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Wow, is this really illegal? on 11:01 - Jun 6 by BrixtonBlue
It's a good point actually. People shout all kinds of obscenities at football matches where there ARE children present. I've never known anyone be arrested for singing "the referee's a w@nker."
People going know they are going to be exposed to it and make a choice. Its not public.
That said, if you ahve been to a lot of football you will be well aware of the occasional flare ups beweten people in the crowd when someone is being particualrly agressive and sweary in a section where there are families.
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett)
Wow, is this really illegal? on 10:56 - Jun 6 by PhilTWTD
This reminded me of the Inspiral Carpets T-shirt so had a look for something about it and think the opening paragraph from this 2014 piece is interesting in the context of this discussion.
Interesting, too, that the F word can be spelled out in full (no asterisks) in a national newspaper. Maybe the editor of the Guardian should be arrested?
Wow, is this really illegal? on 10:44 - Jun 6 by BrixtonBlue
Bit of a different context there though. You'd be going around the touristy bits of a capital city, where lots of different people of all ages would be.
This is a girl who's just left a protest march.
I thought that Regent street would be considered a touristy bit of London. Personally I do not find the t-shirt offensive, but I understand how many people would find it so. I'm sure that parents do not want to have to explain to little Johnny what F**K BORIS means. As a rock/metal fan, I have seen plenty of t-shirts on sale with profanity, and I have no problem with them being worn in the correct environment such as a festival or at a gig. But I have always felt it inappropriate to wear profanity in public. Personally the only thing that has stopped me buying such t-shirts is that there would be self imposed limitations to where I could wear them.
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Wow, is this really illegal? on 11:10 - Jun 6 with 1725 views
Wow, is this really illegal? on 11:03 - Jun 6 by sparks
People going know they are going to be exposed to it and make a choice. Its not public.
That said, if you ahve been to a lot of football you will be well aware of the occasional flare ups beweten people in the crowd when someone is being particualrly agressive and sweary in a section where there are families.
A football stadium isn't public?! That's news to me.
Wow, is this really illegal? on 10:44 - Jun 6 by Ewan_Oozami
There are many other ways to protest using a t-shirt. I'm not offended by swear words personally, but to me, it shows lack of creativity in making the statement - think of the degrees of offensiveness of the following for example: Feck Boris - not sure, cultural appropriation maybe? Screw Boris - acceptable I think Sod Boris - as is this Bu99er Boris - offends most peoples' sensibilities I think Blow Boris - as does this Sack Boris - fine Castrate Boris - also fine Defenestrate Boris - tricky, but possible Disembowel Boris - a bit Horrible Histories.. Bobbitt Boris - gets people thinking, now where do I know that from?
"Bolocks to Boris" would clearly be legal (Sex Pistols test case), get the point across of your views on BJ and also upset Boris supporters.
Wow, is this really illegal? on 11:09 - Jun 6 by FoD_Blue
I thought that Regent street would be considered a touristy bit of London. Personally I do not find the t-shirt offensive, but I understand how many people would find it so. I'm sure that parents do not want to have to explain to little Johnny what F**K BORIS means. As a rock/metal fan, I have seen plenty of t-shirts on sale with profanity, and I have no problem with them being worn in the correct environment such as a festival or at a gig. But I have always felt it inappropriate to wear profanity in public. Personally the only thing that has stopped me buying such t-shirts is that there would be self imposed limitations to where I could wear them.
Regent Street during lockdown where there are no shops and bars open, tourism is on hold, and she's just been part of a protest march.
She's also wearing a jacket over the top. I imagine if she's going somewhere where there are old ladies or children she's probably going to do it up.
Certainly, if I saw her outside a school or in the Darby & Joan club I wouldn't find her t-shirt acceptable.
Wow, is this really illegal? on 11:18 - Jun 6 by FoD_Blue
Although conveniently not on the video, along with the start of the confrontation.
Quite.
The police were not agressive or unpleasant. They may just have made a passing comment to her int he first place, to which she diecided she wanted a lengthy response...
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett)
Wow, is this really illegal? on 11:20 - Jun 6 by sparks
Quite.
The police were not agressive or unpleasant. They may just have made a passing comment to her int he first place, to which she diecided she wanted a lengthy response...
Her phone went off, you can clearly hear it.
It's also clear they were going to arrest her if she didn't comply.
Anyway, I've said my bit, I'm off for a run in my N.W.A t-shirt.
Wow, is this really illegal? on 11:33 - Jun 6 by BrixtonBlue
Her phone went off, you can clearly hear it.
It's also clear they were going to arrest her if she didn't comply.
Anyway, I've said my bit, I'm off for a run in my N.W.A t-shirt.
My phone doesnt stop recording when it rings.
Either way- we dont know. I am highly sceptical that the initial appraoch was anything more than gentle advice / request, or that she was in any danger of arrest- unless she because obnoxious.
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett)
Wow, is this really illegal? on 11:37 - Jun 6 by sparks
My phone doesnt stop recording when it rings.
Either way- we dont know. I am highly sceptical that the initial appraoch was anything more than gentle advice / request, or that she was in any danger of arrest- unless she because obnoxious.
Wow, is this really illegal? on 11:38 - Jun 6 by BrixtonBlue
No, but you stop to answer it...
Not if I am in the middle of a conversation with a policeman who is threatening seriously to arrest me for a trivial offence- and I was sufficiently concerned about the situation to be videoing it...
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett)
Wow, is this really illegal? on 09:36 - Jun 6 by bluelagos
Or someone who is shocked that wearing an offensive t-shirt is deemed a criminal act and/or worthy of police time.
Call me sceptical, but I think the chances of a community Bobby going out of his way to intercept a quiet lass going about her business with a rude T-shirt are slim.
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Wow, is this really illegal? on 11:45 - Jun 6 with 1627 views
Wow, is this really illegal? on 11:41 - Jun 6 by sparks
Not if I am in the middle of a conversation with a policeman who is threatening seriously to arrest me for a trivial offence- and I was sufficiently concerned about the situation to be videoing it...
Wow, is this really illegal? on 11:33 - Jun 6 by BrixtonBlue
Her phone went off, you can clearly hear it.
It's also clear they were going to arrest her if she didn't comply.
Anyway, I've said my bit, I'm off for a run in my N.W.A t-shirt.
I can clearly hear some music, is that her ringtone? It could have been cleverly edited over the video to give here a convenient excuse to end before the part where she says 'Sorry Officer' and zips up her jacket. I neither fully support her or the Police in this video, but there are too many unknowns to be able to make an informed opinion.
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Wow, is this really illegal? on 12:00 - Jun 6 with 1601 views
Wow, is this really illegal? on 11:16 - Jun 6 by BrixtonBlue
Regent Street during lockdown where there are no shops and bars open, tourism is on hold, and she's just been part of a protest march.
She's also wearing a jacket over the top. I imagine if she's going somewhere where there are old ladies or children she's probably going to do it up.
Certainly, if I saw her outside a school or in the Darby & Joan club I wouldn't find her t-shirt acceptable.
Though there may be children at the protest? A couple of forum members have already said they were considering attending with the kids, or their children wanted to go.
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