from Facebook:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-david-icke-facebook-

I know some on here might not agree but it's high time that blatant misinformation was taken seriously and dealt with by the social media giants.

SB
[Post edited 1 May 2020 14:54]

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This is good news on 16:40 - May 5 with 853 viewsbluelagos

This is good news on 13:10 - May 5 by Bluesquid

I replied to the following - "You are wasting your time and energy on loons. Conspiracy theorists aren't worth your valuable time imho." and nothing to do with 5G or any other assorted nonsense as you put it but your slippery tactics are pretty obvious here.

Conspiracy minded Liverpool fans were not loons, unworthy of someones valuable time.


I can assure you in all the years I have spent campaigning on Hillsborough neither I nor any of the many fellow campaigners I know, have ever relied on anything produced by David Icke or anyone else who has claimed to be the son of god.

And to be fair, I was labelled a few things, but never a loon. Probably because I never associated with, quoted or defended anyone who believes the royals are lizards.

My last post on the subject on this thread. Far better things to do than get involved in argument with yourself on such utterly ridiculous and bizarre topics.

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This is good news on 16:53 - May 5 with 834 viewsBluesquid

This is good news on 16:37 - May 5 by Mullet

So there is a link to 5G then?

Stop playing the innocent and have some nuts FFS. You went in hard to get a reaction and are now acting all affronted because you're showing yourself up.

Maybe you should read the threads, let alone the evidence slung about in them as well as all the mud. Slippery indeed.


How have i said that there is a link?

My point still stands and is valid, i don't believe that 5G is causing the Corona virus nor do i believe that the world is flat but to blanket judge everyone as loons that believe in conspiracies is just wrong.
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This is good news on 17:05 - May 5 with 823 viewsMullet

This is good news on 16:53 - May 5 by Bluesquid

How have i said that there is a link?

My point still stands and is valid, i don't believe that 5G is causing the Corona virus nor do i believe that the world is flat but to blanket judge everyone as loons that believe in conspiracies is just wrong.


I've already made that clear.

You were only replying to a quote making that link, which you then tried to deny. It's all there.

As I said, maybe you should read threads first, save you get accused of such things if you find it such an affront. Especially when you're happy to dish it out to people in such a calculated and disgusting manner.

Perhaps go and do your own research into that eh?

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This is good news on 17:13 - May 5 with 817 viewsBluesquid

This is good news on 17:05 - May 5 by Mullet

I've already made that clear.

You were only replying to a quote making that link, which you then tried to deny. It's all there.

As I said, maybe you should read threads first, save you get accused of such things if you find it such an affront. Especially when you're happy to dish it out to people in such a calculated and disgusting manner.

Perhaps go and do your own research into that eh?


Ok, a question for you, do you believe that Conspiracy theorists are loons and not worthy of our valuable time?
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This is good news on 17:23 - May 5 with 806 viewsmidastouch

This is good news on 15:15 - May 1 by BlueBadger

It's not just that he's a dangerous liar, he's a vile antisemite as well. He's by no means, a harmless loon.

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/icke-antisemitic-conspiracies-viewed-over-30-


Just out of curiosity, have you done any research into who funds the CCDH?

Follow the money.

Usually whenever I do this, I find at least one road will lead back to certain infamous short seller who has made a habit of bringing countries (including ours!) to their knees.

No prizes for guessing who!

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/george-soros-bank-of-england.asp
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-george-soros-broke-the-bank-of-thailand-2016
https://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2014/03/06/how-george-soros-made-4b-i
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Does the CCDH pass the Bank of Soros NGO sniff test do you know?

It says on their site:

Our Funders

The Center for Countering Digital Hate is a not-for-profit non governmental organisation (NGO) that is funded by philanthropic trusts and members of the public. The trusts that fund us include:

Barrow Cadbury Trust

Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust

Laura Kinsella Foundation

The Pears Foundation

Unbound Philanthropy

Whenever I see the acronym NGO, I know that I'm usually about 2 clicks away at most from finding a funding link to Soros. Is this one any different do you know?
[Post edited 5 May 2020 17:42]

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This is good news on 17:27 - May 5 with 789 viewsSpruceMoose

This is good news on 17:23 - May 5 by midastouch

Just out of curiosity, have you done any research into who funds the CCDH?

Follow the money.

Usually whenever I do this, I find at least one road will lead back to certain infamous short seller who has made a habit of bringing countries (including ours!) to their knees.

