| Stay Alert (n/t) 09:11 - May 10 with 8150 views | itfcjoe |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:45 - May 10 with 1127 views | r2d2 |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:38 - May 10 by NotSure |
I think if all of those people are under 40 then the country would thank me for it. There isn't going to be a permanent vaccine for this, so the young people in this country need to get immunity.
You cannot lockdown for ever. |
You cant lockdown forever. But its generally the under 40s who are the mor0ns and take no notice of anyone, thats when the virus will spike again. As that age group has no regard for anything let alone people. |  | | |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:48 - May 10 with 1116 views | itfcjoe |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:45 - May 10 by r2d2 |
You cant lockdown forever. But its generally the under 40s who are the mor0ns and take no notice of anyone, thats when the virus will spike again. As that age group has no regard for anything let alone people. |
Under 40s is half the population.....
My anecdotal experience amongst adults would say that those mostly flouting it seem to be the 18-25 lot and the over 65s | |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:49 - May 10 with 1114 views | NotSure |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:41 - May 10 by sparks |
More ignorant nonsense.
We dont know if a permanent vaccine is gong to be available.
We DO know that there is a good likelihood that, if a permanent vaccine is not feasible, then such immunity as you would attain from being infected will not be permanent either.
As has been explained to you dozens of times, under 40s are quitecapable of spreading the virus to vulnerable people...
Given that black people are seemingly more vulnerable- would you say your plan should only be for white people under 40? |
Only 200 people under 40 have died in this country from/with Covid-19. So I think BAME people are OK to get out there and continue their lives.
Science has so far never produced a permanent vaccine for rhino or corona viruses. Why, suddenly, are we going to get one by September?
And you are correct, we cannot be sure about immunity. But seeing as this doesn't kill many under 40's it's worth trying it. I and many others are happy to take that risk. |  | | |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:54 - May 10 with 1101 views | sparks |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:49 - May 10 by NotSure |
Only 200 people under 40 have died in this country from/with Covid-19. So I think BAME people are OK to get out there and continue their lives.
Science has so far never produced a permanent vaccine for rhino or corona viruses. Why, suddenly, are we going to get one by September?
And you are correct, we cannot be sure about immunity. But seeing as this doesn't kill many under 40's it's worth trying it. I and many others are happy to take that risk. |
That would not be science based and ignores fundamental stuff we do know- but you know that.
Please stop spreading this ignorant disinformation. Its not funny- too many morons take it on and believe it, even small bits of it. |  |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:56 - May 10 with 1096 views | r2d2 |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:48 - May 10 by itfcjoe |
Under 40s is half the population.....
My anecdotal experience amongst adults would say that those mostly flouting it seem to be the 18-25 lot and the over 65s |
18-25 are under 40s arnt they? The over 65s seem to be really good around my way. They are sticking to lockdown pretty much. | | | |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:57 - May 10 with 1095 views | NewcyBlue |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:49 - May 10 by NotSure |
Only 200 people under 40 have died in this country from/with Covid-19. So I think BAME people are OK to get out there and continue their lives.
Science has so far never produced a permanent vaccine for rhino or corona viruses. Why, suddenly, are we going to get one by September?
And you are correct, we cannot be sure about immunity. But seeing as this doesn't kill many under 40's it's worth trying it. I and many others are happy to take that risk. |
I’m not happy to take that risk.
I’m not happy for you to take that risk either.
My Mrs is pregnant. Pregnant women are included on the vulnerable list. |  |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:12 - May 10 with 1055 views | vapour_trail |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:56 - May 10 by r2d2 |
18-25 are under 40s arnt they? The over 65s seem to be really good around my way. They are sticking to lockdown pretty much. |
I’m with Joe. The oldies seem out in force more than anyone else in my neck of the woods. |  |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:15 - May 10 with 1060 views | NewcyBlue |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:12 - May 10 by vapour_trail |
I’m with Joe. The oldies seem out in force more than anyone else in my neck of the woods. |
Oldies and teenagers up here, from what I have seen on bike rides and trips to the supermarket. | |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:17 - May 10 with 1053 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:57 - May 10 by NewcyBlue |
I’m not happy to take that risk.