No prizes for guessing who!

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/george-soros-bank-of-england.asp
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-george-soros-broke-the-bank-of-thailand-2016
https://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2014/03/06/how-george-soros-made-4b-i
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Does the CCDH pass the Bank of Soros NGO sniff test do you know?

It says on their site:

Our Funders

The Center for Countering Digital Hate is a not-for-profit non governmental organisation (NGO) that is funded by philanthropic trusts and members of the public. The trusts that fund us include:

Barrow Cadbury Trust

Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust

Laura Kinsella Foundation

The Pears Foundation

Unbound Philanthropy

Whenever I see the acronym NGO, I know that I'm usually about 2 clicks away at most from finding a funding link to Soros. Is this one any different do you know?
[Post edited 5 May 2020 17:42]


I'd love to hear your thoughts on Soros some time. I always find it funny how his name gets thrown around so much by some. I knew it wouldn't be long until his name got thrown into the mix here.

It's almost as if the majority of NGO's only exist to combat the hugely damaging work of right wing governments everywhere.
[Post edited 5 May 2020 17:48]

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This is good news on 17:33 - May 5 with 775 viewsmidastouch

This is good news on 17:27 - May 5 by SpruceMoose

I'd love to hear your thoughts on Soros some time. I always find it funny how his name gets thrown around so much by some. I knew it wouldn't be long until his name got thrown into the mix here.

It's almost as if the majority of NGO's only exist to combat the hugely damaging work of right wing governments everywhere.
[Post edited 5 May 2020 17:48]


Aside from any of his murky political ambitions, the thing that most irks me about Soros is how he obtained so much of his fortune (which he is now throwing at NGOs like confetti!) in the first place. It's not what I would say fits comfortably into the "Honest Day's Work For An Honest Day's Pay" bracket (to say the least).

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This is good news on 17:45 - May 5 with 747 viewsSpruceMoose

This is good news on 17:33 - May 5 by midastouch

Aside from any of his murky political ambitions, the thing that most irks me about Soros is how he obtained so much of his fortune (which he is now throwing at NGOs like confetti!) in the first place. It's not what I would say fits comfortably into the "Honest Day's Work For An Honest Day's Pay" bracket (to say the least).


Ok, number 1. Show me some billionaires with his wealth who have made their money altruistically, without exploitation, entirely ethically and with fairness.

Number 2. Ok so there aren't any? Why aren't they all so frequently judged in the same manner as Soros? What could it be... Could it be that the majority of these billionaires, who seem to skate on by without being called out as the bogey man, don't fund things perceived to be left wing? Of course, the ones how aren't Jewish also seem to get an easy time of things too.

Number 3. Show me me how many of these billionaires sink billions of dollars of their own money into advancing human rights, democracy, public health and economic and environmental justice rather than using the money to rig elections, disenfranchise minorities, buy tropical islands and trash the environment.

There's a good reason why Soros is often singled out. The Hungarians and their anti-Soros billboards would probably have a good idea why.
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This is good news on 18:19 - May 5 with 721 viewsmidastouch

This is good news on 17:45 - May 5 by SpruceMoose

Ok, number 1. Show me some billionaires with his wealth who have made their money altruistically, without exploitation, entirely ethically and with fairness.

Number 2. Ok so there aren't any? Why aren't they all so frequently judged in the same manner as Soros? What could it be... Could it be that the majority of these billionaires, who seem to skate on by without being called out as the bogey man, don't fund things perceived to be left wing? Of course, the ones how aren't Jewish also seem to get an easy time of things too.

Number 3. Show me me how many of these billionaires sink billions of dollars of their own money into advancing human rights, democracy, public health and economic and environmental justice rather than using the money to rig elections, disenfranchise minorities, buy tropical islands and trash the environment.

There's a good reason why Soros is often singled out. The Hungarians and their anti-Soros billboards would probably have a good idea why.
[Post edited 5 May 2020 17:51]


Number 1 is a very good point. I think it's a case of the extent of how far he exploited others to make his. There's dirty money and there's even dirtier money! But you make a fair point, it's easy enough to argue there are plenty of other very powerful and wealthy individuals that have been just as ruthless or destructive in making their vast fortunes.
I take it from your robust defence of Soros you are a fan, or is it more that you simply think he's unfairly demonised? Gates is on the end of his own fair share of flack as well now. As is Bezos and Zuckerberg. But I'm hearing the argument that Soros does seem to be public enemy number one of the right. That said, I'm neither left or right.

On a side note, a distinguished Amazon engineer quit recently with a parting shot, as posted here: https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2020/04/29/Leaving-Amazon
I know it's not relevant to this thread, but just made me think of it when I mentioned Bezos above. I found it quite interesting.

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This is good news on 18:25 - May 5 with 711 viewsBluearmy71

This is good news on 13:46 - May 5 by StokieBlue

No need to be abusive.

You've been called out by numerous posters with regards to your posts content and style. You have been shown to be muddling proven theory and unproven hypothesis together with an equal weighting.

Yet you only seem to want to have a go at me. Take a look at your own posting before criticising others.

SB


No need to be condescending, but you were and still continue to be.

I think it better for you not to think of the my needs in this context!

My post wasn't condescending or critical to or of anyone,and yet you proceeded to be both from the off on my post, I think with regard to posting you really should take your own advice!
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This is good news on 18:27 - May 5 with 707 viewsSwansea_Blue

This is good news on 17:23 - May 5 by midastouch

Just out of curiosity, have you done any research into who funds the CCDH?

Follow the money.

Usually whenever I do this, I find at least one road will lead back to certain infamous short seller who has made a habit of bringing countries (including ours!) to their knees.

No prizes for guessing who!

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/george-soros-bank-of-england.asp
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-george-soros-broke-the-bank-of-thailand-2016
https://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2014/03/06/how-george-soros-made-4b-i
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Does the CCDH pass the Bank of Soros NGO sniff test do you know?

It says on their site:

Our Funders

The Center for Countering Digital Hate is a not-for-profit non governmental organisation (NGO) that is funded by philanthropic trusts and members of the public. The trusts that fund us include:

Barrow Cadbury Trust

Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust

Laura Kinsella Foundation

The Pears Foundation

Unbound Philanthropy

Whenever I see the acronym NGO, I know that I'm usually about 2 clicks away at most from finding a funding link to Soros. Is this one any different do you know?
[Post edited 5 May 2020 17:42]


That's not research. That's a few links to some unverifiable opinion pieces on the internet and a YouTube video of similar unverifiable origin. (Speaking from the point of view of having been involved in, or supporting genuine research my whole working life).

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This is good news on 18:30 - May 5 with 701 viewsmidastouch

This is good news on 18:27 - May 5 by Swansea_Blue

That's not research. That's a few links to some unverifiable opinion pieces on the internet and a YouTube video of similar unverifiable origin. (Speaking from the point of view of having been involved in, or supporting genuine research my whole working life).


So George Soros never shorted the Pound then?

And is this sufficient for you?

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/unbound-philanthropy/

Unbound Philanthropy is a New York City-based left-wing donor affinity group that primarily funds groups that support left-of-centre liberal expansionist immigration policies.

Unbound has close ties to George Soros’s Open Society Foundations through the group’s executive director, Taryn Higashi.

https://www.influencewatch.org/about-us/

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This is good news on 18:34 - May 5 with 696 viewsmidastouch

This is good news on 18:27 - May 5 by Swansea_Blue

That's not research. That's a few links to some unverifiable opinion pieces on the internet and a YouTube video of similar unverifiable origin. (Speaking from the point of view of having been involved in, or supporting genuine research my whole working life).


And I have found https://www.investopedia.com an excellent resource for learning about investing and how to read market charts. I would argue it's a credible source.

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This is good news on 18:38 - May 5 with 689 viewsSpruceMoose

This is good news on 18:30 - May 5 by midastouch

So George Soros never shorted the Pound then?

And is this sufficient for you?

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/unbound-philanthropy/

Unbound Philanthropy is a New York City-based left-wing donor affinity group that primarily funds groups that support left-of-centre liberal expansionist immigration policies.

Unbound has close ties to George Soros’s Open Society Foundations through the group’s executive director, Taryn Higashi.

https://www.influencewatch.org/about-us/


And what's your issue here exactly?

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This is good news on 18:40 - May 5 with 686 viewsmidastouch

This is good news on 18:27 - May 5 by Swansea_Blue

That's not research. That's a few links to some unverifiable opinion pieces on the internet and a YouTube video of similar unverifiable origin. (Speaking from the point of view of having been involved in, or supporting genuine research my whole working life).


And did you expect me cite a whole bibliography on an internet football fan forum? Honestly!
What did you expect? A primary source diary entry from George Soros' bedtime diary perhaps? Seriously, you're taking this forum far too seriously!