I’m not happy for you to take that risk either.
My Mrs is pregnant. Pregnant women are included on the vulnerable list. |
Only the selfish, me me me, brigade are willing to take risk
There are a fair number of those posting on here. [Post edited 10 May 2020 11:26]
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:20 - May 10 with 1044 views | NewcyBlue |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:17 - May 10 by Pinewoodblue |
Only the selfish, me me me, brigade are willing to take risk
There are a fair number of those posting on here. [Post edited 10 May 2020 11:26]
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People taking unnecessary risks are the reason we are in this mess.
People wanting to go back to pubs and clubs will be the reason that pubs and clubs go out of business. Through their own impatience and selfishness. I’ll have not one jot of sympathy. | |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:25 - May 10 with 1033 views | Pinewoodblue |
The problem is twofold. The message is not clear enough and we lack sufficient Police Officers to enforce it.
There is a direct relationship between the firmness of the lockdown in a Country and the number of Police Officers. France and Spain, for example have 50% more Police per Capita than England and Wales. Sweden and Denmark have fewer.
We need a sensible approach but that requires everyone to realise the rules they are expected to follow are for the good of the community as a whole. | |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:28 - May 10 with 1026 views | Ace_High1 |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:20 - May 10 by NewcyBlue |
People taking unnecessary risks are the reason we are in this mess.
People wanting to go back to pubs and clubs will be the reason that pubs and clubs go out of business. Through their own impatience and selfishness. I’ll have not one jot of sympathy. |
If we had a true lockdown (strict like Spain) do people think that we would be in a much better position now?
I do, this is the problem with he public, they are using the Governments label of a lockdown, but the UK has not been a lockdown.
People flouting the rules with no immediate consequences is why the disease continues to spread and we are way behind many other European countries. |  | | |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:28 - May 10 with 1016 views | vapour_trail |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:25 - May 10 by Pinewoodblue |
The problem is twofold. The message is not clear enough and we lack sufficient Police Officers to enforce it.
There is a direct relationship between the firmness of the lockdown in a Country and the number of Police Officers. France and Spain, for example have 50% more Police per Capita than England and Wales. Sweden and Denmark have fewer.
We need a sensible approach but that requires everyone to realise the rules they are expected to follow are for the good of the community as a whole. |
It requires leadership.
And we don’t have that in any real sense. | |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:28 - May 10 with 1019 views | mikeybloo88 |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:33 - May 10 by blueblueburleymcgrew |
Even if you are right, which I don’t think you are btw, the Govt can have a proper conversation with us about how we manage things going forward.
Always predicated on the fact as with South Korea and others we have the ability to reintroduce measure if the situation deteriorates. |
Spot on...if and when the government produce the plan which indicates approximately when certain restrictions will be eased over the coming months, a significant number of people will still not be able to stick to the timings. If the govt says social gatherings of up to 6 people may be able to happen on 15th June depending on the virus status, you can bet a million people will start doing this on the 8th June because, well, a week won't matter. Will that be the governments fault? I'm sure some, if not many, on here will say it is as there does seem a reluctance of some to condone the rank stupidity of their fellow countrymen as it doesn't fit their anti government narrative. |  | | |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:47 - May 10 with 998 views | mikeybloo88 |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:20 - May 10 by NewcyBlue |
People taking unnecessary risks are the reason we are in this mess.
People wanting to go back to pubs and clubs will be the reason that pubs and clubs go out of business. Through their own impatience and selfishness. I’ll have not one jot of sympathy. |
Clubs will be the last to open, well behind pubs, some of which could open safely if managed carefully | | | |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:50 - May 10 with 988 views | vapour_trail |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:28 - May 10 by mikeybloo88 |
Spot on...if and when the government produce the plan which indicates approximately when certain restrictions will be eased over the coming months, a significant number of people will still not be able to stick to the timings. If the govt says social gatherings of up to 6 people may be able to happen on 15th June depending on the virus status, you can bet a million people will start doing this on the 8th June because, well, a week won't matter. Will that be the governments fault? I'm sure some, if not many, on here will say it is as there does seem a reluctance of some to condone the rank stupidity of their fellow countrymen as it doesn't fit their anti government narrative. |
Of course there will be people who behave irresponsibly.