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This is good news on 18:41 - May 5 with 681 viewsSpruceMoose

This is good news on 18:30 - May 5 by midastouch

So George Soros never shorted the Pound then?

And is this sufficient for you?

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/unbound-philanthropy/

Unbound Philanthropy is a New York City-based left-wing donor affinity group that primarily funds groups that support left-of-centre liberal expansionist immigration policies.

Unbound has close ties to George Soros’s Open Society Foundations through the group’s executive director, Taryn Higashi.

https://www.influencewatch.org/about-us/


Oh look! Influence Watch!

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/influence-watch/

"Influence Watch is owned by the Capital Research Center, which in turn is funded through donations. Some of their top donors are Exxon-Mobil, Koch Industries, and the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation."

"The common theme among all donors is conservative political affiliation and ties to the fossil fuel industry."

I wonder what they might have against leftist NGOs and foundations...

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This is good news on 18:43 - May 5 with 674 viewsmidastouch

This is good news on 18:41 - May 5 by SpruceMoose

Oh look! Influence Watch!

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/influence-watch/

"Influence Watch is owned by the Capital Research Center, which in turn is funded through donations. Some of their top donors are Exxon-Mobil, Koch Industries, and the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation."

"The common theme among all donors is conservative political affiliation and ties to the fossil fuel industry."

I wonder what they might have against leftist NGOs and foundations...


Is that the same Koch brothers who are making a mint out of renewable energy?

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This is good news on 18:51 - May 5 with 657 viewsmidastouch

This is good news on 18:41 - May 5 by SpruceMoose

Oh look! Influence Watch!

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/influence-watch/

"Influence Watch is owned by the Capital Research Center, which in turn is funded through donations. Some of their top donors are Exxon-Mobil, Koch Industries, and the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation."

"The common theme among all donors is conservative political affiliation and ties to the fossil fuel industry."

I wonder what they might have against leftist NGOs and foundations...


So based on that, are you saying Soros doesn't fund (either directly or indirectly) Unbound Philanthropy?

Soros has a habit of donating to internet fact checker sites too. Have you heard about that one?

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This is good news on 18:51 - May 5 with 656 viewsSpruceMoose

This is good news on 18:43 - May 5 by midastouch

Is that the same Koch brothers who are making a mint out of renewable energy?


Is there a particular point you're trying to make?

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This is good news on 18:52 - May 5 with 656 viewsDarth_Koont

This is good news on 18:41 - May 5 by SpruceMoose

Oh look! Influence Watch!

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/influence-watch/

"Influence Watch is owned by the Capital Research Center, which in turn is funded through donations. Some of their top donors are Exxon-Mobil, Koch Industries, and the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation."

"The common theme among all donors is conservative political affiliation and ties to the fossil fuel industry."

I wonder what they might have against leftist NGOs and foundations...


Koch Industries ... might as well be Satan behind this.

Awful, awful people.

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This is good news on 18:57 - May 5 with 650 viewsmidastouch

This is good news on 18:52 - May 5 by Darth_Koont

Koch Industries ... might as well be Satan behind this.

Awful, awful people.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2020/04/21/new-michael-moore-b
Copied from the above:

Solar panels require sixteen times more materials in the form of cement, glass, concrete, and steel than do nuclear plants, and create three hundred times more waste.

The man noted that Koch Industries provide many of the materials used to build solar panels and industrial solar farms. “The funny part is that when you criticize solar plants like this you are accused of working for the Koch brothers,” he laughs. “That’s the idiocy. This relies on the most toxic industrial processes we’ve ever created.”

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This is good news on 19:03 - May 5 with 643 viewsmidastouch

This is good news on 18:51 - May 5 by SpruceMoose

Is there a particular point you're trying to make?


Yes, renewable energy is in bed with the fossil fuel industry!

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This is good news on 19:04 - May 5 with 637 viewsSpruceMoose

This is good news on 19:03 - May 5 by midastouch

Yes, renewable energy is in bed with the fossil fuel industry!


Not a particularly revelatory point though is it?

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This is good news on 19:06 - May 5 with 632 viewsmidastouch

This is good news on 19:04 - May 5 by SpruceMoose

Not a particularly revelatory point though is it?


Agreed.

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This is good news on 19:10 - May 5 with 623 viewsmidastouch

This is good news on 19:04 - May 5 by SpruceMoose

Not a particularly revelatory point though is it?



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