From your final comment, your take on this is that we have good leadership from the government? | |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:54 - May 10 with 976 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 09:58 - May 10 by sparks |
Its a meaningless message. It doesnt give a clear indication of what one is supposed to do.
And when it is juxtaposed with the old crass slogan, it simply gives people emotional permission to stop bothering. They need not stay home anymore- things are back to normal. Lets party. |
I would be happy if the message was “Don’t be a Prat” | |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:57 - May 10 with 967 views | Pecker |
No need to change the slogan. Just tell us what you want us to do and trust that we are adult enough to carry it out. You will always get the idiots, but for the most, we can take clear instructions. |  | | |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 12:01 - May 10 with 961 views | factual_blue |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:38 - May 10 by NotSure |
I think if all of those people are under 40 then the country would thank me for it. There isn't going to be a permanent vaccine for this, so the young people in this country need to get immunity.
You cannot lockdown for ever. |
The first two words of your post aren't something you can say about yourself.
Ever. About anything.
#knownothingblowhard |  |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 12:05 - May 10 with 952 views | DanTheMan |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 10:49 - May 10 by NotSure |
Only 200 people under 40 have died in this country from/with Covid-19. So I think BAME people are OK to get out there and continue their lives.
Science has so far never produced a permanent vaccine for rhino or corona viruses. Why, suddenly, are we going to get one by September?
And you are correct, we cannot be sure about immunity. But seeing as this doesn't kill many under 40's it's worth trying it. I and many others are happy to take that risk. |
"Only 200 people under 40 have died in this country from/with Covid-19"
Yes, with the entire country in lockdown.
"Science has so far never produced a permanent vaccine for rhino or corona viruses. Why, suddenly, are we going to get one by September?"
We don't need a permanent vaccine right now, we need one for the current strains going around. That would be enough. Also trying to create a vaccine for a cold is probably not up their on the priority list given it's almost never fatal. |  |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 12:14 - May 10 with 929 views | jeera |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 12:05 - May 10 by DanTheMan |
"Only 200 people under 40 have died in this country from/with Covid-19"
Yes, with the entire country in lockdown.
"Science has so far never produced a permanent vaccine for rhino or corona viruses. Why, suddenly, are we going to get one by September?"
We don't need a permanent vaccine right now, we need one for the current strains going around. That would be enough. Also trying to create a vaccine for a cold is probably not up their on the priority list given it's almost never fatal. |
His whole take on this has been that he feels he will be safe and is happy for others to catch it; it doesn't affect him it's fine.
There are children in intensive care right now with this kawasaki type symptoms, except where that usually targets the very young, under 5s, this has killed people older too. An otherwise healthy 14 year old last week.
That's, as you say, with the so-called lock-down in place.
Opening schools would be a terrible idea until much more is known. |  |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 12:15 - May 10 with 932 views | Dubtractor |
I just don't understand why there is a need to have a new slogan.
The current one is a bit blunt, but largely does the job
Changing it now just adds more confusion. |  |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 12:17 - May 10 with 915 views | jeera |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 12:15 - May 10 by Dubtractor |
I just don't understand why there is a need to have a new slogan.
The current one is a bit blunt, but largely does the job
Changing it now just adds more confusion. |
As others say, they do like their slogans.
It hides a multitude of sins. | |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 12:17 - May 10 with 917 views | DanTheMan |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 12:15 - May 10 by Dubtractor |
I just don't understand why there is a need to have a new slogan.
The current one is a bit blunt, but largely does the job
Changing it now just adds more confusion. |
I wouldn't mind this bloody slogans if they weren't repeated after every damn question. | |
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| Stay Alert (n/t) on 12:17 - May 10 with 917 views | r2d2 |
| Stay Alert (n/t) on 11:28 - May 10 by Ace_High1 |
If we had a true lockdown (strict like Spain) do people think that we would be in a much better position now?
I do, this is the problem with he public, they are using the Governments label of a lockdown, but the UK has not been a lockdown.
People flouting the rules with no immediate consequences is why the disease continues to spread and we are way behind many other European countries. |
Spot on there. Im with you on this. | | | |
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